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Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
17-08-2004, 03:26 PM
as salamu alaykum

i wondered what the forum members thought of organic foods and natural methods of farming. I am quite interested in this topic and the possible harmful effects of GM foods to mankind and the environment. I would recommend the brothers and sisters of the forum to listen to lectures by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf on this topic, specifically one entitled 'Food for Thought'. As well as that, here is a summary of an islamic viewpoint on GM foods, modern farming and environmental damage compiled by someone i know. Essentially, the short essay summarises issues from the sources given at the end of it.

Islam, the Environment and GM Food

The issue of Genetically Modified (GM) Food is one of the most important issues of our age. Our physical and spiritual well-being is being compromised for the sake of big business. These engineered crops are already being grown over millions of acres worldwide and can cross-pollinate with normal varieties. The environment is being mistaken for an experimental playground, a mistake that is creating irreversible damage to the web of life.

We are told that GM is just a precise extension of natural breeding and that these manipulated 'foods' can help solve the world hunger problem. We are told that these 'foods' can help solve nutritional deficiencies, and anyone who gets in the way is accused of scare-mongering, of being 'anti-science' and of condemning millions to starvation...

If we look at the facts, however, we find something quite interesting. The scientific facts tell us that genetic modification disrupts the normal expression of genes, resulting in potentially toxic effects. The facts tell us that many eminent scientists are actually against the release of GM foods into the environment and into the food-chain. The facts tell us that this technology is not being used to solve world hunger, but to increase dependency on multinationals. The facts tell us that the claims pushed forward to justify GM foods are designed to act as a global smoke-screen whilst the technology is used to satisfy an insatiable desire for wealth and power, created out of a lack of identification with higher values.

Importance of Purity of Food in Islam

There are several verses of the Qur’an which state the importance of eating lawful and pure food.

“…Eat and drink of that which Allah has provided, and do not make mischief on the Earth.” [TMQ 2:60]

“O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good in the earth, and follow not the footsteps of the Devil, for he is indeed a declared enemy to you.” [TMQ 2:168]

Ibn Kathir wrote with regards to this verse, “He has allowed them to eat any of the pure lawful things on the earth that do not cause harm to the body or the mind”.

“O you who believe! Eat of the good things which We have provided for you, and be grateful to Allah, if it is He whom you worship.” [TMQ 2:172]

Again, Ibn Kathir said in his tafsir of the above verse, “Allah commands His believing servants to eat from the pure things that He has created for them and to thank Him for it, if they are truly His servants. Eating from pure sources is a cause for the acceptance of supplications and acts of worship, just as eating from impure sources prevents the acceptance of supplications and acts of worship”.

The Arabic word used in this verse is ‘tayyibat’, which is the plural of ‘tayyib’. This has many meanings including pure, good, delicious, healthy, fragrant, lawful and esteemed.

“So eat of the lawful and good things which Allah has provided for you and thank Allah for His favours, if it is He whom you worship.” [TMQ 16:114]

“O messengers! Eat of the good things, and act with righteousness. I know of what you are doing.” [TMQ 23:51]

Abu Hurayrah said that Allah's Messenger said “O people! Allah is Tayyib and only accepts that which is Tayyib. Allah has indeed commanded the believers with what He has commanded the Messengers…” [Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ahmad]

In relation to food, whenever the Qur’an mentions the word halal, which indicates what is permissible, it mentions tayyib immediately after it. What is meant by permissible (halal) and pure (tayyib) is that the food is not simply good to eat but it is a morally sound food, its source was ethically sound.

Until recently, the majority of food was pure at its most primary level by nature because there was very little that people could do to food to contaminate it. With the resources available today, people change the chemical structures of food, and even the genetic makeup.

Respecting the Environment

“The sun and the moon are made to a reckoning. The plants and the trees bow down. And the sky He has uplifted; and He has set the balance. That you do not upset the balance.” [TMQ 55:5-9]

Man has clearly upset the balance, with the problems of pollution, destruction of forests, soil erosion, floods and other ecological catastrophes.

Islam and changing creation

“ ‘And I [the Devil] will surely lead them astray, and arouse desires in them, and command them and they will cut the cattle’s ears, and I will surely command them and they will change Allah’s creation.’…” [TMQ 4:119]

This verse generally refers to changing the creation of Allah from its natural ways, or mutilating them. On the contrary, we are commanded to be kind to animals. This is a far cry from the conditions of modern-day farms and abattoirs. Furthermore, isn’t modern day genetic engineering and manipulation also changing creation?

“…There is no altering Allah’s creation…” [TMQ 30:30]

Ibn Kathir said of this verse, “Some said that this means, ‘do not change the creation of Allah, for if you do, you will divert the people away from the Fitrah with which He created them.’ “.

Sources

http://www.ifees.org/
http://www.islamicgmfocus.org/
‘The Sunnah and Health’ by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf http://www.guidancemedia.com/mpoetry.html?ID=32

UmmIbrahimIsa
17-08-2004, 03:57 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

JazakuAllahkhairun.

it is really good or better to have organic food rather than the chemically pumped up ones, but sometimes its the only alternative you have because some organic foods are not available in your area, or they are way expensive and i think they do that on purpose just to get people to spend more for their health....

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
17-08-2004, 04:03 PM
as salamu alaykum

true... i would say organic is the way forward, especially for Muslims. The major superstores are starting to expand their range of organic goods. However, the small shops and grocery stores that cater for solely organic produce are the best, albeit hard to find.

by the way, if anyone is interested (i am not a promoter/organiser - nor do i know them):

he Islamic Foundation for Ecology & Environmental Sciences (IFEES) invites you to an:

ORGANIC PICNIC IN REGENTS PARK

Date: Saturday 28th August 2004
Time: 1.45pm to 5pm
Venue: Regents Park, London (see below for directions*)

Just bring some organic food to share and come to Regents Park to enjoy a day out with like-minded people. Feel free to invite your friends and family - this event is open to everyone. If you want to support your local food retailer, here is a helpful website: http://www.organicfood.co.uk/shopping/index.html - We look forward to seeing you there.

Contacts:
Muzammal: 0845 456 3960 (local rate)

*Directions: Take the entrance situated behind Regents Park Mosque: the picnic will be on the left hand side in the upper left hand corner of the quadrangle by a clump of trees. Just look out for a bright blue picnic mat. (nearest tube: Baker Street)

UmmIbrahimIsa
17-08-2004, 04:06 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

sounds like a fun event, pehaps someone that goes can organically email me the recipes or food....insha'Allah.

faqir
17-08-2004, 07:09 PM
Organic food is not genetically modified?

I think we need to define genetic modification then....... as far as I am aware man has been genetically modifying foods for hundreds of years!

Sabaah
18-08-2004, 02:05 AM
Organic food is not genetically modified?

I think we need to define genetic modification then....... as far as I am aware man has been genetically modifying foods for hundreds of years!

:salam:

I was just going to say the same thing :)

We learnt about GMO's in one of my bio classes, and genetic modification in food has been occuring naturally within crops for years and years and years (think cross pollinisation). I think what most people refer to to as "GMOs" is when scientists insert some mad weird genes into fruits and vegetables. We discussed it in my halaqah a few months back when we were doing the fiqh of halal and haram. I'm gonna go and dig up those notes....

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
18-08-2004, 10:49 AM
as salamu alaykum

i was not referring to what occurs naturally. i and in particular the above websites are talking of interference from humans in the natural process.

for example, it is a fact that most modern fruit and vegetables are grown with the help of herbicides and pesticides. It is these substances that have unknown effects on the human.

as well as that, many foods are packaged with preservatives and additives, which again have unknown effects... especially in the long-term.

take for example bananas which grow naturally - i have tasted them in India, for starters they are smaller and taste a whole lot different (much better) than the kind sold in supermarkets all over the world - twice the size and less tasty.

GM refers to as the previous person wrote human infiltration of natural species to make them grow bigger, bear more seeds, more resistant to pests - at the end of the day BETTER FOR PROFIT - not health, nor the third world.

Thats why organic food is much better - ask yourselves why most baby foods in the supermarkets are now organic... if we don't feed our babies all this rubbish, why are we feeding it to ourselves?

faqir
18-08-2004, 01:05 PM
Asalamu alaykum Akhi,

Humans have been genetically modifying crops for hundreds of years - this is not really a modern phenemenon - although it is being taken to new and more complicated levels in this recent age.

As for the use of pesticides and organic food - once more those who use organic foods do use pesticides albeit perhaps in some cases a more "organic" variety.

I've not seen any conclusive evidence that "organic" food is more healthy in any way. If you have access to any trials in this regard I would be grateful if you could point me in their way.

JazakAllah khair.

btw, don't get me wrong, I do share some of your concerns.

Wasalam.

faqir
18-08-2004, 01:13 PM
I recall an article in Q-news about Dr. Lutfi Radwan and Ruby Radwan who had given up their city jobs to set up an Organic farm.

Apparently they have had volunteers from an Islamic org. known as IMASE:

http://www.imase.org/water/projects.htm#anchor1

It looks an excellent project.




On a more negative note do read the following:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/05/22/MNGMT6QD0H1.DTL


Wasalam

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
18-08-2004, 06:55 PM
as salamu alaykum

<<I've not seen any conclusive evidence that "organic" food is more healthy in any way. If you have access to any trials in this regard I would be grateful if you could point me in their way.>>

...i think the fact that there are increased number of gastro-intestinal diseases in the modern world and increasing rates of cancers is a clue to the effects of 'modifying' creation to maximise profit. while there is no concrete proof... i would still prefer purer food. like i said, why is it that baby food manufacturers now largely only sell organic products?

faqir
19-08-2004, 07:29 PM
as salamu alaykum

...i think the fact that there are increased number of gastro-intestinal diseases in the modern world and increasing rates of cancers is a clue to the effects of 'modifying' creation to maximise profit. while there is no concrete proof... i would still prefer purer food. like i said, why is it that baby food manufacturers now largely only sell organic products?


:salam:

Akhi I am not saying you should not buy organic food.

The above observation you have made is incorrect. I have seen a link between constipation and GI malignancy but no credible link has been demonstrated between "inorganic" food and malignancy. Furthermore, regarding baby food being organic - I think the manufacturers are playing on parent sensitivities. Once more there is no evidence to suggest that "organic" food is any better than "inorganic" baby food.

Allahu Alim.

Wasalam.

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
20-08-2004, 08:52 AM
as salamu alaykum

i agree with you bro, but perhaps you should listen to 'Food for thought' by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. he touches on this issues in that