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ilm_seeker
21-12-2005, 05:02 PM
As sallamu alaikum

Can any of the Pakistani brothers inform me as to what the level of Hadith rejecting fitna is in Pakistan. I'm asking because I just came across a website by an M.D. who slanders the Ulema and quotes Ahadith which he thinks are immoral, sick, degrading etc.

Wa alaikum as sallam
Muawiyah
22-12-2005, 07:40 PM
outright hadith rejectors are very few, even hadith rejectors in disguise (followers of Ghamidi, Islahi, Imadi etc.) do do not have much of a following.
Zubair
22-12-2005, 09:09 PM
salam

Is ghamadi, javed ahmed ghamidi that comes on ptv?

salam
Muawiyah
22-12-2005, 09:21 PM
yeah the same, denier of the hayat and nuzool of Esa `alyhis'salam, there's a discussion about him on the forum Javed Ahmed Ghamdi (http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/printthread.php?t=4858)
Omar HH
22-12-2005, 09:52 PM
Damn...

I have never seen a Hadith rejector in Syria in my entire life.

:jazak:
ilm_seeker
23-12-2005, 08:58 AM
As sallamu alaikum

Jazak Allah Khair. Have anyone of you heard of Dr. Shabbir Ahmed M.D??? He runs a Hadith rejecting website and slanders the Ulema.

Wa alaikum as sallam
Muawiyah
23-12-2005, 09:33 AM
i did see an article of his on a website, where he falsely claims that Fadhail-e-Aa'mal says do not try to understand the Quran ever or something like that. Never heard of him offline though.
ilm_seeker
23-12-2005, 09:58 AM
i did see an article of his on a website, where he falsely claims that Fadhail-e-Aa'mal says do not try to understand the Quran ever or something like that. Never heard of him offline though.
As sallamu alaikum

Yeah I just skimmed over his website the other day and he was quoting Ahadith which he thought were immoral, sick and disgusting. He also slanders the Ulema-people like Maulana Rumi, Ashraf Thanwi, Haji Imdadullah (Rahmatullahi Alayhum) etc. and calls them "Mullas".

Wa alaikum as sallam
sunflower
23-12-2005, 10:34 AM
assalaamu alaikum
have heard of another group in pakistan called toul-e-islam.They filtered here to the UK and corrupted a lot of peoples mind into denying hadith and following just the literal meaning of the quran and nothing else. The man who founded this group dies about 10 years ago i think but his followers in this countrry still exist and have occasional meetings. Its very difficult to convince these people of hadith.May alllah guide them inshallah.
wasalaam