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Omar HH
02-01-2006, 09:00 AM
:salam:

Shaykh Abu Qanit al-Sharif al-Hassani has a Shadhili muraqabah dars where he says you cannot think that one thing in the dunya is pleasing and if you do you have to manipulate the thought and make it that the dunya is ugly in 1 minute. And you have to do that 500 times. This is not the whole dars so goto http://www.guidinghelper.com/pdf/hikam4web.pdf for more information under the Appendicies.

Now what I was wondering - does this include things in the dunya you are supposed to love such as your wife, your mother, your kids, your brother and sisters, the mosque, prayer, etc.?

Or is this just for stuff such as money, etc.

I am not intending to do the muraqabah without a Shaykh and I am not a murid of the Shadhili tariq - at least yet - but just making things clear.

abdulmatin
05-01-2006, 05:30 AM
Sounds more Naqshbandi to me...kind tough for westerners.
I'm with Shaykh Nuh Keller. His first lesson is to not miss a fard salat for 40 days. this seems more to the point and relevant for those in the west.
Of course, Allah ta'ala has not put everyone's rizq withthe same Shaykh.
Shaykh Nuh recommends praying salatul istikhara when you are thinking of taking a particular Shaykh or traiqa. wa billahi tawfiq...

love4all
05-01-2006, 04:06 PM
salams

does anybody have printouts of the muraqaba durus that shaykh Nuh recommends? I have the first three, but would like copies of the others. I am not shaykh Nuh's murid, but asked him whether a person could do them anyway. He said that they were just about avoiding sin, so were possible for anybody to do.

jazakallah was salam

abdulmatin
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
i was speaking in general terms. there are many branches of the Naqshbandiyya (may Allah preserve our Mushayukh). i meant the spirit and methodology of this particular lesson sounds Naqshabandi. for more on what I'm talking about, read "beads of dew(from the sourse of life)" a collection of spiritual biographies of the ancient, central asian Naqshabandi masters.

Omar HH
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Not missing your prayers is alot easier than this muraqabah - your right - but I was wondering if anyone could answer my question :(

Any Murabitun Shadhilis? Or Ya`qoubi Shadhilis?

abdulmatin
05-01-2006, 09:50 PM
www.tariqatapes.com

laughinglion
05-01-2006, 10:00 PM
:salam:

There is a stage in the process of muraqaba where the faqir should try to avoid anything "other" entering ones thoughts, even that which is halal. That is that one should try to maintain focus on ones dzikr/fikr alone and nullify any other intruding thoughts.

I hope this is sufficient as an answer to your question, I am not a Shaykh.

With Peace

abdulmatin
05-01-2006, 10:01 PM
In the Shadhili Tariqa that I am familiar with, we have shukr for Allah's blessings. We are allowed to enjoy Allah's blessings and appreciate the Divine Beauty and Perfection that is reflected in creation within the bounds of the Shar'a Shareef. That's why many have called it the "tariq al-shukr". I think that this is what you will find with most Shadhili Masters (may Allah preserve them). This is not to downplay the wisdom in the tarbiyya of any murshid.

in regards to your question, it seems as if the shaykh is referring to the entire dunya and everything in it. why can't you clarify with this Shaykh or his students?

p.s. Both Shaykh's Muhammad al-Ya'qoubi and Nuh Keller received 'ijaza from Shaykh 'abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri (may Allah be well pleased with them all).

Omar HH
05-01-2006, 10:22 PM
:salam:

There is a stage in the process of muraqaba where the faqir should try to avoid anything "other" entering ones thoughts, even that which is halal. That is that one should try to maintain focus on ones dzikr/fikr alone and nullify any other intruding thoughts.

I hope this is sufficient as an answer to your question, I am not a Shaykh.

With Peace

What Muraqabah stuff does Shaykh `Abdal Qadir Murabit (hafizahullah) make you guys go through?

Also do you guys have a "tariqa notes" sort of like the one that Shaykh Nuh has?

Do you have a copy of any of your lessons? Don't worry I won't do them! You gotta have a Shaykh to do muraqabah "he who has no Shaykh - Shaytan is his Shaykh."

:jazak:

laughinglion
05-01-2006, 10:23 PM
In the Shadhili Tariqa that I am familiar with, we have shukr for Allah's blessings. We are allowed to enjoy Allah's blessings and appreciate the Divine Beauty and Perfection that is reflected in creation within the bounds of the Shar'a Shareef. That's why many have called it the "tariq al-shukr". I think that this is what you will find with most Shadhili Masters (may Allah preserve them). This is not to downplay the wisdom in the tarbiyya of any murshid.

With us (the fuqara' of Shaykh `Abda'l-Qadir, allah bless and protect him and benefit us by him) shukr is a preceding stage on the path that should be an established constant before muraqaba. Though it can also be said that the whole of the path is Hamd and shukr. The one does not necessaarily negate the other. This is an example that the "statements" relating to this science [tasawwuf] should never be only taken on face value.

With peace

Omar HH
05-01-2006, 10:24 PM
Laughinglion can we have more information about the tariqa (through Shaykh `Abdal Qadir). We keep hearing the Murabitun stuff and the political stuff and the contraversy - but I never have heard about the actual tariqa of the Shaykh?

:jazak:

laughinglion
05-01-2006, 10:46 PM
:salam:

Sidi Omar there are things between the Shaykh and the individual faqir which remain specific to that individuals "issues", desires and abilities. Therefore I feel it may be inappropriate to discuss certain aspects of the tariqa on this forum. If you have general questions I will do my best to answer when able.

I am not conversant with the Tariqatapes of Shaykh Nuh, Allah protect him and benefit us by him, thus have no reverence to address your specific request. There are related articles on aspects of the tariqa on Hajja `A'isha's, Allah protect her and benefit us by her, Home page. There is also the Shaykh's book, "The One Hundred Steps", which, basically, explains principle terms and stages of to the path. The book "Ash-Shifa" by Qadi `Iyad :rahim: is also important in this matter. And a book called the "Meaning of Man" is a book the plumbs the depths of the science. There are others. That said, these are only books and as you have rightly noted, it is best if one has a Shaykh.

There is one other thing of note, there is no sufism without mu`ammalat or there can be no tasawwuf without shari`a.

With Peace

Omar HH
05-01-2006, 10:51 PM
Salam,

Shaykh Nuh's book is basically what the tariqa is and stuff.

Is there any special things banned for murids? Such as newspapers? Magazines? etc.

Where can I get "The One Hundred Steps" book Sidi?

And p.s. where did Shaykh `Abdal Qadir study (not tassawuf but fiqhi sciences, etc.)

:jazak:

laughinglion
05-01-2006, 11:01 PM
:salam:

The One Hundred Steps...http://www.black-stone.net/books/

Pushed for time...you know the deely..

With Peace

Omar HH
05-01-2006, 11:07 PM
And about the Shadhili Tariqa and Shukr - it is a Tariqa Burhani and not a Tariqa Ishraqi.

The Naqshbanadis and Imam al-Ghazali are a Tariqa Ishraqi.

The Shadhilis are concentrating on thanking Allah and the Naqshbandis are doing really hard struggle against bad characteristics and looking for "Fath" or openings.

:jazak:

Shaykh Abu Qanit al-Sharif al-Hassani spoke of this on his online lessons once. Ibn al-Banna's Mahabith descibres more. When it's talking about the Burhani tariq in the Mahabith then know that it is talking about hte Shadhili-type tariqas.

:jazak:

abdulmatin
05-01-2006, 11:18 PM
With Allah as my Witness, I attended the mawlid for Shaykh Abd al-Rahman at zaytuna institute after his passing in 1994 (may Allah have mercy upon him). Shaykh Muhammad was the main speaker. in his beautiful and moving eulogy, he described his deep love and affection for the shaykh, that he received 'ijaza from him inwardly and outwardly, and that he (Shaykh Muhammad) represents the Shadhili Tariqa and invites people to Allah Most High. this was also recorded and in my posession. wa billahi tawfiq.

muhammadnur
05-01-2006, 11:19 PM
Can you confirm Sheikh Yaqubi's ijaza from Sheikh Abdur Rehman? I would much appreciate an answer. :D


As Salaam Alaikum,

This is an excerpt from a lecture Sh. Muhammad Al Yaqoubi gave when Sh. Abdur Rahman died. The whole lecture was available on deenport at one time but I don't see it now. But anyway this excerpt Sh. Muhammad describes about how he received ijaza from Sh Abdur Rahman.

Muhammad-Nur