Alimah course

[Fatima M1]

Assalaamualaykum,

i am hoping to do an aalima course soon inshAllah, many people have told me that its better to do an islamic studies degree because i will get a qualification out of it. if i do do it i want to do it at sheikh saleem dhorats darul uloom inshAllah. (aalima course).

what is actually involved in an aalima course? people have told me that you dont actually learn arabic. i really want to do aalima course because it will help me be a better muslim inshAllah. islamic studies seems to just be too academic.

what my first impression of aalima course was that you learn arabic and are able to translate the quran with tafseer. but people are telling me otherwise.

please advise me, jazakAllah.

[muslim forever]

Salaam,

Yeah i wud also like to know as well. :D


if i do do it i want to do it at sheikh saleem dhorats darul uloom inshAllah. (aalima course).

And where is this place? Is it in England, UK?

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

[Fatima M1]

yes sister its in leicester Alhamdulillah. hes also my sheikh thats why id prefer to go there.

heres the homepage: http://www.idauk.org/

[muslim forever]

Salaam

Sis are there any other madrassa's in Leicester that you know of?

Wasalaam

[Fatima M1]

There are loads for brothers, for sisters i am aware of islamic dawah academy (sheikh saleems) and molana adam patel (mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al kawthari's father) darul uloom, at jame masjid. (these are the ones i am aware of there may be others). may Allah make it easy for you and all of us :)

[muslim forever]

WOW this is like sooo cool. JazakAllah sweet sis!

sis do any of these have websites like the one for sheikh saleem dhorats darul uloom.

and o yeah wud you need to stay in these madrassa or what? :)

jazakAllah

wasalaam

[muslim forever]

salaam

sis is this what you were looking for. im not sure. but according to the link below you do learn arabic.

http://www.idauk.org/acad/jru/jrusyl.html

and also is Aalimiyyah course the same is Alimah course. :confused:

wasalaam :)

[Fatima M1]

Sheikh saleems is the link above ( http://www.idauk.org/ ) we dont have to stay there :) boardings only for brothers. i have the advantage that i live round the corner from the darul uloom, maybe it would be easier for you to do it in b'ham if theres any place there, for the reason that you would have to travel everyday. (this shouldnt put you off though sis, mashAllah the darul uloom's top.

Sheikh Saleem's academy are doing a redevelopment project and all the classes wil be held there in the future inshAllah, it will probably take a few years before its done.

http://www.idauk.org/prjcthm1.html

hope this helps :)

[Fatima M1]

salaam

sis is this what you were looking for. im not sure. but according to the link below you do learn arabic.

http://www.idauk.org/acad/jru/jrusyl.html

and also is Aalimiyyah course the same is Alimah course. :confused:

wasalaam :)

i think the alimiyah course is for brothers, :confused: there syllabus is different to the sisters aalimah course. lets hope we found out soon inshAllah

[salman]

Salamu 'alaykum

If you have a Shaykh its best to consult him regarding your studies....

[Fatima M1]

hes currently gone for Hajj, and hes really busy so understandably he doest reply straight away.

[muslim forever]

Sheikh saleems is the link above ( http://www.idauk.org/ ) we dont have to stay there :) boardings only for brothers. i have the advantage that i live round the corner from the darul uloom, maybe it would be easier for you to do it in b'ham if theres any place there, for the reason that you would have to travel everyday. (this shouldnt put you off though sis, mashAllah the darul uloom's top.

Sheikh Saleem's academy are doing a redevelopment project and all the classes wil be held there in the future inshAllah, it will probably take a few years before its done.

http://www.idauk.org/prjcthm1.html

hope this helps :)



WOW really? its around the corner from where u live. thats great :alhamd: !

Unfortunalty in birmingham there are no madrassa's. :( . but anyway im not really looking for something now but for the future inshallah.

also sis can i just ask what age do u have to be to do this alimah course. does it mattter or wud u not know? :)

[Fatima M1]

As far as i know its 16+ :)

[salman]

hes currently gone for Hajj, and hes really busy so understandably he doest reply straight away.

Salamu 'Alaykum

Then you should definitely wait till he does because the Shaykh is your door to Allah.

Wasalam

[muslim forever]

As far as i know its 16+ :)


salaam

thats excellent :alhamd: jazakAllah sis.

please cud u let us know if u find anything more out inshallah. :)

wasalaam

[Bez]

Assalamu Alaikum Sis..
there are Alimah course available in Birmingham....Extremely good ones too.... ;)

[Bez]

Assalaamualaykum,

i am hoping to do an aalima course soon inshAllah, many people have told me that its better to do an islamic studies degree because i will get a qualification out of it. if i do do it i want to do it at sheikh saleem dhorats darul uloom inshAllah. (aalima course).

what is actually involved in an aalima course? people have told me that you dont actually learn arabic. i really want to do aalima course because it will help me be a better muslim inshAllah. islamic studies seems to just be too academic.

what my first impression of aalima course was that you learn arabic and are able to translate the quran with tafseer. but people are telling me otherwise.

please advise me, jazakAllah.

Assalamu Alaikum sister,

I would sincerely advise you to consider the studying at the darul uloom. Having been in your situation last year...i was being told that i should give up my Alimah course and go for a islamic studies degree at University.
But believe me sister the alimah course is better for u InshaAllah. Uni involves so much fitna and is not the best place for a woman. Whereas at a madrassa u are in the best of environments, with the best of company (The Knowledgeable).
So if u are in the position to do so....study the alimah course. Also about learning Arabic, most likely u will not study a lot of language but u will probably study grammar which will enable you 2 pick up the arabic language more efficiently and also be able to translate quran and Ahadith.
These are classical, islamic sciences that are unrivalled. Whereas an islamic studies degree is usually taught by a non-muslim orientalist, and you are taught what they want u to be taught.
InshaAllah ask your shaykh also.
I hope i have been of some use. :D

[muslim forever]

Assalamu Alaikum sister,

I would sincerely advise you to consider the studying at the darul uloom. Having been in your situation last year...i was being told that i should give up my Alimah course and go for a islamic studies degree at University.
But believe me sister the alimah course is better for u InshaAllah. Uni involves so much fitna and is not the best place for a woman. Whereas at a madrassa u are in the best of environments, with the best of company (The Knowledgeable).
So if u are in the position to do so....study the alimah course. Also about learning Arabic, most likely u will not study a lot of language but u will probably study grammar which will enable you 2 pick up the arabic language more efficiently and also be able to translate quran and Ahadith.
These are classical, islamic sciences that are unrivalled. Whereas an islamic studies degree is usually taught by a non-muslim orientalist, and you are taught what they want u to be taught.
InshaAllah ask your shaykh also.
I hope i have been of some use. :D

salaam

very true sis. i agree with u. thats why i never did the islamic studies degree. also some of my friends say the same as u do.

also according to 2 of my friends the arabic you learn during the islamic studies degree is not quranic arabic.

but Allah knows best.

wasalaam

[muslim forever]

Assalamu Alaikum Sis..
there are Alimah course available in Birmingham....Extremely good ones too.... ;)

Salaam

REALLY!!!! :p

Where does the course take place?

Please tell me more.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

[safwana]

there are alimah courses in leicester to if any 1 would like 2 join the go on this website

www.jameah.co.uk

it is an excellent insitute.

[Fatima M1]

Assalamu Alaikum sister,

I would sincerely advise you to consider the studying at the darul uloom. Having been in your situation last year...i was being told that i should give up my Alimah course and go for a islamic studies degree at University.
But believe me sister the alimah course is better for u InshaAllah. Uni involves so much fitna and is not the best place for a woman. Whereas at a madrassa u are in the best of environments, with the best of company (The Knowledgeable).
So if u are in the position to do so....study the alimah course. Also about learning Arabic, most likely u will not study a lot of language but u will probably study grammar which will enable you 2 pick up the arabic language more efficiently and also be able to translate quran and Ahadith.
These are classical, islamic sciences that are unrivalled. Whereas an islamic studies degree is usually taught by a non-muslim orientalist, and you are taught what they want u to be taught.
InshaAllah ask your shaykh also.
I hope i have been of some use. :D


JazakAllah for your advice, i did think that aalimah course is better spiritually, but it was the fact that the islamic studies degree gains u a qualification which can help you in employment (teaching etc) that had me confused but i realise from what u said that the aalimah course is better for you. i did have another question though, inshaAllah im hoping to get married v. soon, is the Aalimah course very difficult, in terms of balancing a married life and children (am hoping to start a family soon aswell). And, im worried about the financial implication that obviously ill leave my full time job to study aalimah course, but thats my weakness i guess, as i know everything comes from Allah SWT and that financial worries should not keep me away from learning deen InshaAllah. Any advise would be most appreciated. JazakAllah

[Fatima M1]

Salamu 'Alaykum

Then you should definitely wait till he does because the Shaykh is your door to Allah.

Wasalam

InshAllah

[bintashraf]

I think that doing an alimah course is a better alternative for a woman than obtaining a degree from a uni. Because a madrasa offers much more than just the studies, if you're boarding then you'll have the priceless oppurtunity to live in an Islamic mahole (environment) for the duration of your studies from which you would benefit greatly both academically and spiritually.
There is a full time Islamic school in Bradford, UK which offers alimah courses and secular education also, such as GCSE's and such. I'm not sure if they have a website though.

[Bint Mas`ood]

Salam,

Would obtaining an islamic education degree be the same as obtaining one from a madressa? Would you have the same authourity to answer questions and stuff, if your teachers are different? In unis, the professors tend to be non-muslims right?

[Live for Islam]

JazakAllah for your advice, i did think that aalimah course is better spiritually, but it was the fact that the islamic studies degree gains u a qualification which can help you in employment (teaching etc) that had me confused but i realise from what u said that the aalimah course is better for you. i did have another question though, inshaAllah im hoping to get married v. soon, is the Aalimah course very difficult, in terms of balancing a married life and children (am hoping to start a family soon aswell). And, im worried about the financial implication that obviously ill leave my full time job to study aalimah course, but thats my weakness i guess, as i know everything comes from Allah SWT and that financial worries should not keep me away from learning deen InshaAllah. Any advise would be most appreciated. JazakAllah

The IDA Alimah class runs only for a couple of hours a day. 5 days a week, times : 8:45-12:45pm. Cost: £500-650 per year. It's a 5 year course (well depending on whether you have prior study of Islam, Arabic, Urdu etc, you may be able to start straight into the 2nd year... )

Where were you planning on taking a degree in Islamic Studies? Which institute?

[muslim forever]

Salam,

In unis, the professors tend to be non-muslims right?

Salaam

I don’t know about anywhere else but I think at Birmingham uni (UK) most of the lecturers for the Islamic studies degree are non-Muslim. There is only one who is a Muslim.

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

The IDA Alimah class runs only for a couple of hours a day. 5 days a week, times : 8:45-12:45pm. Cost: £500-650. It's a 5 year course (well depending on whether you have prior study of Islam, Arabic, Urdu etc, you may be able to start straight into the 2nd year... )

Where were you planning on taking a degree in Islamic Studies? Which institute?

Salaam

So does this mean that if i was to study arabic, urdu, tajweed and fiqh now i could go staright into the second year later on when i do the alimah course?

And also in order to go straight into the second year would i need a certificate to show them that i know my urdu. cos my mom is gonna teach me it i.e. i am not going to go to any classes for urdu but only arabic.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

[Live for Islam]

Salaam

So does this mean that if i was to study arabic, urdu, tajweed and fiqh now i could go staright into the second year later on when i do the alimah course?

And also in order to go straight into the second year would i need a certificate to show them that i know my urdu. cos my mom is gonna teach me it i.e. i am not going to go to any classes for urdu but only arabic.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

It depends on the madrassah and the individual. You'll probably have to sit an exam or interview first.

With regards to Birmingham Uni, I heard the Islamic Studies degree they offer there is pretty good. I think one of the lecturers there is Maulana Ashraf Makadam... masha-Allah, a brilliant teacher.

[muslim forever]

salaam


It depends on the madrassah and the individual. You'll probably have to sit an exam or interview first. .

your joking- i hate interviews but nevermind.


With regards to Birmingham Uni, I heard the Islamic Studies degree they offer there is pretty good. I think one of the lecturers there is Maulana Ashraf Makadam... masha-Allah, a brilliant teacher.

really... i have never known of a Maulana teaching at bham uni. but anyways thats good.

wasalaam

[Live for Islam]

really... i have never known of a Maulana teaching at bham uni. but anyways thats good.

wasalaam

Maulana Dr. Ashraf completed the Alimiyyah course in Darul Uloom Bury. He's also got MA and PhD degrees in Islamic Studies. He lectured at Birmingham Uni for a number of years... not sure if he still does. He was also my teacher of Tafseer in Islamic Studies in college, Leicester.

Btw, check this out: http://www.theology.bham.ac.uk/undergrad/islamic/

[eTeacher]

The IDA Alimah class runs only for a couple of hours a day. 5 days a week, times : 8:45-12:45pm. Cost: £500-650. It's a 5 year course (well depending on whether you have prior study of Islam, Arabic, Urdu etc, you may be able to start straight into the 2nd year... )

Where were you planning on taking a degree in Islamic Studies? Which institute?

Cost: £500-650

Is the above cost on a monthly basis?

Sincerley,
Nazim Mangera
www.alimahprogram.org

[Live for Islam]

Cost: £500-650

Is the above cost on a monthly basis?

Yearly. £500-£650 a year.

[muslim forever]

Maulana Dr. Ashraf completed the Alimiyyah course in Darul Uloom Bury. He's also got MA and PhD degrees in Islamic Studies. He lectured at Birmingham Uni for a number of years... not sure if he still does. He was also my teacher of Tafseer in Islamic Studies in college, Leicester.

Btw, check this out: http://www.theology.bham.ac.uk/undergrad/islamic/

Salaam

Unfortunately, I don't think the Maulana teaches there anymore.

Wasalaam

[Bez]

Salaam

REALLY!!!! :p

Where does the course take place?

Please tell me more.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

There is a Scholar course that is open to brothers and sisters (segregated). It takes place at KANZ-UL-HUDA in the Sparkhill area of b'ham. (108 Newton Road, off the Stratford rd))
The times are 5:15-7:15 every weekday.
Subjects studied include:
Arabic Grammar (Sarf & Nahw-Syntax & etymology)
Tajweed
Hanafi Fiqh
Aqidah
Hadith
and much more....

The course is taught by Shaykh Saqib Iqbal Shami.

Join A.S.AP sisters....dont hesistate or delay!

The times are convenient especially for those who work or have family commitments.
InshaAllah i pray for you sucess in studying the deen.

[Bez]

JazakAllah for your advice, i did think that aalimah course is better spiritually, but it was the fact that the islamic studies degree gains u a qualification which can help you in employment (teaching etc) that had me confused but i realise from what u said that the aalimah course is better for you. i did have another question though, inshaAllah im hoping to get married v. soon, is the Aalimah course very difficult, in terms of balancing a married life and children (am hoping to start a family soon aswell). And, im worried about the financial implication that obviously ill leave my full time job to study aalimah course, but thats my weakness i guess, as i know everything comes from Allah SWT and that financial worries should not keep me away from learning deen InshaAllah. Any advise would be most appreciated. JazakAllah

Salam sister,
look into the KANZ-UL-HUDA alimah course that i mentioned in the earlier post.
The times are convenient for all. Many brothers nad sisters study as well as being at work or uni etc.

If any1 needs anymore information, let me knw i'll get hold of a number for you 2 get in contact with the madarassa.

[muslim forever]

There is a Scholar course that is open to brothers and sisters (segregated). It takes place at KANZ-UL-HUDA in the Sparkhill area of b'ham. (108 Newton Road, off the Stratford rd))
The times are 5:15-7:15 every weekday.
Subjects studied include:
Arabic Grammar (Sarf & Nahw-Syntax & etymology)
Tajweed
Hanafi Fiqh
Aqidah
Hadith
and much more....

The course is taught by Shaykh Saqib Iqbal Shami.

Join A.S.AP sisters....dont hesistate or delay!

The times are convenient especially for those who work or have family commitments.
InshaAllah i pray for you sucess in studying the deen.

Salaam

JazakAllah sweet sis. :p I really wanna go there and I’m seriously interested. Therefore please provide us with some contacts.

Btw how long is the alimah course? Is it for 5-6yr long? Also how much does it cost?

Also could you please tell me a bit about Shaykh Saqib Iqbal Shami e.g. where did he study and etc..

JazakAllah sis. I truly appreciate it.

Wasalaam

[Live for Islam]

Btw, Islamic Dawah Academy (http://www.idauk.org) (Leicester, UK) also offer an intensive Alimah course of three years for the sisters.

[safwana]

Salaam



Wow -3yrs that must be well intensive. I wish I could do it but unfortunately I don't live in Leicester, but never mind. JazakAllah for letting us know.

Wasalaam

the course is nt the full three years bt it will 1ce the girls move forward.

[Bez]

Salaam

JazakAllah sweet sis. :p I really wanna go there and I’m seriously interested. Therefore please provide us with some contacts.

Btw how long is the alimah course? Is it for 5-6yr long? Also how much does it cost?

Also could you please tell me a bit about Shaykh Saqib Iqbal Shami e.g. where did he study and etc..

JazakAllah sis. I truly appreciate it.

Wasalaam

The contact numbers are 07870598850/ 07791061793
Or better still just go along in the weekdays 5-7pm.
The teacher has studied in various institutes in Syria, England and Pakistan and is highly recommended by many.
I knw many sisters enrolled in the course and the feedback is more than positive.

Inshallah may Allah bless you in 'Ilm sister.

wasalaam

[Misty_Water]

Asalaam Alaikum

I've heard Kanz-ul-Huda is does a good islamic studies course, i know one of the sisters who goes there.

Kanz also has a Sunday class too for sisters only. Between 1pm til 4pm. The first hour they teach us tajweed, the second hour is for fiqh (currently we are going through the fiqh of taharah) and the last hour there is a general talk, usually something tazkiyah related (taken from Imam al Ghazali's book 'Ihya ulm ud deen').

It's at the same address: 108 Newton Road (off Stoney Lane), Sparkhill

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

Salaam


Asalaam Alaikum

I've heard Kanz-ul-Huda is does a good islamic studies course, i know one of the sisters who goes there.

Kanz also has a Sunday class too for sisters only. Between 1pm til 4pm. The first hour they teach us tajweed, the second hour is for fiqh (currently we are going through the fiqh of taharah) and the last hour there is a general talk, usually something tazkiyah related (taken from Imam al Ghazali's book 'Ihya ulm ud deen').

It's at the same address: 108 Newton Road (off Stoney Lane), Sparkhill

Wasalaam



The contact numbers are 07870598850/ 07791061793
Or better still just go along in the weekdays 5-7pm.
The teacher has studied in various institutes in Syria, England and Pakistan and is highly recommended by many.
I knw many sisters enrolled in the course and the feedback is more than positive.

Inshallah may Allah bless you in 'Ilm sister.

wasalaam

Salaam

JazakAllah sisters. I'll see what i can do inshallah.

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

Asalaam Alaikum

I've heard Kanz-ul-Huda is does a good islamic studies course, i know one of the sisters who goes there.

Kanz also has a Sunday class too for sisters only. Between 1pm til 4pm. The first hour they teach us tajweed, the second hour is for fiqh (currently we are going through the fiqh of taharah) and the last hour there is a general talk, usually something tazkiyah related (taken from Imam al Ghazali's book 'Ihya ulm ud deen').

It's at the same address: 108 Newton Road (off Stoney Lane), Sparkhill

Wasalaam


The contact numbers are 07870598850/ 07791061793
Or better still just go along in the weekdays 5-7pm.
The teacher has studied in various institutes in Syria, England and Pakistan and is highly recommended by many.
I knw many sisters enrolled in the course and the feedback is more than positive.

Inshallah may Allah bless you in 'Ilm sister.

wasalaam




Salaam Sister Misty_Water and Sister Bez

Hope u r doin well inshallah.

I’ve been trying to contact Kanz-ul-Huda for sometime now and I can't seem to get through. Is it possible for you to give me another contact number if there is one?

I would go to the place but I live quite far from Sparkhill unfortunately.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

Salaam Sister Misty_Water and Sister Bez

Seeing as I can't get through (the mobile appears to be turned off every time I ring) is possible for you to answer some questions regarding the courses offered at the Kanz-ul-Huda.

I would very much appreciate if you could answer the following questions inshallah:

1) How long is the Alimah course?

2) How much does it cost?

3) What other courses do they offer there and how long are they?

4) And are there any courses for brothers as well?

5) When would the new classes start for the alimah course?

Inshallah if you know the answers to these quetsions please try to get back to me Inshallah.

JazakAllah

Wasalaam

[Misty_Water]

Asalaam Alaikum sister,

InshaAllah i'll try to get the contact number of a sister who holds one of the kanz sessions for you. I don't know much about the kanz-ul-huda classes, as i only attend the sunday class which is held my a couple of sisters who are students of the Shaykh. However i do know there are definately courses for brothers as well. InshaAllah sis, I'll try and get more info for you soon!

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

salaam sis

JazakAllah for your reply.

Sis i am also interested in the sunday class... i wanted to know if it is for free? and how soon can i start i.e. when do you think the new classes are gonna start? Is there a contact number for the sunday class which you could pass onto me if possible.


InshaAllah i'll try to get the contact number of a sister who holds one of the kanz sessions for you.

And jazakAllah for considering to get another contact number. i really really appreciate it. :)

Wasalaam

[muslim forever]

Asalaam Alaikum sister,

InshaAllah i'll try to get the contact number of a sister who holds one of the kanz sessions for you. I don't know much about the kanz-ul-huda classes, as i only attend the sunday class which is held my a couple of sisters who are students of the Shaykh. However i do know there are definately courses for brothers as well. InshaAllah sis, I'll try and get more info for you soon!

Wasalaam


Salaam Misty_Water

Just wondering have u found a contact yet? :) Its ok if u havn't. Please find it in your own time inshallah.

And Sister is it possible for a moderator to pass on your e-mail address onto me?

Wasalaam

[Misty_Water]

Wasalaam sis,

Yes i have the contact number, and inshaAllah it'll be good if the moderators passed my e-mail address to you, that way i'll be able to pass on the contact number too inshaAllah. However, recently sis, the sunday classes have been down, but inshaAllah if you talk to this other sister, she might be able to direct you appropriately as she is a student of the Shaykh.

I apologise for taking time to reply back

[muslim forever]

Salaam

Don't worry about apologising sis. Its ok. :)

Inshallah i'll speak to one of the mods now. JazakAllah sis.

Wasalaam