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Mukarram
06-03-2006, 09:59 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,

I wanted to ask about this book.
Who authored it and are the contents of the book reliable?

Jazakallah khair

mospike
07-03-2006, 08:08 AM
I did a search on google about the book

lets just say that the results werent in line with sunni aqeeda

IlyasLahoz
07-03-2006, 09:06 AM
From Shaykh Gibril Haddad's biographical sketch on al-Khatib al-Baghdadi- Rahimahullah, the author of Tarikh Baghdad:
http://www.abc.se/~m9783/o/khtb_e.html
-Emphasis is mine and is directed at the "problems" that some people have with al-Khatib's book.

* Tarikh Baghdad ("History of Baghdad"), his most important work. Ostensibly a history of Baghdad, it is more specifically a reference work in narrator-authentication (`ilm al-rijāl) and a valuable compendium of 4,385 hadiths narrated with their full chains, over half of them (2,253) not found in the two books of Sahih and the four Sunan.46 In this respect al-Khatib's rank as an independent narrator is comparable to that of al-Bayhaqi (d. 458), Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 463), and Ibn `Asakir (d. 571).

Concerning al-Khatib's authentication method in Tarikh Baghdad, al-Sam`ani narrated that he said: "Whenever in the Tarikh I mention a man concerning whom opinions vary in commendation and discreditation, then the preferred position concerning him is placed at the conclusion of his biographical notice."

Makki ibn `Abd al-Salam al-Maqdisi said: "I was sleeping in the house of Shaykh Abu al-Hasan al-Za`farani when I saw in a dream, shortly before dawn, as if we had gathered in al-Khatib's house to read the Tarikh as usual. To his right was the jurist, Shaykh Nasr al-Maqdisi, and to the latter's right was a man I did not know. So I asked who he was and was told: 'This is the Messenger of Allah who came to hear the Tarikh.' I thought to myself: 'This is a huge honor for Shaykh Abu Bakr, that the Prophet himself should attend his gathering.' I also thought: 'This is also a refutation of those who blemished the Tarikh saying that it contains undue criticism of certain people.'"

It remains true that the Tarikh contains undue criticism of Imam Abu Hanifa - Allah be well-pleased with him - in the form of an assemblage of glaringly weak and forged reports from known liars, although it also contains authentic reports to the Imam's praise. Among the scholars who refuted the negative reports were the king al-Malik al-Mu`azzam `Isa al-Ayyubi, the Hanafis Sibt Ibn al-Jawzi in the two-volume al-Intisar li Imam A'imma al-Amsar and al-Kawthari in Ta'nib al-Khatib `ala Ma Saqahu fi Tarjimati Abi Hanifata Min al-Akadhib and its follow-up al-Tarhib bi Naqd al-Ta'nib; the Maliki Ibn `Abd al-Barr with al-Intiqa'; the Shafi`is al-Suyuti and al-Haytami respectively with Tabyid al-Sahifa and al-Khayrat al-Hisan, and the Hanbali Ibn al-Jawzi with al-Sahm al-Musib fi al-Radd `ala al-Khatib.47 Al-Dhahabi said: "Would that al-Khatib had not set upon the great figures nor narrated anything against them."48 However, a case has been made to exonerate al-Khatib from having included these reports in his Tarikh, and some scholars, such as Dr. `Itr and Dr. Mahmud al-Tahhan, consider them later interpolations.49

Mukarram
07-03-2006, 09:10 AM
Jazakallah akhi!

Exactly what i was looking for.
May Allah reward you in this life and the next.

Wsalaam wr wb

Faqeeh An-Nafs
07-03-2006, 08:15 PM
An answer to the criticism has been writen by our late great hanafi scholar Imam Zahid al-kawthari in his book
T'neeb al-khateeb binftra 'alaa Abi Hanifat Min al-Akazdeeb.

تأنيب الخطيب بما افترى على أبي حنيفة من اللأكاذيب

Husain
09-03-2006, 07:05 PM
A really beneficial study on the Tarikh of Khatib and every connected to it can be found at the beginning of Tarikh madinah as-Salam (ie. Tarikh Baghad) of the copy editted by Shaikh Bashar ma'roof.

Mansy
10-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Assalamualakum everyone, a detailed study of khatib and his works has been done by Dr. Yusuf Esche called al-khatib al-baghdadi mu'arrikh baghdad wa muhaddithuhu.

Dr. Yusuf Esche has edited many manuscripts of khatib including his taqyidul ilm.

wassalam

faqir
26-03-2006, 10:57 PM
An answer to the criticism has been writen by our late great hanafi scholar Imam Zahid al-kawthari in his book
T'neeb al-khateeb binftra 'alaa Abi Hanifat Min al-Akazdeeb.

تأنيب الخطيب بما افترى على أبي حنيفة من اللأكاذيب

:salam:

Is this available on line bro?

Faqeeh An-Nafs
05-04-2006, 02:15 PM
:salam:

Is this available on line bro?

I don't know.

kazim512
25-08-2011, 11:43 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,

I wanted to ask about this book.
Who authored it and are the contents of the book reliable?

Jazakallah khair

Asslam-o-Alakum,
Brother this book is written by "Ahmad Bin Tahir Khateeb Baghdadi"
Thanks,
Kazim