Whats up with the spelling?

[al-Hanbali]

Why do some people spell it Shadhili, while others spell it Shadhuli?

[Travelleress]

Shaykh Nuh spells its Shadhili

[Omar HH]

Some people say Shazili and Shaykh Ninowy spells it Shathili

lol

[al-Hanbali]

Yeah, but Shazili and Shathili are variations in transliteration, but Shadhuli is with a completely different harakah..

another question that i have been wondering aobut, what is the actual difference between the Shadhili branches such as the:
Darqawiyah
Alawiyah Darqawiyah
Dasuqiyah
Badawiyah
Jazuliyah
and so on?

how did this occour and what does it mean?

[Shaykhs-Pir Sahib]

Yeah, but Shazili and Shathili are variations in transliteration, but Shadhuli is with a completely different harakah..

another question that i have been wondering aobut, what is the actual difference between the Shadhili branches such as the:
Darqawiyah
Alawiyah Darqawiyah
Dasuqiyah
Badawiyah
Jazuliyah
and so on?

how did this occour and what does it mean?

i know of a shadhili bro who specifically says shadhuli also - i will contact him and let you know inshallah.

[Omar HH]

another question that i have been wondering aobut, what is the actual difference between the Shadhili branches such as the:
Darqawiyah
Alawiyah Darqawiyah
Dasuqiyah
Badawiyah
Jazuliyah
and so on?

Yeah there are differences.

The `Alawiyyah are a subgroup of the Darqawis

The Dasuqis have a different chain.

There are differences but not much.

[Shaykhs-Pir Sahib]

sidi omar

can you verify this:

there were only 4 main schools of tasawwuf or tariqah:

chishti, naqshbandi, qadiri and suhawardi

every other tariqa is a branch from the above - including shadhilli which is from the qadiri path.

[al-Hanbali]

Yeah, I heard Shaykh Abu Jafar al Hanbali say the same thing.

[muhammadnur]

Yeah, but Shazili and Shathili are variations in transliteration, but Shadhuli is with a completely different harakah..

another question that i have been wondering aobut, what is the actual difference between the Shadhili branches such as the:
Darqawiyah
Alawiyah Darqawiyah
Dasuqiyah
Badawiyah
Jazuliyah
and so on?

how did this occour and what does it mean?

Salaam,

I think the names come from 2 things. After meeting Maulana Ibn Mashish, Shaikh Abu Hasan was told to settle in the town of Shadhilia. And its from there he stated calling people to Allah. So he got the title ash-Shadhili. One day he asked Allah why He gave him the name Shadhili when he's not from Shadhilia and Allah told him "O `Ali, you are ash-Shadhdhuli with a tashdid on the dhal, meaning one who is set apart (shadhdhu-li) for Me."

So I think that's why the difference in spelling. Which connection to the town it would be Shadhili and with connection to the meaning it would be Shadhuli. Allahu Alim.

As far as differences in branches. From what I know when a tariqa branches off and takes the name of a shaikh its for one or two reasons, of course there are probably more, but one of them is the sheer popularity of the Shaikh. He would have so many students that the tariqa just begins to bare his name. The second reason which may coincide with the first is that the Shaikh changes something in the tarbiyah that wasn't found before him. For instance, Shaikh al-Alawi introduced the khalwa as its done now, but Shaikh ad-Darqawi didn't have the khalwa. So though Shaikh al-Alawi is from the silsila of Sh. ad-Darqawi his tariqa is now different.
Allahu Alim

Muhammad-Nur

[muhammadnur]

sidi omar

can you verify this:

there were only 4 main schools of tasawwuf or tariqah:

chishti, naqshbandi, qadiri and suhawardi

every other tariqa is a branch from the above - including shadhilli which is from the qadiri path.

salaam,

I think technically that's true since most tariqas at some point trace back through Sh Abdul Qadir Jilani. So from that stand point I could see that as being valid.

Muhammad-Nur