Info about Pir Rehmat Karim Sahib

[Murid of the path]

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim

As salam alaikum

Could anyone could help with this info? Who is exactly Pir Rehmat Karim of Pakistan, qadiri shaykh?

In yanabi forum he is the one mentioned as the qadiri shaykh who made two khalwats and after the first one, said that almost all signs of the coming of Imam Mahdi (as) have been acomplished, and after the second khalwa he said that in the following two years the middle east war would spread to the world and that right now Imam Mahdi (as) is out of his cave and also Dajjal is free of his chains. I am refering to a previous post of Tazkiyah.

Pir Rehmat Karim is, as said in that forum, the source of these claims.

But does anyone knows who he is? Or how could someone contact his people?

Salams


Nureddin

[hiker]

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim

Could anyone could help with this info? Who is exactly Pir Rehmat Karim of Pakistan, qadiri shaykh?

Pir Rehmat Karim is, as said in that forum, the source of these claims.

But does anyone knows who he is? Or how could someone contact his people?



I don't know who this guy is, but he has a very similar name to me - freaking me out :eek:

[loveProphet]

I don't know who this guy is, but he has a very similar name to me - freaking me out :eek:
Never heard of him LOL. Sorry can't help.

[OneLife]

:salam:

WHen people go into these states and come back with this info, and then NOTHING happens, why don't people criticize their comments? I know we should respect the Ulema, but sometimes this gets ridiculous.

:ws:

[Tazkiyah]

Shaykh Pir Rehmat is a qadiri chisti shaykh from nwfp in pakistan. I know one of his murids from Norway. Murid of the path.. who is your murshid?

[Aamir]

Brother murid you mentioned "imam mehdi has come out of his cave" - isnt taht shia teachings??? correct me if im wrong

[Murid of the path]

As salam alaikum Tazkiyah

My Shaykh is Shaykh Abdul Karim Effendi, of the Osmanli Naksibendi Dergah of New York. He is one of the deputies fo Shaykh Mawlana in US.

Salams


Nureddin

[Murid of the path]

As salam alaikum


Brother murid you mentioned "imam mehdi has come out of his cave" - isnt taht shia teachings??? correct me if im wrong

The shia teaching is the mayor occultation more than 1,000 years ago in a cave. This is not what the case. Sayyidina Mahdi (as), as taught by Mawlana Shaykh Nazim, was born some decades ago in Medina, and after his childhood he was lead to a cave for being protected until the time of his public appearance.

[OneLife]

As salam alaikum



The shia teaching is the mayor occultation more than 1,000 years ago in a cave. This is not what the case. Sayyidina Mahdi (as), as taught by Mawlana Shaykh Nazim, was born some decades ago in Medina, and after his childhood he was lead to a cave for being protected until the time of his public appearance.

...and how does he know this for certain to the extent that we publicize the information?

[Tazkiyah]

As salam alaikum Tazkiyah

My Shaykh is Shaykh Abdul Karim Effendi, of the Osmanli Naksibendi Dergah of New York. He is one of the deputies fo Shaykh Mawlana in US.

Salams


Nureddin

Mashallah Brother Nuredin. Please give my regards to Shaykh Abdul Karim for me. I been planning to come down to the khanqah in new york for sometime. Build your relationship with Mawlana through the muraqabah you can ask Shaykh Abdul Karim how and stick to your daily awrad. The more you do .. the more you will benefit. As for how we know Mawlana has contact with Imam Mahdi alayhi salam.. there is no need to prove anything to anyone .. just put it this way .. some murids have seen him physically..spirtually.. no need to exlain any further. :p

[OneLife]

I hold a high opinion of people of Tasawwuf (Shariah compliant type), but sometimes I just don't know with claims such as these. .. just dont know.... :confused:

[Tazkiyah]

I hold a high opinion of people of Tasawwuf (Shariah compliant type), but sometimes I just don't know with claims such as these. .. just dont know.... :confused:


In tasawwuf experiances are not written in books the salik has to experiance it. I used to be the exact same way .. look back on some of my posts. As for shariah compliant... if you are refering to Mawlana Shaykh Nazim not being.. all one has to do is visit him in Lefke, Cyprus. Issues such as Mawlid..Istigatha (Ya Ali Madad or Ya Sayidi Madad) etc .. there is difference of opinion among the ulema on the subjects. Feel free to research.

[Abu 'Abdillah al-Maliki]

Subhanallah, I have said it before and I'll say it again... the Mahdi will not know that he is the Mahdi until after he has appeared and been given the bay'ah by force and the Sufyani's army is swallowed up between Makkah and al-Madinah, all of this is mentioned in the ahadith and confirmed by many leading scholars who wrote about this, yet still there are some people who will just believe every claimant to "knowing the Mahdi" or "seeing the Mahdi" or "meeting with the Mahdi", without any proof except "just believe him because he's the greatest of the awliya' of this time" or whatever. Look, if there are so many who have met him or communicated with him, how is it that they know that he's the Mahdi, and yet this "Mahdi" doesn't know that he's the Mahdi?????????

[Abu 'Abdillah al-Maliki]

In tasawwuf experiances are not written in books the salik has to experiance it. I used to be the exact same way ..

Before I became a Muslim, I noticed that many kuffar people who follow fraudsters and charlatans like Sai Baba, Rajneesh, Meher Baba and all of these other mushrik fakesters said exactly the kind of things that you say about your shaykh as reasons for their particular belief in him. They also witnessed remarkable "miracles" from these characters similar or identical to those claimed at the hands of your shaykh. That doesn't make them right also, does it?

[Travelleress]

Asalamu 'alaykum,

Someone I know described it as being the same way that some people recognised that our Habib Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasallam was to be a Prophet.

I'm not talking of those people who claim to have met the Mahdi. But just those 'Ulema (and there are some) who claim to have seen him and know him through this way...

Wasalam

[Abu 'Abdillah al-Maliki]

Asalamu 'alaykum,

Someone I know described it as being the same way that some people recognised that our Habib Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasallam was to be a Prophet.

Maybe, Allahu a'lam... however this would be a very long and involved topic if we wanted to go deeper into it, and would most likely lead to the thread being closed somewhere along the way, so again perhaps we will just have to agree to disagree on this one :(

[Murid of the path]

As salam alaikum


Subhanallah, I have said it before and I'll say it again... the Mahdi will not know that he is the Mahdi until after he has appeared and been given the bay'ah by force and the Sufyani's army is swallowed up between Makkah and al-Madinah, all of this is mentioned in the ahadith and confirmed by many leading scholars who wrote about this

The ahadith do not say that he does not know his condition until those occurences. Just to mention someone, Shaykh Abu Qanit Hassani Husseini, a traditional maliki scholar with ten years of traditional study of Islam, with ijaza to teach in three madhhabds, with memorization of the whole recitations of Quran, and with knowledge of even the rules and teachings ofthe more than ten madhhabds that existed in the first centuries and that did not survive after that, he explained that Imam Mahdi will receive in one night the order to act, and due to his spiritual humility and fear of Allah, he will fell very reluctant due to the enormous worldwide consecuences of his mission and the many extremely heavy fightings that will happen, and so the 313 people that will give bayat to him, among them the 40 abdal, the elite of the elite of awliya, will pressure him to act in accordance to the order, wich he will finally accept. Shaykh Abu Qanit expressly said that all of that doesnot mean that the Imam does not know who he really is.

A bit of knowledge may make us think that we know more than what we really know. But upon every man there is one with more knowledge.

That is why just external knowledge without tasawwuf, as Imam Malik said, is a dangerous path, as well as tasawwuf without knowledge of Sharia.

There is an enormous, really enormous difference between a scholar with a nafs just as everyone of us, and a scholar who has gone through the steps of marifatullah, has acquired the state of fanafillah, has gone beyond and has entered into the stage of baqabillah. This last scholar is in the Divine Presence, he is witness of the oceans upon oceans of the tajallis of the Divine Atributes, endless oceans of Divine Power, Divie Knowledge, Divine Mercy, Divine Justice, and he is a witness that no matter what our external senses may tell us, the whole billions of acts and occurences in the realm of Creation in the whole centuries and milleniums of the processes of Creation are nothing but just the single and unique Act of Allah. He sees it with the secret of his ruh, he sees it and tastes it and is witness of this enormous and unthinkable truth.

One of this last scholars, the scholars that are also masters of tasawwuf (and there are different degrees of perfection among these masters too), one of the most brilliant, Shaykh al Akbar Ibn Arabi, said that Imam Mahdi will be an unparalleled wali, of enormous station, such a great wali that he will have a knowledge of Deen higher than the four Imams, because he wil receive knowledge of Islam directly from Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and the Imam will have to subdue the external scholars, with the threat of use of force, because the external scholars will oppose him. Masha-Allah. Those scholars that suppoedly know those ahadith about him.

It is known that Shaykh Abdalqadir al Jilani, qs, one of the fountain heads of tasawwuf, was born with the inner eyes opened. So that when Ramadan came, even while he was a baby he fasted! Why would it be impossible then to conceive that the enormous wali Imam Muhammad al Mahdi will have no knowledge of himself? The abdal, who will serve him, will have a knowledge of him that he himself, master of the abdal, will not have?

The great awliya of the past have described spiritual experiences with the malaika, with previous awliya, with even previous prophets, in their opening to some realms of the Unseen. May it not be posible that the great awliya of this time, as we know that they exist in every generation, are not seeing something tremendous coming from the Heavens to the earth?

Miracles do not prove nothing. But if some man of tawba and taqwa, a muslim sunni scholar of Islam, a man that lives the sunna, that strives his whole life for spreading Islam, a man that attracts thousands to Islam (how many do we attract to Islam?), if that man shows some extraordinary things, it is impossible and blind and even offensive to put him ever in the same category of those deviant and kuffar people that have also shown extraordinary things.

A miracle that is a proof of Islam, such as the miracle granted to Sayyidina Musa, as, in front ofthe magicians, is absolutedly something different than an uusual fact made by other people.

I do not want to speak about any specific personality of the Ummah. Not about this or that Shaykh. I am not seeking to bring the proof for this or that. Absolutedly arrogant I would be if I ever think that I can *proof* a great wali. Indeed I refuse to speak about this or that wali of this time, defending and arguing about him (just in cae omeone woudl like to tart that old debate).

Simple but many little indications of their lights are spread everywhere in the Internet for he who is seeking with piritual necesity a living Master. Believe me, thoe indication are on the web, I do not need to add nothing to them as I myself found them.

But now I am just ponting out some things that may bring about a greater picture, the huge and enormous picture of Islam and the real servants of Allah as it comes through the hand of people such as Shaykh Abdelqadir al Jilani, Shaykh Abdulaziz Dabbagh, Shah Bahauddin Naqshband, Shaykh al Akbar Ibn Arabi, Imam Ahmad Faruqi as Sirhindi or Imam Ahmad Rida Khan, just to mention a very few of them.

Looking seriously and with the heart to that greater picture, so a strange picture certainly for this XX and XXI centuries, alhamdulillah, times of so shorted and de-spiritualized visions of life, makes much more easy to come to the current great awliya of our time and to scape the traps of our pride and our nafs, recognizing humbly that there are others who are real knowers, while we are not.

As salam alaikum


Nureddin

[Abu 'Abdillah al-Maliki]

Brother, with all due respect to great personalities like Ibn al-'Arabi, he did write in some of his books things that he may have regarded as inspirations from Allah related to cosmology which are today demonstrably mistaken, and also he mentioned predictions of future events, giving dates as well if I'm not mistaken, that did not come to pass. So that doesn't mean that he is infallible or unquestionable in everything that he said.


Imam Mahdi will receive in one night the order to act, and due to his spiritual humility and fear of Allah, he will fell very reluctant due to the enormous worldwide consecuences of his mission and the many extremely heavy fightings that will happen, and so the 313 people that will give bayat to him, among them the 40 abdal, the elite of the elite of awliya, will pressure him to act in accordance to the order, wich he will finally accept.

And before that night, will he know that he's the Mahdi? And what is the proof that this particular night will occur before all of the other events that you mentioned, rather than during them or after them? And why is it that according to the ahadith, he will expressly deny that he is the Mahdi when the bay'ah is offered to him?

Everything else you have written in this quote I agree with and accept whole-heartedly.


The abdal, who will serve him, will have a knowledge of him that he himself, master of the abdal, will not have?

Maybe, why not? They are all human, not omniscient.

[Taalibu-Allaah Ta`aalaa]

Assalaamu`alaykum warahmatullaahi wabarakaatuh

One would find it very interesting indeed if one was to ask Nuh Keller about Abu Qanit.

Wassalaam

[godilali]

Assalaamu`alaykum warahmatullaahi wabarakaatuh

One would find it very interesting indeed if one was to ask Nuh Keller about Abu Qanit.

Wassalaam

elaborate please