Is it makruh to always read the same surah in salat?

[Flora]

:salam:

Is it makruh to always read the same surah in salat - eg surah ikhlaas?

Are we recommended to read different surahs as well as Ikhlaas?

[jaylen]

if you're going to read surat al-iklhas always in salat then recite another surat after it. there was a sahabi that did this and it was permissible. the Rasoul ASW said that the love for this surah to this sahabi was the reason why he entered jannah. So yes you may recite it in salat always but if you do so then recite another surat after it.

[Flora]

:jazak:

If I may ask, how do others do it - which surahs do you read and when? How often do you read surah Ikhlaas?

[jaylen]

sis, you can read whichever surah you like during salat. but if you choose to recite surat ikhlas in every rakat you may do so + an additional surah after it. there is no specified surat for any rakat. it's up to the you or the imam in salat.

[majhul]

I've heard an alim say:

It is makruh tanzihi to read the same surah in both the rahahs of a "fard" salat
It is "not" makruh to read the same surah in all the rakahs of "sunnah and nafl salat.

[jaylen]

The Rasoul ASW said that Surat-al-ikhlass is permissible to read in every salat. either fard or sunnah, etc.

[Flora]

Ok, so it isn't sinful but we should avoid it if we can.

Can I ask which surahs people read for 4 fard rakats - two same and two different - or maybe all four different? Perhaps one can read each of the four Quls.

Also, I once heard that we should read Surah al-Kauthar (the 3 verse surah) in one of our two Fajr rakats - anyone else heard this?

Sorry for asking so much, but one last question inshallah, does the order matter? For example, if you read a surah that occurs later in the Quran first, and then read one that occurs before it in the Quran.

[jaylen]

sis read whatever you want there isn't a set standard. it's not like read this or that...recite what you want.

it's not makruh to recite surat al-ikhlas in every rakat as long as one additional surah is recited afterwards. it was made permissible by the Rasoul ASW,

don't make this hard when it's easier than you think

[Flora]

don't make this hard when it's easier than you think

True...

Alright then, jazakallah khair for the answers.

[majhul]

The ulema say:

It is makruh tahrimi (prohibitively disliked and sinful) to recite surahs without the order in which they appear in the Qur'an.

In the second rakah, you will always have to recite a surah that comes "after" the surah you recited in the first rakah.

However, the above mentioned rule is for 2 consecutive "sets" of rakahs. If you are reading a 4 rakah sunnah, you have to follow the order in the first "set" of rakahs 1 and 2, and the second "set" of rakahs 3 and 4.

For example, you may recite Surah Asr and Surah Kawthar in the first 2 rakahs, and then Surah Duha and Surah Nashra in the 3rd and 4th rakahs. Meaning you may change the order "after" the 2nd rakah, but you have to stick to the order for the 3rd and 4th rakahs.

Hope you understand...

[jaylen]

The ulema say:

It is makruh tahrimi (prohibitively disliked and sinful) to recite surahs without the order in which they appear in the Qur'an.

In the second rakah, you will always have to recite a surah that comes "after" the surah you recited in the first rakah.

However, the above mentioned rule is for 2 consecutive "sets" of rakahs. If you are reading a 4 rakah sunnah, you have to follow the order in the first "set" of rakahs 1 and 2, and the second "set" of rakahs 3 and 4.

For example, you may recite Surah Asr and Surah Kawthar in the first 2 rakahs, and then Surah Duha and Surah Nashra in the 3rd and 4th rakahs. Meaning you may change the order "after" the 2nd rakah, but you have to stick to the order for the 3rd and 4th rakahs.

Hope you understand...

this doesn't click. do you have proof in sunnah for this?

[majhul]

I heard this from a Hanafi mufti from Pakistan. I'm a muqallid and its not my job to go hunting for proofs.

[Pr1nce]

:salam:

Is it makruh to always read the same surah in salat - eg surah ikhlaas?

Are we recommended to read different surahs as well as Ikhlaas?

Wa Alaykum Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

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[Yusuf]

Wa Alaykum Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

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Makruh tanzihan.

[MRahman]

Ok, so it isn't sinful but we should avoid it if we can.

Can I ask which surahs people read for 4 fard rakats - two same and two different - or maybe all four different? Perhaps one can read each of the four Quls.

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salaam, in the fard salah only in the first 2 rakaat surahs are recited, like 2 rakaats of fajr and first 2 rakaat of maghrib. The latter to rakaats only surah fatiha is read.

Regarding which surahs to read, in mukhtasar al quduri (famous hanafi text) it states that one has the choice to read what he wants (any surah). But needs to keep it in order i.e. after surah fil, should read quraish, and if he wants to leave out any surahs in between, a minimum of 2 surahs should be left out in between.

Allah knows best!!!!!

[jaylen]

salaam, in the fard salah only in the first 2 rakaat surahs are recited, like 2 rakaats of fajr and first 2 rakaat of maghrib. The latter to rakaats only surah fatiha is read.

Regarding which surahs to read, in mukhtasar al quduri (famous hanafi text) it states that one has the choice to read what he wants (any surah). But needs to keep it in order i.e. after surah fil, should read quraish, and if he wants to leave out any surahs in between, a minimum of 2 surahs should be left out in between.

Allah knows best!!!!!


really? subhana Allah no one ever told me that. so if someone doesn't do this does it invalidate their salat? see I'm still learning quran because I didn't learn it when I was young. I'm limited to like 7 memorized surahs..so bad..ya Allah help me memorize more but get my point. I'm also not sure what the order is exactly..but I can memorize that as well..ya Allah the things people don't tell you.

[Flora]

Hope you understand...
Perfectly. Thanks a lot.


salaam, in the fard salah only in the first 2 rakaat surahs are recited, like 2 rakaats of fajr and first 2 rakaat of maghrib. The latter to rakaats only surah fatiha is read.
I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.

Jazakallah khair everyone for your replies.

[layman]

really? subhana Allah no one ever told me that. so if someone doesn't do this does it invalidate their salat? see I'm still learning quran because I didn't learn it when I was young. I'm limited to like 7 memorized surahs..so bad..ya Allah help me memorize more but get my point. I'm also not sure what the order is exactly..but I can memorize that as well..ya Allah the things people don't tell you.


sister as your not hanafi the answers of what is and what is not makruh in salaat will differ for you. Learn about salaat according to your madhab, it will be alot easier.

[jaylen]

sister as your not hanafi the answers of what is and what is not makruh in salaat will differ for you. Learn about salaat according to your madhab, it will be alot easier.


yea but it's still interesting because Allahu Alim if it's the better way or not.

[MRahman]

really? subhana Allah no one ever told me that. so if someone doesn't do this does it invalidate their salat? see I'm still learning quran because I didn't learn it when I was young. I'm limited to like 7 memorized surahs..so bad..ya Allah help me memorize more but get my point. I'm also not sure what the order is exactly..but I can memorize that as well..ya Allah the things people don't tell you.

salaam, since you are limited with the surahs memorized, it is best if you read one surah after another in order. It will not invalidate your salah if you don't, it is makruh in the hanafi madhab if you do not keep the order.

Also, as the brother said, you should follow the fiqh of your madhab, this is the best way, even though you may think you want to know what is best, the best for you will be to follow your madhab, or else you can fall into the trap of following different rulings from different madhabs, thus could lead to one following his desires, this is where one deviates from the ahlus sunnah position.

Allah knows best!!!

[Flora]

One other thing, if you are reciting from a longer surah, what is the minimum amount you have to recite?


ya Allah the things people don't tell you
I sometimes feel like that as well, but alhamdulillah, I can learn from here and SunniPath.

[MRahman]

One other thing, if you are reciting from a longer surah, what is the minimum amount you have to recite?


In the hanafi madhab it is waajib to recite atleast 3 short verses (like surah ikhlaas) or one long ayat like ayatul kursi.

Allah Knows Best!!!

[Flora]

In the hanafi madhab it is waajib to recite atleast 3 short verses (like surah ikhlaas) or one long ayat like ayatul kursi.

Allah Knows Best!!!

:jazak:

I never thought of reciting Ayatul-Kursi.

[MRahman]

:jazak:

I never thought of reciting Ayatul-Kursi.

بارك الله فيه

[MRahman]

any verses of the quran may be read, if you have memorised the end of surah baqarah (known as 'lillahi') you can also read that.

[Flora]

However, the above mentioned rule is for 2 consecutive "sets" of rakahs. If you are reading a 4 rakah sunnah, you have to follow the order in the first "set" of rakahs 1 and 2, and the second "set" of rakahs 3 and 4.

Does this apply when you're reading 3 rakats as well - so that the third rakat does not have to follow the order of the previous two?

And thanks again.

[MRahman]

Does this apply when you're reading 3 rakats as well - so that the third rakat does not have to follow the order of the previous two?


The general opinion in the hanafi madhab is that you keep to the orders of the surahs in each salah, and 4 rakaat salat is considered to be one without differentitation between first and second two.

Regarding your question, when praying three rakaats, which is done either in maghrib or witr. In maghrib only first 2 rakaat you will recite a surah, and in witr all of the rakaat you will recite surah, in the witr case it is best to read the sunnah surahs which are; sabbi hisma, then qul yaa ayyu hal kaafiroon, and the qul hu walaahu ahad, respectively.

Allah knows best!!!!

[majhul]

Does this apply when you're reading 3 rakats as well - so that the third rakat does not have to follow the order of the previous two?

And thanks again.
I don't know. However, this would only be applicable to witr, and I guess you should just take care to recite surahs in order.

[br_syed]

Does this apply when you're reading 3 rakats as well - so that the third rakat does not have to follow the order of the previous two?

And thanks again.

Assalamulaikum

I don't know your background Sister but the following page might be useful:
http://islamic-download.com/pc/software/quran/

If not, there is plenty of excellent advice given from Brothers and Sisters here.

Walaikum salaam

[majhul]

One should also take care to recite a shorter surah in the second rakah than in the first rakah. Doing otherwise is makruh tanzihan.

[br_syed]

One should also take care to recite a shorter surah in the second rakah than in the first rakah. Doing otherwise is makruh tanzihan.

Assalamulaikum

Jazakallah Khair for that.

Walaikum salaam

[Flora]

Jazakallah khair.. I learnt much new here

[violentvinny]

Related in Bukhari, on the authority of Hadrat Anas. He says: "A man from among the Ansar led the Prayers in the Quba Mosque. His practice was that in every rak`ah he first recited this Surah and then would join another Surah to it. The people objected to it and said to him:"Don't you think that Surah Ikhlas is by itself enough? Why do you join another Surah to it? You should either recite only this surah, or should leave it and recite some other Surah. He said: "I cannot leave it, I would rather give up leadership in the Prayer, if you so desired."The people did not approve that another man be appointed leader instead of him. At last, the matter was brought before the Holy Prophet. He asked the man, "What prevents you from conceding what your companions desire? What makes you recite this particular Surah in every rak`ah?"The man replied: "I have great love for it."The Holy Prophet remarked: "Your this love for this Surah has earned you entry into Paradise."

[loveProphet]

:salam:

Is it makruh to always read the same surah in salat - eg surah ikhlaas?

Are we recommended to read different surahs as well as Ikhlaas?
Assalam-o-Alaikum,
SPOT on. In the Hanafi Fiqh, it is makruh to recite the same verses in the same Salaah.