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Mossy
05-10-2004, 12:30 PM
To keep this concise..

The base position amongst the madhabs appears to be that a woman cannot talk to a ghayr mahram without need.

Does performing dawah/conveying Islamic education constitute need.

For example, a sister preaching the good to her male relatives. Or a sister teaching a male student via direct contact.

If the answer is no, how did the great female scholars of years gone by convey ijazas upon their male students and learn themselves. Always in the presence of a mahram?

UmmIbrahimIsa
05-10-2004, 03:42 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

I was told that women can talk to non mahram men for a couple of reasons
1) teaching, learning purposes
2) work, business related purposes.

So by this, you can teach ppl about islam, as well as learn from each other, she can be a teacher or be the student.
She can also do business with them.

Examples are the Companions (RA) the women, and the Prophet SAW's wives. Khadija (RA) was a business woman, she dealt with non mahram on a daily basis. Then the other wives such as Ayesha (RA) and Hafsa (RA) would teach the other Companions (RA) about islam.

Just that we have to mind our manners, watch ourselves meaning follow in surah nur 24:30-31, and lower our gaze and protect ourselves by covering up properly and getting to the point of what you want to say and not letting yourself get into chit chat idle talk.

Allahu Alim

A D I D A S
06-10-2004, 01:31 PM
To keep this concise..

The base position amongst the madhabs appears to be that a woman cannot talk to a ghayr mahram without need.

Does performing dawah/conveying Islamic education constitute need.

For example, a sister preaching the good to her male relatives. Or a sister teaching a male student via direct contact.

If the answer is no, how did the great female scholars of years gone by convey ijazas upon their male students and learn themselves. Always in the presence of a mahram?
Read about hadhrat aisha that could help.

Mossy
06-10-2004, 07:48 PM
Hadrat Aisha often taught from behind a veil and via intemediaries as opposed to directly associating with and teaching males.

UmmIbrahimIsa
06-10-2004, 08:23 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

ayesha (RA) was still able to teach them behind the veil or screen, so education or learning shouldnt be provoked or stopped for women. as its their right to learn or teach...
Allahu Alim

Mossy
06-10-2004, 08:26 PM
Ah, but is it permitted to do so not via intemediaries/directly to the male(s)? A sister asked this on Islamica and wondered whether there were any fatwas to this effect - ie this is a legitimate cause for gender interaction (I assumed it was due to the female scholars of the past giving ijazas to their male students).

UmmIbrahimIsa
06-10-2004, 08:27 PM
Assalamu alaikum wr wb

Allahu Alim.
Good to ask a qualified scholar though that could explain it in details or something. insha'Allah.
you can ask SP about it.... or I could check within that insha'Allah.

Mossy
06-10-2004, 08:39 PM
I haven't seen anything with regards to this there - they don't seem to be very favourable of females going out to work unless they're in dire need, but I'd imagine scholarship is a non-gender specific calling..