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leo28
01-11-2006, 07:58 AM
I used to look at veiled women as quiet, oppressed creatures -- until I was captured by the Taliban. In September 2001, just 15 days after the terrorist attacks on the United States, I snuck into Afghanistan, clad in a head-to-toe blue burqa, intending to write a newspaper account of life under the repressive regime. Instead, I was discovered, arrested and detained for 10 days. I spat and swore at my captors; they called me a "bad" woman but let me go after I promised to read the Koran and study Islam. (Frankly, I'm not sure who was happier when I was freed -- they or I.)

Back home in London, I kept my word about studying Islam -- and was amazed by what I discovered. I'd been expecting Koran chapters on how to beat your wife and oppress your daughters; instead, I found passages promoting the liberation of women. Two-and-a-half years after my capture, I converted to Islam, provoking a mixture of astonishment, disappointment and encouragement among friends and relatives.

Now, it is with disgust and dismay that I watch here in Britain as former foreign secretary Jack Straw describes the Muslim nikab -- a face veil that reveals only the eyes -- as an unwelcome barrier to integration, with Prime Minister Tony Blair, writer Salman Rushdie and even Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi leaping to his defense.


Having been on both sides of the veil, I can tell you that most Western male politicians and journalists who lament the oppression of women in the Islamic world have no idea what they are talking about. They go on about veils, child brides, honor killings and forced marriages, and they wrongly blame Islam for all this -- their arrogance surpassed only by their ignorance.

These cultural issues and customs have nothing to do with Islam. A careful reading of the Koran shows that just about everything that Western feminists fought for in the 1970s was available to Muslim women 1,400 years ago. Women in Islam are considered equal to men in spirituality, education and worth, and a woman's gift for childbirth and child-rearing is regarded as a positive attribute.

When Islam offers women so much, why are Western men so obsessed with Muslim women's attire? Even British government ministers Gordon Brown and John Reid have made disparaging remarks about the nikab -- and they hail from across the Scottish border, where men wear skirts.

When I converted to Islam and began wearing a headscarf, the repercussions were enormous. All I did was cover my head and hair -- but I instantly became a second-class citizen. I knew I'd hear from the odd Islamophobe, but I didn't expect so much open hostility from strangers. Cabs passed me by at night, their "for hire" lights glowing. One cabbie, after dropping off a white passenger right in front of me, glared at me when I rapped on his window, then drove off. Another said, "Don't leave a bomb in the back seat" and asked, "Where's bin Laden hiding?"

Yes, it is a religious obligation for Muslim women to dress modestly, but the majority of Muslim women I know like wearing the hijab, which leaves the face uncovered, though a few prefer the nikab. It is a personal statement: My dress tells you that I am a Muslim and that I expect to be treated respectfully, much as a Wall Street banker would say that a business suit defines him as an executive to be taken seriously. And, especially among converts to the faith like me, the attention of men who confront women with inappropriate, leering behavior is not tolerable.

Under Islam, I am respected. It tells me that I have a right to an education and that it is my duty to seek out knowledge, regardless of whether I am single or married. Nowhere in the framework of Islam are we told that women must wash, clean or cook for men. As for how Muslim men are allowed to beat their wives -- it's simply not true. Critics of Islam will quote random Koranic verses or hadith, but usually out of context. If a man does raise a finger against his wife, he is not allowed to leave a mark on her body, which is the Koran's way of saying, "Don't beat your wife, stupid."

But it is also true that in the West, men still believe that they are superior to women, despite protests to the contrary. They still receive better pay for equal work -- whether in the mailroom or the boardroom -- and women are still treated as sexualized commodities whose power and influence flow directly from their appearance.

And for those who are still trying to claim that Islam oppresses women, recall this 1992 statement from the Rev. Pat Robertson, offering his views on empowered women: Feminism is a "socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft and destroy capitalism".

Now you tell me who is civilized and who is not.


By Yvonne Ridley


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...av=most_emailed

amaara_muslimah
10-11-2006, 10:30 PM
I was wondering as i was reading it...it sounds like yvonne ridley but im sure it was by a brother...my bad. Jazakallah....proves every veiled one'spoint.

VeiledOne
22-11-2006, 04:41 AM
:mash: she is a really good writer. May Allah reward her for her efforts..ameen

talemul_haq
23-11-2006, 05:32 AM
As'salaam Wa'alikum,


that's interesting, i thought i heard something about thsi same women talking ill of the taliban men when the abuse in Iraq was made public...?


Wa'alikum As'salaam.

*noor
24-11-2006, 04:54 PM
Wow! subhanaAllah

It's sad how the proof for women's rights in Islam is clear in the Quran yet some ignorant individuals try to make it appear as if we are opressed and treated with no respect.

superman101
11-12-2006, 01:10 AM
Well, I will never come to love the veil. I'll tell you why.
The veil is based on the idea that men are sexual animals who can't control themselves. Well, it doesn't matter if they can or not. The bottom line is that men shouldn't have to control themselves.
The women should cover themselves up completely to make sure that men aren't attracted to them, because if men are, then they have a right to have sex with you. If you are raped, it's your fault, women.
Women have sexual desires too, why do they have to control themselves? why can't men cover themselves up too?
Now, of course, there are many excuses. One of them being that it's impossible for men to get raped.
But that doesn't change the fact that the whole veil thing is unfair.
It limits the ability of women to be a part of society. It becomes difficult for them to go out and do something.
There is a difference between dressing modestly and covering yourself up completely. I respect women who are modest. Everyone does.
But for women to cover themselves up completely?????? that's ridiculous.
Our faces are important to us by nature. It's our way of indentifying who everyone is. If God intended for every woman's face to be covered, they'd all look the same, wouldn't they?

And most muslim women don't cover their faces. And I could go into how religion forces people to feel GUILTY so that they follow blindly ("original sin" is a great way). But I won't right now.
Most religious muslim women just cover their heads. Now I don't get what the big deal with hair is. Why do women have to cover their HAIR?
And wearing a scarf doesn't make you modest! the way you act is more important than the way you dress. If you act like a slut, no amount of black fabric will make you look modest! believe me, I know.
And the veil or headscarf hasn't been proven to be effective against sexual assaults.
In fact, 9 women get raped in Pakistan every DAY. And you need 4 witnesses (!!) to convict the accused, or the woman get prosecuted for adultery! That's a little bit of shariah law for you. Good thing they're changing that now.

Anyway, the quran does not tell women to cover their heads or faces or anything. Everyone is supposed to be modest and avoid lewdness. It's as simple as that.

And, I don't have that much of a problem with veil as much as I have a problem with countries like Saudi Arabia where they force women to cover themselves.
God has given us a free will (there is no compulsion!) and taking that right away is a sin. No one can force anyone to do anything.

peace

Daughter of Adam
11-12-2006, 01:40 AM
Well, I will never come to love the veil. I'll tell you why.
The veil is based on the idea that men are sexual animals who can't control themselves. Well, it doesn't matter if they can or not. The bottom line is that men shouldn't have to control themselves.
The women should cover themselves up completely to make sure that men aren't attracted to them, because if men are, then they have a right to have sex with you. If you are raped, it's your fault, women.
Women have sexual desires too, why do they have to control themselves? why can't men cover themselves up too?
Now, of course, there are many excuses. One of them being that it's impossible for men to get raped.
But that doesn't change the fact that the whole veil thing is unfair.
It limits the ability of women to be a part of society. It becomes difficult for them to go out and do something.
There is a difference between dressing modestly and covering yourself up completely. I respect women who are modest. Everyone does.
But for women to cover themselves up completely?????? that's ridiculous.
Our faces are important to us by nature. It's our way of indentifying who everyone is. If God intended for every woman's face to be covered, they'd all look the same, wouldn't they?

And most muslim women don't cover their faces. And I could go into how religion forces people to feel GUILTY so that they follow blindly ("original sin" is a great way). But I won't right now.
Most religious muslim women just cover their heads. Now I don't get what the big deal with hair is. Why do women have to cover their HAIR?
And wearing a scarf doesn't make you modest! the way you act is more important than the way you dress. If you act like a slut, no amount of black fabric will make you look modest! believe me, I know.
And the veil or headscarf hasn't been proven to be effective against sexual assaults.
In fact, 9 women get raped in Pakistan every DAY. And you need 4 witnesses (!!) to convict the accused, or the woman get prosecuted for adultery! That's a little bit of shariah law for you. Good thing they're changing that now.

Anyway, the quran does not tell women to cover their heads or faces or anything. Everyone is supposed to be modest and avoid lewdness. It's as simple as that.

And, I don't have that much of a problem with veil as much as I have a problem with countries like Saudi Arabia where they force women to cover themselves.
God has given us a free will (there is no compulsion!) and taking that right away is a sin. No one can force anyone to do anything.

peace

Firstly, you should love God Alone. Belief in everything else comes with certainty that God Alone deserves to be worshipped and submitting ourselves to Him. Secondly, no offense but you are a male and don't understand why women love to cover. I accepted Islaam and before even becoming Muslim (in my teens) I loved the idea of women covering from the eyes of men except for their husband's and families.

Covering the entire body wasn't based on the fact that men can't control themselves but based on the fact that the Lord of the Heavens and the Earth knows what is best for creation. It is for the protection of women and to give them their privacy and honor that they deserve.

As for men not covering, then you are incorrect as well. Men are required to cover certain areas of their bodies and are required to grow a beard as well, unless they naturally can not grow one. There are for both men and women dress etiquettes such as wearing lose clothing and so on.

It also doesn't limit our part in society. We women are the ones that raise the chilren and yet you say it limits us? What role do you want women to be playing? The role of working in smelly factories next to stinky men who have no respect for women? Since when do women have to be out in the streets working like men and leaving their responsibilities at home? Do you know how many of "your" women wish they could stop working and just stay home and help out with their communities?

As for the Qur'aan mentioning covering, then yes indeed it does mention covering and there is no difference of opinion about covering with a khimaar (aka scarf). As for covering the face then that is a topic of debate which you probably won't understand.

I will tell you that you are right that clothing doesn't define modesty but modesty will reflect on the outside of both men and women and thus what we put on our body is also a part of modesty. It reflects on men when they lower their gaze and move away from women and when they never speak softly with women. It reflects on women when they cover, aren't soft in their speech with men, lower their gazes (Yup, as well!) and so on.

It's funny. My father wishes my mother covered her body because of all of the problems that showing the body brings and he isn't even Muslim. May Allaah guide them aameen..

He sees how me and my husband have no problems like the majority of western societies because we follow the rules of hijaab to the best of our ability. So yes indeed it does bring about safety but we live in a corrupted society where women are being told to uncover and men are becoming even filthier dogs.

As for women being punished for someone raping them, then this is out of culture and not Islaam. As for the 4 witnesses, someone else can surely give better insight but Allaah knows the Wisdom in doing such a thing so that no person goes punished unjustly like in the west.

tatheer
16-12-2006, 09:17 AM
Again Anita Rai shows the power of Woman in Islam
her book THE ESSENTIAL WOMAN IS ONLINE.

W/S

tilmeedh
16-12-2006, 11:09 PM
Superman, are you muslim?