Video,pictures,tv.

[always-islam]

Assalamu Alaikom

I have heard from a lot of scholars that it is allowed to make photographs as long as long as it is not tangible,even some of those who said that it is not allowed,say that it is allowed to open pictures,for example on a computer as it is not tangible and can only be seen by running on the a device,the computer in this case.

Now I came across this site www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions The evils of T.V,wich says that even opening pictures is haram as you are helping the ''creating'' of the picture,is this true?

Jazakulaihi Alkhair

P.S Before you post a reply,could you please answer these few points:
1Images shown on screen are haram I agree/don't agree
2When turning the t.v on,and there appear images,the one who turned on the t.v also created the images I agree/don't agree (when answering I don't agree move on to q3)
3Images on t.v are not created by the one turning the t.v on,but are haram because they are images.
4:Making pictures by a (video)camera is haram I agree/don't agree

[Silver Sparrow]

even opening pictures is haram as you are helping the ''creating'' of the picture,is this true?
Maybe its one of those things thats difference of opinion
Try: http://www.daruliftaa.com/question.asp?txt_QuestionID=q-16155977

Depends on how strictly the scholars interpret it i guess. There was one classical scholar that said any pictures of Allah's creation (inc plants, moutains etc) was haram and at the other end there are scholars who say pictures of ppl etc are okay as long as the intention is correct and will not cause fitnah.

[always-islam]

From every islamiq q&a sites I have been,most of them say that watching pictures on screen is halal,however there are difference in opinions about photography

But anyway,could anyone confirm or refute that turning tv,computer or any other type of screen wich shows pictures of human beings and animals on,is just like drawing a picture.

[Silver Sparrow]

But anyway,could anyone confirm or refute that turning tv,computer or any other type of screen wich shows pictures of human beings and animals on,is just like drawing a picture.
From the link I posted earlier:

Shaykh Taqi Usmani (may Allah preserve him) sums this up in one of his Fatawa:

“The images appearing on live programs or recorded programs on television are not the pictures in the strict sense envisaged in the Ahadith of the Holy Prophet (Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam) unless they are printed in a durable form on paper or on any other object. But the basic reason why Muslims are advised not to keep TV sets in their homes is that most of the programs broadcast on the TV channels contain impermissible elements.” (Taken from the al-Balagh website, http://www.albalagh.net/qa/video_chips.shtml)

And Allah knows best

[muslim forever]

salaam

I found this a while ago....


The use of emotional signs, for example, smile, sad, etc. in a cellphone falls in the category of animate pictures.

It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=a7ea7661367a6673419fa66ee89dca75

Does this mean its prohibited to use them whilst ur emailing and on forums?

wasalaam

[Islamic Way]

salaam

I found this a while ago....



Does this mean its prohibited to use them whilst ur emailing and on forums?

wasalaam

Assalaamu alaikum. This is something which i used to wonder about. I understand the prohibition to extend to emails and forums also. After all if there is a pic of something animate one should alter it to make it look inanimate. eg. a butterfy embroidered on a cushion has to be altered so that it would not look like a picture of an animate thing.
emoticons undoubtedly reflect animate things.
Was Salaam

[always-islam]

So,for example the mark ''Puma'' wich has a puma as a logo,it however has no eyes,nose,earst etc. just a blanc ''face'' and the rest of the body,is this also considered an image wich is haram to wear?

[Silver Sparrow]

Does this mean its prohibited to use them whilst ur emailing and on forums?Ask Imam usually takes a stricter view than say sunnipath or darul iftaa. Depends on who you take the majority of your rulings from. Unfortunately, searching for emoticon on SP just searches for 'emotion' - weird

[always-islam]

Sorry for asking so much questions but....

I came across this hadeeth :

It is reported from Abul al-Hayaj al-Asadi who said 'Ali bin Abu Talib
(Radiyallahu anhu) told me: "Should I not instruct you to do as the
Messenger of Allah Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam instructed me? Do not leave a
statue standing without removing it. Do not leave a grave raised without
leveling it." (Naylul Awtaar vol.4 pg.83)

It says you shouldn't leave a statue standing,is this also the case in images on paper and screen,for example on street or in a store.

[loveProphet]

Ask Imam usually takes a stricter view than say sunnipath or darul iftaa. Depends on who you take the majority of your rulings from. Unfortunately, searching for emoticon on SP just searches for 'emotion' - weird
But you are Maliki, they allow even paintings(as long as they're not rude/show awra or show shirk) so pictures is not even an issue for you.

I wish i was Maliki:(, but i still follow the opinion that photos are allowed(as their is a difference of opinion amongst all schools and in Hanafis too).

[Silver Sparrow]

True but I tend to go for the hanafi ruling on picture making as detailed in darul iftaa's fatwa.


It says you shouldn't leave a statue standing,is this also the case in images on paper and screen,for example on street or in a store.we shouldn't take hadiths in isolation.

[always-islam]

we shouldn't take hadiths in isolation.

What does that mean.

Oh,and by the way,most scholars permit images because they're not tangible,however,where in the quraan or the hadeeths does it say that when images on screen are not tangible,they become permitted.

[Silver Sparrow]

I meant as non-scholars we shouldnt just look at one hadith and say 'heres the fatwa' etc. we arent qualified to interpret hadith, we should leave that to the fuqaha.


where in the quraan or the hadeeths does it say that when images on screen are not tangible,they become permitted.let me put it to you this way: is looking in the mirror haram?

[always-islam]

let me put it to you this way: is looking in the mirror haram?

Of course not,but the mirror is just a reflection,a mirror is not a real image,not because it is not tangible,but because it is just a reflection of the thing wich is being reflected.

I hope you can prove me wrong.

[loveProphet]

True but I tend to go for the hanafi ruling on picture making as detailed in darul iftaa's fatwa.

we shouldn't take hadiths in isolation.
Yes, but the Hanafis also differ amongst themselves on the ruling. The position of my Sheikhs is that photos are allowed, and i believe that this is the position of the great Hanafi and reviver of Islam, Imam Zahid al-Kawthari(RA).

[Silver Sparrow]

Of course not,but the mirror is just a reflection,a mirror is not a real image,not because it is not tangible,but because it is just a reflection of the thing wich is being reflected.

I hope you can prove me wrong.
Bro if you won't believe the ulama then I don't see why you would believe me.
Again, I refer you to the fatwa by darul iftaa. There is a difference of opinion in this issue. Both opinions are correct. Laymen should not ask for 'proofs' because we simply do not have the knowledge to comprehend: and deriving rulings is more complex than just saying this hadith says this or that so thats what we do.
Please read inshallah: Asking for Evidences is a Clear Daleel of Your Ignorance (http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65)


Yes, but the Hanafis also differ amongst themselves on the ruling. The position of my Sheikhs is that photos are allowed, and i believe that this is the position of the great Hanafi and reviver of Islam, Imam Zahid al-Kawthari(RA). While I accept that as a maliki picture making is permitted for me, I still tend to avoid making physical images and this is not wrong. So while I might take photos of birds on a digital camera, I refrain from printing them out although I accept there is no blame on me if I do.