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26-10-2004, 12:58 PM
I have read that there is a disagreement among Muslim scholars on whether "Bismillah" is a part of soorah al fatiha.
How could there be a disagreement on such an important issue? Isnt it very odd that there is a discussion whether some sentences are a part of the quran or not?
26-10-2004, 03:27 PM
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26-10-2004, 04:58 PM
Assalamu alaikum wr wb
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem means In the name of Allah, most compassionate, most Merciful.
Basically that is starting at the beginning of every surah to say this is in the name of Allah, i read this with His Message.
Where Ar-Rahmaan nir Raheem is the 2nd line in surah fatiha, we are still saying it in the name of Allah.
Whether it is an actual verse or not apart of surah fatiha is unknown to me, though i've always been taught that it should be used in, whenever you do something or anything should do it in the name of Allah, as a protection, means for you to get blessings, reward..and benefits.
you can check sunnipath if you cant find your answers here.
27-10-2004, 12:25 PM
Well i have found the explanation in a (salafi) book. Basically it states that there are 5 opinions on this matter:
1. Bismillah is a seperate verse at the beginning of every surah
2. Bismillah is only a part of a verse at the beginning of every surah
3. Bismillah is only a verse at the beginning of surah al-fatiha, and not for other sura's
4. Bismillah is a seperate verse, not a part of any surah, that has been placed at the beginning of the surah. In other words, bismillah is not to be counted as a verse in any surah, but as a verse of the quran.
5. Bismillah is not a verse of the quran, but a phrase which is used to distinguis one surah from another.
These above opinions can be divided into 2 main categories:
-Those who claim that the bismillah at the beginning of the sura's is a verse in the quran. and those who claim that its not.
Imam shafi'í and Imam Ahmad are of the opinion that the bismillah at the beginning of the sura's is a verse of the quran.
Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa (The transmission differed from Abu Hanifa according to sunnipath) regarding this do not hold that the bismillah at the beginning of the sura's to be a part of the quran..
And each group can back their claims with dalil.
The Basmala in the Qur'an
But what i find disturbing is that we muslims disagree on the contents of the quran whether bismillah is a part of the quran or not. That bothers me.
How is this suppose to rhyme with the preservation of the quran?
26-11-2004, 08:15 AM
Alhamdullilah i am managing to read one juz of the quran daily, and i was wondering if there was any book of tafsir available does a brief summary of the quran, juz by juz in english. Any book that would put forward the main messages of the juz.(max a few pages long) or is there anything else that i could do, other than reading the whole english translation of each juz.
26-11-2004, 10:22 AM
ibn Ayyub, there is a new Tafseer out in English. It is called Imdad ul Karam. Write to:
Jamia al Karam
Eaton Hall, Eaton,
and ask for Imdad ul Karam in English. It is brief. It costs £15 plus p&p of about £5-6
26-11-2004, 05:47 PM
Jazakallah, is there any other books somebody else may have come across instead. btw who is that book by?
26-11-2004, 06:09 PM
visit www.albalagh.net for authentic Islamic books.
26-11-2004, 08:15 PM
can u please refer to specific books rather than websites plz. jazakallah i am aware of albalagh though.
26-11-2004, 08:29 PM
If you are interested in Tafseer then you might be interested in Ma'ariful Quran by Molana Mufti Muhammad Shafi Sahib.
26-11-2004, 08:55 PM
for those who can read Urdu:
خلاصۂ قرآن - مولٰینا محمد اسلم شیخوپوری مد ظلہ (http://www.darsequran.com/quran/khulasa.html)
خلاصۂ تفسیر - استاذ الحدیث مولٰینا عتیق الرحمٰن مد ظلہ (http://www.bayanulquran.com/para1.html)
27-11-2004, 03:39 PM
i said brief!!!
27-11-2004, 03:47 PM
honestly why would such magnificient words be a debate. The first words every written by Allah's command were "Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Rahim" it wasn't left out then, so why leave it out in the Surah Al-Fatiha? I would definitely say it deserves to be there so let's leave it. Also there are other things to debate that are much more important. just my opinion
02-01-2005, 01:27 AM
There is consensus of all the Muslims on the fact that Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim is a verse of the Holy Qur'an, being a part of Surah al-Naml (The Ant); and there is also an agreement on that this verse is written at the head of every Surah except the Surah al-Taubah. But there is a difference of opinion among the Mujtahids (the authentic scholars who are entitled to express an opinion in such matters) as to whether this verse is an integral part of the Surah al-Fatihah or of all the Surahs or not. According to the great Imam Abu Hanifa, it is not an integral part of any Surah except al-Naml, rather it is in itself an independent verse of the Holy Qur'an which has been revealed for being placed at the beginning of every Surah in order to separate and distinguish one Surah from another. (Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi, Ma'ariful Quran [English Translation], Vol. 1, page 55).
Before beginning to recite the Qur'an, it is sunnah to first say A'oodhu bilLaahi min ash-Shaytaan ir-Rajeem (I seek refuge with Allah from Satan -- the accursed) and then Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim (I begin with the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Very-Merciful). And during the tilawah (the recitation of the Holy Qur'an) as well, saying Bismillah... at the beginning of each Surah, except the Surah Al-Bara'ah (al-Taubah), is Sunnah. (Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi, Ma'ariful Quran [English Translation], Vol. 1, page 57).
Insha'allah it is a topic best left to the Mujtahids to debate over.
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