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Yusuf
31-10-2004, 03:30 PM
Can and should this be read by laymen? Or should it be treated like any other hadith compilation like Bukhari, muslim et al?

I bought this and read the chapter on Tayammum> "..tayammum requires two light blows: one for the face and one for the arms to the elbows.." However in my fiqh notes(from Nur ul idah, i think) it states, intention to gain taharah or to pray salah is obligatory in tayummum. This is along with the two blows, obviously.

Mossy
31-10-2004, 04:06 PM
Um, well considering it's not one of the more rigorously authenticated collections, it probably wouldn't be expedient to read it even with a sharh. Hadith collections aren't generally recommended readings for laymen for a reason.. Even something like bukhari was only generally taught to finish things up - these are unprocessed bits of law after all, hence by definition not the province of the muqallid. Pick up some fiqh books, they're far more fun :)

Yusuf
31-10-2004, 04:25 PM
Pick up some fiqh books, they're far more fun :)

They're so not.

faqir
31-10-2004, 04:38 PM
I agree. Fiqh books are dead boring. I'd much rather read a book on Purification or something along those lines...

Yusuf
31-10-2004, 04:42 PM
I agree. Fiqh books are dead boring. I'd much rather read a book on Purification or something along those lines...

Exactly. Although usul ul fiqh is lovely. :)

faqir
31-10-2004, 04:55 PM
yeah, agreed. one of my favourite talks to listed to was "Foundations of our Methodology" by Sh. Abdallah bin Bayyah where he goes through some basics of Usul ul fiqh.

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
02-11-2004, 03:03 AM
as salamu alaykum

what!!!???

i love fiqh! especialyl maliki fiqh - maybe you should change maddhhab if you find it dead boring :D

when you reach the level of daleels in fiqh, it gets even more interesting - i touched on some (although i haven't reach that level at all - very far from it) with an alim, going through the evidences in the maliki school, and it was superb.... i wished there were some salafi's around (!)

saq333
02-11-2004, 07:09 AM
I agree. Fiqh books are dead boring. I'd much rather read a book on Purification or something along those lines...

As far as books on purification, Sh. Hamza's "Purification of the Heart" is probably the best contemporary book on Islam Ive ever read.

As far as Books on Fiqh, I find them to be the most interesting of all (man)written Islamic books. It teaches you alot about how the Imams formulated their opinions, how they differed, and why.

Books on hadith are reference books; and its even dangerous for one to interpret hadith as they wish. But books of Fiqh are rulings that have been formulated by Mujtahids in the light of Q and S. interesting stuff.

saq333
02-11-2004, 09:00 PM
as salamu alaykum

what!!!???

i love fiqh! especialyl maliki fiqh - maybe you should change maddhhab if you find it dead boring :D

when you reach the level of daleels in fiqh, it gets even more interesting - i touched on some (although i haven't reach that level at all - very far from it) with an alim, going through the evidences in the maliki school, and it was superb.... i wished there were some salafi's around (!)

Salaam bro,

what books are available in English on Maliki Fiqh?

I have the Distinguished Jurist's primer by Ibn Rushd, is there anything else out there?

Mossy
02-11-2004, 09:20 PM
There are some nice books by Yasin Dutton.. I've also found the items on Aisha Bewley's website of great use, eg: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Abewley/usul.html

There are a few other translations of popular texts out there too, I think I typed up a list of them in some post around here..

saq333
02-11-2004, 10:59 PM
There are some nice books by Yasin Dutton.. I've also found the items on Aisha Bewley's website of great use, eg: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Abewley/usul.html

There are a few other translations of popular texts out there too, I think I typed up a list of them in some post around here..

JazakALlah khair bro,

I have Yasin Dutton's Origins of Islamic Law. I read it about a year ago. It's probably the best book on the development of islamic Fiqh that ive read. It particularly got me interested in Maliki Fiqh.

I also recently purchased and read Aisha Bewley's translation of "The Medinian Way" by Imam Ibn Taymiyyah. it was also a very interesting read; really showing the Maliki method to be the most accurate in actertaining the Sunnah..that is, convincing to ME at least.

tariq3
20-12-2006, 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=Mossy;18027]Um, well considering it's not one of the more rigorously authenticated collections, it probably wouldn't be expedient to read it even with a sharh. QUOTE]

As salaamu 'alaikum,

Just a note: Al-Muwatta is most definitely rigorously authenticated. Check that stats. It's strength is well known.