High level of arsenic in ZamZam water

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh

Brothers and sisters, I was doing a little research on ZamZam water, the one in Makkah (the one and only), and I came across an article that caught my attention, saying that ZamZam water contained a high level of Arsenic. At first, I didn't know what it was, but it was pretty obvious that it wasn't good for you, so I did a quick look-up on the word, and just as I thought, it was a poison. It was actually an article from BBS, but unfortunately, I don't think I can find the site again (I'm very tired, and my anti-virus deletes history files and temporary Internet files autmatically). So this leads me to my question. Is this true, or is it just another trick from the kuffar?

Allah knows Best,

Salam

[slaveof Allaah]

:salam:

No way that ZamZam is polluted in any way, it is a gift from ALLAAH :taala: and therefore the article in question is garbage. The kuffar always try to plant seeds of enmity, don't let them grow!

[nayyerjigar]

:salam:

I agree and i think its a good idea not to spread such lies around.

:salam:

[adil al mujahid]

Assalamualaikum!!!

I dont think Zam Zam water contains any Chemicals that are harmful, rather they have everything that is beneficial for the body. It just anothjer propaganda by the enemies of Islam. Do Not pay attention to these allegations. If the Prophet said Zam Zam is good for you, then zam zam is good for you!! Case Closed

[*BismikAllahumma*]

aslaamu alaikum wa rehmatullahi wa barakaatohu

it's good that u brought up this topic on SF..because i actually remember last yr, i came across that article u r talking abt. I still have it sitting in my inbox...but i won't post it up (just yet) cuz it might be false...and i don't want to cause fitnah.

but my question is, can zamzam be exported from saudi for commercial sale??

is that true???


i'm unsure if that article is FALSE (maybe its just a trick of the kuffar)... plz help me out. if u guys want to read it...i can put it up....(i hope someone can refute it )


ALLAHU ALAM.

[*BismikAllahumma*]

Assalamualaikum!!!

I dont think Zam Zam water contains any Chemicals that are harmful, rather they have everything that is beneficial for the body. It just anothjer propaganda by the enemies of Islam. Do Not pay attention to these allegations. If the Prophet said Zam Zam is good for you, then zam zam is good for you!! Case Closed

that article is not talking about ALL the zam zam water... its just talks of this particular bottle (u know those small brown ones) that get sold in N.A. and europe.

[adil al mujahid]

that article is not talking about ALL the zam zam water... its just talks of this particular bottle (u know those small brown ones) that get sold in N.A. and europe.

Thanks Sister for clarifying!! It might be the bottle, like in the same way food cooked in copper vessels are bound to get poisoned (thats why we have steel cooking vessels). The best thing to do will be to post that article so tht we dont jump to our own conclusions.

Jazak allah

[*BismikAllahumma*]

ok here's the article. i hope i find a clear answer whether the article is false or not.

cuz last yr, a week after i had read it... my mom had bought that exact same water from an islamic bookstore...but i didnt say anything to her... but in my mind i was doubtful. I just wanna clear doubts.

http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2005/oct/zamzam

the article claims: Zam Zam water, which is sacred to Muslims, comes from a specific source in Saudi Arabia and cannot legally be exported from the country for commercial sale.

is that true??

waslaam

[loveProphet]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh

Brothers and sisters, I was doing a little research on ZamZam water, the one in Makkah (the one and only), and I came across an article that caught my attention, saying that ZamZam water contained a high level of Arsenic. At first, I didn't know what it was, but it was pretty obvious that it wasn't good for you, so I did a quick look-up on the word, and just as I thought, it was a poison. It was actually an article from BBS, but unfortunately, I don't think I can find the site again (I'm very tired, and my anti-virus deletes history files and temporary Internet files autmatically). So this leads me to my question. Is this true, or is it just another trick from the kuffar?

Allah knows Best,

Salam
:ws:

If it was polluted or dangerous, i'd be dead right now:)

[abdallah87]

assalam alaykum,

i still have that bottle i saw on that website right now!, i am not sure about it being reactive like as in copper vessels coz this one is like plastic..and i did drink from it..my uncle brought it from saudi..

and as regards to the sale of zam zam by exporting on a commercial scale i think its true because here even though i am so close to saudi(gcc) we dont have any shops that sell Zam zam, the only way is if any relative or close friends visit saudi.But then how is it being sold in UK??

it might be that some company is exporting it without proper permission....i never heard that zam zam is available in stores?which company is marketing it?

[slaveof Allaah]

:salam:

Alhamdulilah ive been drinking Zam Zam from that particular bottle for years and not once have i gotten sick from it. In short this is NOTHING but propaganda from the kuffar, we must understand that the kuffar have nothing in the wicked way of thinking that can allow for the understanding of the beauty of Zam Zam.

Even their concept of "holy water" is a abused notion, and many do not even hold this water to be "holy".

The spreading of this article and articles of the type, there were some articles a few years past, which spoke negativly about Miswak. It turned out that the author had no idea what he was talking about, which could clearly be seen in his "evidence"- fabricated lies about the Miswak. The kuffar will never accpet or praise the ideas of the Muslims, and we :insh: will never hold their ideas on a petestel either, so we should not worry ourseleves with thier fitna spreading lies. Speak out agaisnt baatil and propagate the Haq.

As one akhee put it

"kuffar is the cancer, Islam is the Answer"

[Ansari]

Some orientalists did write some articles on zamzam water (which they recieved from the Saudi's) declaring what the topic poster posted.

I wonder what the reply of the Saudi's was.

[Dawood82]

I don't think there is any restriction on bringing ZamZam into the US. Everybody brings HUGE gallon containers of ZamZam.

That is if USCIS doesn't pull you off the plane and you end up loosing your ZamZam at the luggage terminal... grrrrrr.......

[*BismikAllahumma*]

:salam:

Alhamdulilah ive been drinking Zam Zam from that particular bottle for years and not once have i gotten sick from it. In short this is NOTHING but propaganda from the kuffar, we must understand that the kuffar have nothing in the wicked way of thinking that can allow for the understanding of the beauty of Zam Zam.

Even their concept of "holy water" is a abused notion, and many do not even hold this water to be "holy".

The spreading of this article and articles of the type, there were some articles a few years past, which spoke negativly about Miswak. It turned out that the author had no idea what he was talking about, which could clearly be seen in his "evidence"- fabricated lies about the Miswak. The kuffar will never accpet or praise the ideas of the Muslims, and we :insh: will never hold their ideas on a petestel either, so we should not worry ourseleves with thier fitna spreading lies. Speak out agaisnt baatil and propagate the Haq.

As one akhee put it

"kuffar is the cancer, Islam is the Answer"


jazakAllah khair


- ok so i've made up my mind.. the article is false...and theres no 'arsenic' prob in those particular zamzam bottles.

- may Allah forgive me for believing the lies of the food standards agency.

- All Praise be to Allah, for giving us the blessing of the Zamzam water.

The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: "The best water on the surface of the earth is that of Zamzam. In it there is a food for the hungry and a cure for the ill."

[Kareem]

they could also just have been testing those bottles you can buy. but in alot of cases thats not zamzam at all, just a scam

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh

Brothers and sisters, I was doing a little research on ZamZam water, the one in Makkah (the one and only), and I came across an article that caught my attention, saying that ZamZam water contained a high level of Arsenic. At first, I didn't know what it was, but it was pretty obvious that it wasn't good for you, so I did a quick look-up on the word, and just as I thought, it was a poison. It was actually an article from BBS, but unfortunately, I don't think I can find the site again (I'm very tired, and my anti-virus deletes history files and temporary Internet files autmatically). So this leads me to my question. Is this true, or is it just another trick from the kuffar?

Allah knows Best,

Salam

You know one of my uncles came back from Hajj and brought me ZAM ZAM water. I drank ZAM ZAM water like it was 7-up... it taste so refreshing and good how could you save it? lol

Also, if it contained poison by now I wouldn't exist since in my family we always get our own ZAM ZAM water and its "DELICIOUS".



wa-salaam

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

that article is not talking about ALL the zam zam water... its just talks of this particular bottle (u know those small brown ones) that get sold in N.A. and europe.

That BROWN BOTTLE is what I been drinking for the past few years and I don't share with no one... but I'm still healthy and alive.

I'll do you guys a favor, I will get one of those brown bottles next time and take it to my university and have some of my friends take it to the lab and see what they come up with and I'm sure it is not what the articles claimed.

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

assalam alaykum,

i still have that bottle i saw on that website right now!, i am not sure about it being reactive like as in copper vessels coz this one is like plastic..and i did drink from it..my uncle brought it from saudi..

and as regards to the sale of zam zam by exporting on a commercial scale i think its true because here even though i am so close to saudi(gcc) we dont have any shops that sell Zam zam, the only way is if any relative or close friends visit saudi.But then how is it being sold in UK??

it might be that some company is exporting it without proper permission....i never heard that zam zam is available in stores?which company is marketing it?


Also, the zam zam water that your uncle brought it was from Saudi Arabia of course... that same exact bottle. I also had the same exact bottle from Saudi Arabia and it didn't do any harm. Here is the thing, it is possible that some people go and get a tons of those bottles and come back to the states and sell them. I went to this store, the brother had gone to hajj and when he came back he had zam zam water in his store. I asked him how he got it? he said saudi arabia after hajj. I don't know how they do it but my uncle always comes back with 1 bottle, maybe he's cheap or maybe they only allow one. lol

Anyways, when I drink zam zam water even if you put it in a 'Mountain Spring Water bottle' and give it to me without telling me its zam zam and I drink it I can tell you the following "I FEEL VERY PURE AS IF SOMETHING JUST FLUSHED THROUGH MY BODY AND CLEANSED ME" ... We use to play these psychological games back when we were kids, putting zam zam water in regular water bottles to see if the other person feels something different and they would always reply with 'this is good, i feel cleansed' etc.


It is possible that some people go around and collect these BROWN BOTTLES (EMPTY BOTTLES), and pour their own type of water in there with chemicals to help make it taste close enough to zam zam. I mean these bottels are not hard to make, you can make them yourself if you search 'Make Bottles' on google, it will tell you how they use to do it back in the days and today. These things are not hard.

But the original ZAM ZAM water from SAUDI ARABIA is not bad for your health. These people also said that the "BLACK STONE" in Kaabah is a "METEOR" and they wrote an article about it and said that Muslims are actually pagans that worship METEORS... of course they couldn't prove it but they will do anything to get you to turn away from whats good!


wa-salaam

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

ok here's the article. i hope i find a clear answer whether the article is false or not.

cuz last yr, a week after i had read it... my mom had bought that exact same water from an islamic bookstore...but i didnt say anything to her... but in my mind i was doubtful. I just wanna clear doubts.

http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2005/oct/zamzam

the article claims: Zam Zam water, which is sacred to Muslims, comes from a specific source in Saudi Arabia and cannot legally be exported from the country for commercial sale.

is that true??

waslaam

The article you posted is pretty much going along the lines of what I said earlier.

The ZAM ZAM water they are talking about is not the original bottles provided in Saudi Arabia. They are talking about these brands that other people are selling in stores called zam zam water in brown bottles. So the story might be true but here is the question who came up with the investigation? were there any Muslim's who researched and test the water to conclude the following points in the article? or was it just a few non-muslims who went on and did it themselves.

You have to understand its all about the market I'm sure they don't want ZAM ZAM water out in the market because it takes all the popular demand away from other companies. I have friends that ask me so many q uestions about zam zam water and why it taste so good. I got people I know that request zam zam water from brothers going to hajj.

I stopped drinking COCA COLA and PEPSI, I do it once in a blue moon but I tell it like it is if ZAM ZAM water was available in stores, I would get one or two bottles everyday.

The article is again pointing at some products being sold in UK that are not from SAUDI ARABIA.

CONCLUSION (IS ZAM ZAM WATER IN UK UNHEALTHY?):

If the water is not from SAUDI ARABIA and the products are made in UK than yes this zam zam water bottle should be of concern and people should refuse to drink it.

If the water is from SAUDI ARABIA and the products have somehow made it over to the UK then NO zam zam water bottles s hould not be of any concer and people should drink it.


Which one is it? That is up to your own perception... I like OPTION NUMBER 2.

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

"kuffar is the cancer, Islam is the Answer"

lol... Mashallah!

What a QUOTE love it.

[hayseed]

lol... Mashallah!

What a QUOTE love it. Kuffar is the cancer,Islam is the answer


I find that very offensive, but will not complain to the mods.:mad:

thats all us kaffars have to do is mess with your zam zam water, it probably was the Jewish new world order that did it .lol

[Alhumdulillah]

There was once a Christian lady who I think asked my Mum for Zam Zam water.

Abraham and his son Ismail (peace be upon them both) built the Ka'aba at Makkah - Makkah is mentioned in (what is now regarded as) the Torah and the Psalms (Zaboor):

'Arise and lift up the lad and hold him in thy hand for I will make him a great nation'. And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water. (Genesis 21: 19-20) This passage is about Ismail (Peace be upon him) and his mother, and the Well of Zam Zam which sprang up next to him.

"Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well (Psalm 84: 5-6) This second reference contains the word Baca, which was the old name for Makkah (Quran 3:96) and it maybe is referring again to the Well of ZamZam,

Allah Ta'ala knows best.

Wasalaam.

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

Kuffar is the cancer,Islam is the answer


I find that very offensive, but will not complain to the mods.:mad:

thats all us kaffars have to do is mess with your zam zam water, it probably was the Jewish new world order that did it .lol

Kufar = Non-Believers

I'm sure you believe that there is ONE GOD and so do JEWS.


;)

[Dawood82]

لم يكن الذين كفروا من أهل الكتب و المشركين

Not my tafseer, was in a khutbah.

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

In bold letters we stress "The belief in ONE GOD" ;)

and if you delve away from that and you believe in no god, or 3 gods etc... than you are rejecting everything that as been passed down from Abraham (PBUH) to MOSES (PBUH) to JESUS (PBUH) and now Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH).

[Dawood82]

mushrik = associates partners with Allah
kafir = denies, or covers up - can be a monotheist and still be a kafir.

[Poisonous Darts]

mushrik = associates partners with Allah
kafir = denies, or covers up - can be a monotheist and still be a kafir.

What Do Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians etc Fall under as ?

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

We agree that a kafir is someone who hides and denies the truth. Logically this means that a kafir is someone who has heard of Islam and knows it's the truth, but still deny it. So technically, if a Christian, Jew, etc. know about Islam and knows it's the truth, than he is a kafir, otherwise, he's a mushrik, i.e. associates partners with Allah, or doesn't believe in him and the prophets he sent down (PBUT).

Allah knows best,

Salam

[hayseed]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

We agree that a kafir is someone who hides and denies the truth. Logically this means that a kafir is someone who has heard of Islam and knows it's the truth, but still deny it. So technically, if a Christian, Jew, etc. know about Islam and knows it's the truth, than he is a kafir, otherwise, he's a mushrik, i.e. associates partners with Allah, or doesn't believe in him and the prophets he sent down (PBUT).

Allah knows best,

Salam

Jihad-Allah.....well yes,I have heard of Islam! you say it's the truth and I don't.
it gets kind of circular when you say i deny the truth that i think is not true:confused: when you say the Holy Koran is the only thing logical and all else is wrong.....well call me a kafir.lol God Bless! as i think the trinity is one God call me a mushrick too. Mushric and Kafir sound so harsh

[Dawood82]

In my algebra class the teacher was talking about inequalities. She was giving examples and one of the problems worked out to 3 = 1. She said, this is a false statement, and not a proper solution.

Well, yeah...

So smart, but so blind.

[hayseed]

In my algebra class the teacher was talking about inequalities. She was giving examples and one of the problems worked out to 3 = 1. She said, this is a false statement, and not a proper solution.

Well, yeah...

So smart, but so blind.

dawood the 3 are different aspects of 1 God. look at the number 1 it has 3 parts;)

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

You're right. The 1 does have three parts. Three thirds. Without one third, the 1 isn't complete, it becomes 0.6. So technically, you're saying that without one of those three aspects, God isn't God anymore. Think of it. The Holy Spirit, in Islam, is the Angel Gabriel. What you're saying is that without the creation, the creator isn't complete, beacuse God created the Angel Gabriel, and if he wasn't complete, he wouldn't have been able to create a being so important that he himself would depend on it. Not a strong point.

Allah knows best,

Salam

[Dawood82]

It also has five 5ths, and eight 8ths...

[Dawood82]

They don't claim that the Holy Sprit is referring to Jibril (Gabriel) (Peace be upon him).

[hayseed]

if I remember in Islam Allah[swt] ? is that correct to use swt, has no form.

in the Holy Bible God does have a form.

And (the) Elohiym said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.... so (the) Elohiym created Adam in their image, in the image of Elohiym created they him.

the Elohiym is to put it simply like h20, it can have 3 different states.

Liquid, ice, and vapor all three are the same substance.

like the 99 names of Allah[swt] they all mean God

as for taking 1/3 of God away, i am only human and can not deconstruct God

an eye is not a eye unless it has all it's parts.

so if you could remove part of Elohiym you would be right and God would not exist.

the Trinity has always existed no part was ever created.

Alpha and Omega...............may God Bless you Jihad-Allah


now that I think of it, how can I use anything from the Holy Bible that the Holy Koran says is corrupted. that Allah [swt] says is corrupted no less.

so we have two different Holy Books that both claim to be true.



to me mine and to you your's

[Dawood82]

SWT is for Subhanahu wa Ta'Ala. You could say in english: Glorified and Exhaulted.

Your scholars have only interpolated "Created in our image" to mean physical likeness - and not all christians agree on this interpretation.

We believe in the Messages that were revealed to Moses and Jesus and all the Prophets (Peace be upon them), however, they have been corrupted by the people, as your own records bear witness. The Qur'an clearly says that it will be protected until the Day of Judgement - and its preservation bears witness to the truth of it.

[Jihad-Allah]

:$
if I remember in Islam Allah[swt] ? is that correct to use swt, has no form.

in the Holy Bible God does have a form.

And (the) Elohiym said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.... so (the) Elohiym created Adam in their image, in the image of Elohiym created they him.

the Elohiym is to put it simply like h20, it can have 3 different states.

Liquid, ice, and vapor all three are the same substance.

like the 99 names of Allah[swt] they all mean God

as for taking 1/3 of God away, i am only human and can not deconstruct God

an eye is not a eye unless it has all it's parts.

so if you could remove part of Elohiym you would be right and God would not exist.

the Trinity has always existed no part was ever created.

Alpha and Omega...............may God Bless you Jihad-Allah


now that I think of it, how can I use anything from the Holy Bible that the Holy Koran says is corrupted. that Allah [swt] says is corrupted no less.

so we have two different Holy Books that both claim to be true.



to me mine and to you your's

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

You stated above the example of the three states. What you're trying to tell me is that God has three forms: the form of Jesus (PBUH), the form of God, and the form of the Holy Spirit. Let's analyse the situation, you earlier called these three "states" parts, and that without one part, God wouldn't be complete, but in this example, you say that he doesn't need all three parts to be complete, and that each part is God, since whether H2O is liquid, vapor, or solid, it's still H2O, thus, if God is one of the three "parts", then he's complete, but that doesn't make sense, because you also stated earlier that if 1 is missing a third, then it's 0.6, not 1. The above paragraph is simply to tell you that earlier, God depended on each "part" to be complete, but now you're saying that he only needs one.

Allah knows best,

Salam

[hayseed]

so if you could remove part of Elohiym you would be right and God would not exist.

if you could, but you can't

"John the Baptist came after Jesus (PBUH)". .......do you mean after the
Crucifiction of Jesus?

Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit.

[abdallah87]

salam alaykum brothers..

in context of the ongoing discussion something comes to my mind..

in of the Lectures of Shaikh Ahmed Deedat..a pakistani sister posed this question to Shaikh Deedat..im quoting it...(near exact..forgive anymistakes)./.whats in quotesa re the actual sayings of the sister

"Assalam alaykum Brother Deedat, one of my christian friends asked methis question and i was not able to answer, can you please answer it?.."

The sister asked the question "my friend asked me, if Water can exist in three forms..Solid(ICe)..Liquid(water)...Gas(water Vapour)...then why cant God exist in three forms?"..she meant as in Father,Holy Ghost and Son

ALhamdulillah this is how SHaikh Deedat Replied..

im not quoting it exact as i dont remember the exact words but i do remeber what he said...mashallah just listen..im saying it in my oiwn words..

He started of by saying that if for example if theres a business man....he could be muiltiple...i mean like

he could be basuinessman as in he does business.
he could be a father..as in he has kids..
he could be a husband..in he is married and has wife...

but..BuT...if his wife tells him a secret....all the 3 know it..the Businessman(part) of him knows about it..the Father(part) of him knows about it...
Similarly if the business man dies..the Father dies..the Husband dies..

getting my point?(brother hayseed?) wallahi its so LOGICAL..i dont even have to check it. out in some book.....its jsut plain common sense!!

Similarly he also counter answered abt the water stuff by saying

water does exist in three forms..solid..water..and gas..

BUT in all its three forms ...the molecule or the constituent remains the same.

like in ice also the constitients are H20 and liquid also H20 and gas also H20

but as the christians say all are the same...he(Shaikh Deedat) answreed that
obviusly a Ghost and a human(Son or Jesus as the christians call) are not the same..

And Allah Knows Best...

Jazakallah and hope the above information was helpful...

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,

Hayseed, there's big contradictions in every statement you make. When you say something and you try to explain, the explanation contradicts the matter itself. You said earlier that God has three aspects, and you gave as an example that 1 also had three parts. You meant by that that even when 1/3 is missing, 1 isn't 1 anymore, thus, you're saying that without one of those aspects, God isn't God anymore. Later, you said that God had three forms, which contradicts what you said at first. Let me explain, you gave as an example that whether H2O is solid, liquid, or gas, it's still H2O, thus, what you're saying is that God was complte whether he was the Holy spirit, the son of God, or God. So what you've been saying at first is that God depends on those three aspects, and after, you say He doesn't. Controversy.

Allah knows best,

Salam

[Abu-Umar-Usman-Ali]

Lets discuss this TRINITY 3 god and 1 god in a new thread because this one is for "ZAM ZAM WATER"

Hayseed if you want to further discuss this look for the new thread:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=166412#post166412

wa-salaam

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,

Brother, I really don't mind if the discussion continues here.

Allah knows best,

Salam

[Saj]

Salaam

A few days ago I read on the news (in UK) that Muslims have been advised not to buy bottled zamzam water because it has high levels of arsenic in it? Can someone tell me the truth of this?

Thanks

[source1984]

Salaam

A few days ago I read on the news (in UK) that Muslims have been advised not to buy bottled zamzam water because it has high levels of arsenic in it? Can someone tell me the truth of this?

Thanks

Yes I've heard about this. They don't mean all Zamzam water. There's a specific brand which markets the zamzam water in those little plastic clay pot looking bottles. High arsenic was found in that specific brand's shipments of zamzam water.

[Sister Khadijah]

:salam:

This particular story is repeatedly recycled on the BBC - at least I know they said this earlier this year/last year on the BBC.

They make reference to having tested a sample of water sold in those 'plastic pot like jars' in stores here in the UK - and was found to have very high levels of arsenic. As a result the store either closed down or all the zamzam water products were removed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zamzambottle.jpg (pic)

So they advised against that particular 'brand' if you like. I cannot vouch or verify but this is the article which they refer to.

However, I believe that the water you buy in those 10litre huge plastic containers or other when you are there in the Holy City of Meccah can be guaranteed to be from the source...and I personally don't believe that Zam Zam contains arsenic.

It would be great if people could test it.

I'm not sure why they would find arsenic in those particular plastic pot like jars of zam zam. :( - either someone is sourcing the water from other than zam zam or zam zam has gotten contaminated from some other source???????

Dear God please don't let us have doubt in the blessed ZamZam.

I would be grateful too if people could help out with this q.

[Sister Khadijah]

I received this in my email inbox back in Oct 2003. I thought I would share. I have no idea where the source is from. If someone knows/recognises - would be good to know.


Zum Zum Water



Research by a Muslim chemical engineer.



We came here again to perform the Omrah, and I am reminded of the wonders of Zum-zum.



Let me go back to how it all started. In 1971, an Egyptian doctor wrote to the European Press, a letter saying that Zum-zum water was not fit for drinking purposes. I immediately thought that this was just a form of prejudice against the Muslims and that since his statement was based on the assumption that since the Ka'aba was a shallow place (below sea level) and located in the center of the city of Makkah, the wastewater of the city collecting through the drains fell into well holding the water.



Fortunately, the news came to King Faisal's ears who got extremely angry and decided to disprove the Egyptian doctor's provocative statement. He immediately ordered the Ministry of Agriculture and Water Resources to investigate and send samples of! Zum-zum water to European laboratories for testing the potability of the water. The ministry then instructed the Jeddah Power and Desalination Plant to carry out this task.



It was here that I was employed as a desalting engineer (chemical engineer to produce drinking water from sea water). I was chosen to carry out this assignment. At this stage, I remember that I had no idea what the well holding the water looked like. I went to Makkah and reported to the authorities at the Ka'aba explaining my purpose of visit.



They deputed a man to give me whatever help was required. When we reached the well, it was hard for me to believe that a pool of water, more like a small pond, about 18 by 14 feet, was the well that supplied millions of gallons of water every year to hajis ever since it came into existence at the time of Hazrat Ibrahim A.S., many, many centuries ago.



I started my investigations and took the ! dimensions of the well. I asked the man to show me the depth of the well. First he took a shower and descended into the water. Then he straightened his body. I saw that the water level came up to just above his shoulders. His height was around five feet, eight inches. He then started moving from one corner to the other in the well (standing all the while since he was not allowed to dip his head into the water) in search of any inlet or pipeline inside the well to see from where the water came in.



However, the man reported that he could not find any inlet or pipeline inside the well. I thought of another idea. The water could be withdrawn rapidly with the help of a big transfer pump which was installed at the well for the Zum-zum water storage tanks. In this way, the water level would drop enabling us to locate the point of entry of the water.



Surprisingly, nothing was observed during the pumping period, but I knew that this was the only method by which you could find the entrance of the water to the well. So I decided to repeat the process. But this time I instructed the man to stand still at one place and carefully observe any unusual thing happening inside the well. After a while, he suddenly raised his hands and shouted, "Alhamdollillah! I have found it. The sand is dancing beneath my feet as the water oozes out of the bed of the well."



Then he moved around the well during the pumping period and noticed the same phenomenon everywhere in the well. Actually the flow of water into the well through the bed was equal at every point, thus keeping the level of the water steady. After I finished my observations I took the samples of the water for European laboratories to test. Before I left the Ka'aba, I asked the authorities about the other wells around Makkah.



I was told that these wells were mostly dry. When I reached my office in Jeddah I reported my findings to my boss who listened with great interest but made a very irrational comment that the Zum-zum well could be internally connected to the Red Sea. How was it possible when Makkah is about 75 kilometers away from the sea and the wells located before the city usually remains dry? The results of the water samples tested by the European laboratories and the one We analyzed in our own laboratory were found to be almost identical.



The difference between Zum-zum water and other water (city water) was in the quantity of calcium and magnesium salts. The content of these was slightly higher in Zum-zum water. This may be why his water refreshes tired hajis, but more significantly, the water contains fluorides that have an effective germicidal action. Moreover, the remarks of the European laboratories showed that the water was it for drinking. Hence the statement made by the Egyptian doctor was proved false.



When this was reported to King Faisal he was extremely pleased and ordered the contradiction of the report in the European Press. In a way, it was a blessing that this study was undertaken to show the chemical composition of the water. In fact, the more you explore, the more wonders surface and you find yourself believing implicitly in the miracles of this water that Allah bestowed as a gift on the faithful coming from far and wide to the desert land for pilgrimage.



Let me sum up some of the features of Zum-zum water.



This well has never dried up. On the contrary it has always fulfilled the demand for water. It has always maintained the same salt composition and taste ever since it came into existence. Its potability has always been universally recognized as pilgrims from all over the world visit Ka'aba every year for Hajj and umrah, but have never complained about it. Instead, they have always enjoyed the water that refreshes them. Water tastes different at different places.



Zum-zum water's appeal has always been universal. This water has never been chemically treated or chlorinated as is the case with water pumped into the cities. Biological growth and vegetation usually takes place in most wells.



This makes the water unpalatable owing to the growth of algae causing taste and odor problems. But in the case of the Zum-zum water well, there wasn't any sign of biological growth. Centuries ago, Bibi Hajra A.S. searched desperately for water in the hills of Sufwa and Murwa to give to her newly born son Hazrat Ismail A.S. As she ran from one place to another in search of water, her child rubbed his feet against the sand. A pool of water surfaced, and by the grace of Allah, shaped itself into a well which came to be called Zum-zum water.



Please pass this on to everyone to know the facts of great wonders of Zum-zum. And Allah gave them a reward in this world, and the excellent reward of the Hereafter.



“For Allah Loveth those who do good.”

[al-‘Imraan (The Family of ‘Imraan) 3:148]



Other links on the virtues of Zam Zam

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-4295.html

The wiki link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamzam_Well
Science direct link: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6T6R-409VHTX-1C/1/8b0dbe752084d21cf07221c9449dec70

Article in the Jumuah Mag that I don't normally read but that my eyes fell upon 'cos it was Zamzam:
http://abdurrahman.org/health/zamzam.html

[Sister Khadijah]

:salam:

This is something from the Islamic Events yahoogroups back in 2005.




In the Name of Allâh, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate
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24 Ramadan 1426 / 28 October 2005
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Assalâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuhu
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ALERT ON FAKE IMPORTED ZAM ZAM WATER

The Food Standards Agency is advising consumers to be aware of the
fraudulent sale of Zam Zam water that may pose a food safety risk.
A brand of Zam Zam formally sampled by the London Borough of
Westminster has been found to contain almost three times the
permitted level of arsenic, which could contribute to increasing
people's risk of cancer. The local authority has taken action to
prevent further sale of the product from the outlet. In addition
they have contacted the importer of the water to ensure that they
cease to import the product. No other outlets are known to have
stocked this product. Other brands of Zam Zam water are thought
to be on sale in the UK and could be similarly contaminated.
Genuine Zam Zam water cannot be legally exported from Saudi
Arabia for commercial sale, therefore, any product found in the
shops would have an uncertain provenance and possible safety
risk. The FSA is therefore advising people not to buy or drink
commercially available brands of Zam Zam water and to inform
their Local Authority Environmental Health or Trading Standards
Department if they come across Zam Zam water on sale.

Thanks are due to Dr Yunus Teinaz, Senior Environment Health
Officer at the London Borough of Haringey and Health, for his
efforts in this regard.

For further information you can contact the MCB:
Tel: 020 8432 0585 / 8432 0586
Fax: 020 8432 0587
E-mail: admin@...

[Skilly]

Well since Zam Zam water is not available for export than there is a most likely that these are not really Zam Zam water.

FSA issued the same warning this year.

[Jihad-Allah]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu,

I made the same thread, http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18882&highlight=zamzam+arsenic.

Allah knows best,

Salam.

[Dr Mohammed Kamran]

Asslamu Alaikum brothers and sisters,

Some of you may have noticed broadcasts on the Asian channels and British media that make (unfounded) statements that Zam Zam water IS poisonous and can cause cancer (auzubillah).

I wondered what this claim was based on. Having done some quick reading it was clear there was no evidence to show any causative link or study to support this claim. In fact I found evidence to the contrary, which was published in reputable scientific journals.

This supports that Arsenic in low to moderate levels actually has quote "SIGNIFICANT MEDICINAL PROPERTIES”, which including treating cancers (as supported by phase3 double blind studies – which means the results carry weight). Please look at the abstract and first paragraph of the scientific paper - pdf titled "Medicinal properties of Arsenic" (http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/cgi/reprint/6/suppl_2/1.pdf and http://www.nature.com/nchina/2010/100505/full/nchina.2010.62.html respectively).

A good example of clearly misleading text can be found from the Foods Standards Agency published today (http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2010/jul/zamzam), a quote from which is "People should consider avoiding drinking any water described as Zam Zam because there is no completely safe level of arsenic in water – and the more arsenic consumed the greater the risk". This statement is a misnomer and misleading because it links a weak comment (but seemingly plausible comment to the general public) with a scary statement which although true (if someone was going to consume quantities of concentrated/ pure arsenic powder), it simply cannot be applied or associated to drinking Zam Zam water.

Even by drinking copious amounts of Zam Zam over Ramadan, no individual could even come close to reaching toxic levels (not by any measure).

There is no qualification or published evidence to support the FSA statement, and indeed research supports the contrary to the FSA statement as Arsenic has medicinal properties (please check the attached examples, article published in "Nature China" and pdf titled "Medicinal properties of Arsenic". There is plenty of more evidence but the point is made by these two articles.

Interestingly the FSA wrote "there is no completely safe level of arsenic in water" (which clearly does not fit with the published scientfic data).

Furthermore, the FSA then go on to say "if anyone has occasionally drunk small amounts of this ‘Zam Zam’ water, the risk to health for adults and older children would be very low". My point here is that if the FSA have made a claim that "there is no completely safe level of arsenic in water" how can they then continue to say "the risk to health for adults and older children would be very low", seems like a “get-out” clause to me.

The opening statement of the FSA reads “As Muslims observe Ramadan, the FSA advises that people should consider avoiding drinking bottled water described or labelled as Zam Zam water”. My comment is that in the absence of any scientific data to support the aforementioned statement/warning, the FSA position to advise individuals not to drink Zam Zam over Ramadan is tantamount to slander.

There is no scientific basis/evidence to support a realistic likelihood that a typical individual is going to die of arsenic poisoning by drinking Zam Zam water.

[saqfu]

Salam Alaikum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh

Brothers and sisters, I was doing a little research on ZamZam water, the one in Makkah (the one and only), and I came across an article that caught my attention, saying that ZamZam water contained a high level of Arsenic. At first, I didn't know what it was, but it was pretty obvious that it wasn't good for you, so I did a quick look-up on the word, and just as I thought, it was a poison. It was actually an article from BBS, but unfortunately, I don't think I can find the site again (I'm very tired, and my anti-virus deletes history files and temporary Internet files autmatically). So this leads me to my question. Is this true, or is it just another trick from the kuffar?

Allah knows Best,

Salam

well i dont know anyone who has died in the history of drinking zam zam water

[insufficient]

well i dont know anyone who has died in the history of drinking zam zam water

:salam:

I'd prefer dying that way than most others :)

[hafs]

Asalamualikum,
If i remember correctly the zamzam water with high levels of arsenic was not zamzam from makkah but water that had been bottled from a well in jeddah but was being marketed as zamzam . The level some people will fall to to make a quick profit.
wasalaam

[Nasr]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205

The BBC asked a pilgrim to take samples from taps which were linked to the Zam Zam well and to buy bottles on sale in Mecca, to compare the water on sale illegally with the genuine source.

These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic at three times the permitted maximum level, just like the illegal water which was purchased in the UK.

[AbuFatimah]

This is the problem with involving our aql in matters of religion.

I dont care what teh scientists "discover".

Dont fall into the same traps that teh ummah has fallen into in the past by engaging them in their own rhetoric.

[ahamed_sharif]

Assalamu alaykum

What I understand is that the bottled zam zam water sold in market is polluted. Not the water filled directly from zam zam well taps.

[AbuFatimah]

Salaam

A few days ago I read on the news (in UK) that Muslims have been advised not to buy bottled zamzam water because it has high levels of arsenic in it? Can someone tell me the truth of this?

Thanks

Come on, the luffar are attacking Islaam left right and centre, of course they will attack zamzam. they evenm attack arabic language:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11181457

however look at a muslim analysis of this so called "research":

http://muslimmatters.org/2010/09/16/study-concludes-arabic-is-hard-to-read-especially-when-it%e2%80%99s-written-wrong/


meanwhile the good hearted people of "Israel" decided in order to build bridges between arabs and Jews they will do this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11075326


Belive me, the kuffar are plotting a plot against islaam and they plan to attack it from all angles

[AbuFatimah]

Come on, the luffar are attacking Islaam left right and centre, of course they will attack zamzam. they evenm attack arabic language:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11181457

however look at a muslim analysis of this so called "research":

http://muslimmatters.org/2010/09/16/...written-wrong/


meanwhile the good hearted people of "Israel" decided in order to build bridges between arabs and Jews they will do this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11075326


Belive me, the kuffar are plotting a plot against islaam and they plan to attack it from all angles

[AbuFatimah]

Come on, the kuffar are attacking Islaam left right and centre, of course they will attack zamzam. they evenm attack arabic language:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11181457

however look at a muslim analysis of this so called "research":

http://muslimmatters.org/2010/09/16/...written-wrong/


meanwhile the good hearted people of "Israel" decided in order to build bridges between arabs and Jews they will do this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11075326


Belive me, the kuffar are plotting a plot against islaam and they plan to attack it from all angles

[AbuFatimah]

"Ultimately, they would like to work out how to teach Arabic reading better to children, including helping them to tell letters apart and how to remember which sound goes with which letter"

wow how generous of them. or perhaps they wish to attack anything to do with islaam. The kuffar are trying to give us doubts about islaam. Make no mistake about it

[xs11ax]

:salam:

what is the source for zam zam water? is there an underground river? where does it ultimately go back to?

[Ayaaz]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205

The BBC asked a pilgrim to take samples from taps which were linked to the Zam Zam well and to buy bottles on sale in Mecca, to compare the water on sale illegally with the genuine source.

These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic at three times the permitted maximum level, just like the illegal water which was purchased in the UK.

Assalamoualaikoum

I should have been dead by now....

Ayaz

[NNoor]

"Ultimately, they would like to work out how to teach Arabic reading better to children, including helping them to tell letters apart and how to remember which sound goes with which letter"

wow how generous of them. or perhaps they wish to attack anything to do with islaam. The kuffar are trying to give us doubts about islaam. Make no mistake about it

haha....if Arabic is too hard to read, I wonder how the Chinese learn to read without their brains exploding.

Sorry for going OT.

[Kashmir_85]

This is getting repetitive

[Aseatic]

Is it OK to boil before drinking, like we do for normal tap water here?

[AbuFatimah]

haha....if Arabic is too hard to read, I wonder how the Chinese learn to read without their brains exploding.

Sorry for going OT.

read the other link directly after it. The test was not a real test at all

[NNoor]

read the other link directly after it. The test was not a real test at all

I can't...I get a 404 error when I click on the link.

[AbuFatimah]

I can't...I get a 404 error when I click on the link.

http://muslimmatters.org/2010/09/16/study-concludes-arabic-is-hard-to-read-especially-when-it%e2%80%99s-written-wrong/

if it doesnt work this time, just search on teh website "arabic research" and then go down to the second from bottom search result titled:

Israel’s U. Haifa study concludes: Arabic is hard to read [especially when it’s written wrong]

Its really worth reading inshAllah so please do make the effort, sorry the link dont work

[Musaffir]

Is it OK to boil before drinking, like we do for normal tap water here?

Just drink it in its normal form; this is just another attack on Islam.

If Zam Zam has 3 times more of arsenic content, then its them that need to change what is considered normal levels rather then start doing things with zam zam.

All this anti-Islam propaganda is just paving the way for Dajjal.

[haarisa]

Assalamualaikum brothers and sisters:

This will enlighten you. :) There is only benefit. Apparently those "Arsenic" blends were fake Zam Zam bottles that someone was trying to benefit from. May Allah guide him and us InshAllah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamzam_Well

[nameuser]

:bism:

Zam-zam water has lot of shifa(healing nature) in it. i will drink it without any fear...those who trust in Allah swt. and his messenger(s.a.w.s.) never get any doubt on Allah's bounties...:alhamd:


:jazak:

[Sylheti79]

It's easy to dismiss it as a kuffar-zionist conspiracy, that seems to be a knee-jerk reaction. The wiser response would be to just ask the authorities to test the water at source and publish the results openly. It's a serious accusation, so it should be tested transparently.

[Sylheti79]

Can't they just test the water at source at publish the results openly? These claims are very easily tested.

[OneMuslimBro]

Asalamualaykum.
They do have a an organisation in Saudi that constantly monitors the water, and information from them is available.


As far as I am aware, The Zam Zam water that contains this poison is not actually Zam Zam, its normal water passed on as Zam Zam by people that are trying to deceive Muslims into buying it.

Even If I am wrong, I would still happily drink Zam Zam.

May Allah give us all the ability to see through the mischief of the kuffar

[Musaffir]

The actual fitana now is that someone was asked to bring zam zam from the original source and have it tested; apparently they discovered high levels of arsenic.

It's all part of a bigger scheme, to knock those items of Islam which are used for dawah purposes.

[abdulwahhab]

:salam:

Apparently, there was a contamination last year. Maybe that is to blame.

[study4life]

if that is the case then all the millions of hajjis and people went on umrah should have returned with illnesses :)
possibly the person who collected the sample in a container was already contaminated ?
Any way I won't believe in them. It is their clever way of twisting thing to look bad
They want us to believe what they are showing. So just ignore this news
Remember they spread the news about the risk of swine or bird flu some time ago during hajj.
I tasted the zam zam from about 20 years old reserve and it tasted perfect. no contamination or ilness

[mary1189]

Assalaamualikum,

This is just stupid - arsenic is a natural mineral found in the earth. It is found in many parts of the world. The USA has very high levels of arsenic in their water which apparently can cause bladder, lung and liver cancers. Americans have been drinking this water since only allah knows when and it has never caused them any problems. Arsenic is also used in medications and to treat cancer - its one of those 2 way things.
The levels of arsenic in your drinking water from any natural source could be higher than the recommended levels. This means if you can't drink zam zam water then don't drink any water.

Zam zam has been tested many times in the past and proven to have countless benefits.

also common sense: We have been drinking this water for years, our elders have been drinking this water for years - yet I have alhamdullilah never come across anyone with the cancers described aboved. In fact cancers have become more common only because of greater air pollution, smoking, alcohol, bad diets etc... - none of these points are highlighted by the media becasue they are not targeting a particular religious group - so guess what because its not fun to read and the story won't sell its not important to mention.

here is a really interesting article: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5681

it is written by a man who had a chance to test zam zam water. this was some 40 years ago after some guy in egypt said that zam zam water was not fit for drinking and so it lead to the testing of zam zam water.

[daywalk3r]

http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article386684.ece

Kingdom rejects BBC claim of Zamzam water contamination

By BADEA ABU AL-NAJA | ARAB NEWS
Published: May 7, 2011 23:34 Updated: May 7, 2011 23:35

JEDDAH: Saudi authorities have refuted a BBC report claiming that the Zamzam well in Makkah is polluted and that drinking the holy water could cause diseases such as cancer.

Zuhair Nawab, president of Saudi Geological Survey (SGS), denied the allegation and said his organization has taken adequate measures to ensure the safety of Zamzam well and its water.

The BBC said it had asked a pilgrim to take samples from the Zamzam water taps in Makkah and the Zamzam water being sold in bottles to compare them with the water on sale illegally.

“These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic three times the permitted level, just like the illegal water, which was purchased in the UK,” the BBC said, referring to contaminated holy water sold in some UK shops.

Nawab said his organization has been responsible for monitoring the quality of Zamzam water, which not only concerns Saudi Arabia but the whole Islamic world. “Our experts monitor the condition of Zamzam on a daily basis. Every day we take three samples from the water to carry out tests and studies, which showed that it was not contaminated,” he explained. He said the newly established King Abdullah Zamzam Water Distribution Center in Makkah is equipped with advanced facilities and where bottling takes place in accordance with international standards.

“We apply modern methods for filling bottles after sterilization,” Nawab said.

He said the contamination of the water could have caused while redistributing the water in small bottles by individuals.

Fahd Turkistani, adviser to the Presidency for Meteorology and Environment, said the BBC report focused on bottled water supplied by individuals and not by the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques Affairs. The water supplied by the presidency undergoes close monitoring and ultraviolet rays are applied to kill harmful bacteria, he added.

Turkistani said the Zamzam water contamination could have caused by illegal workers who sell Zamzam water at Makkah gates as they use unsterilized containers. He said the Saudi government has prohibited such illegal sales of Zamzam water.

Meanwhile, a responsible source at the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques Affairs highlighted the measures taken for the protection of Zamzam water saying the water passes through stainless steel pipes to the cooling stations and then to the Grand Mosque.

He said the presidency has given utmost importance for the preservation and distribution of Zamzam water, adding that it is closely monitored around the clock.

According to the World Health Organization, the permitted arsenic rate in natural water is up to 10 microgram per liter. If the rate goes up then the water could be harmful to the kidney and liver and cause cancer. The rate of arsenic in Zamzam water is much less than the amount permitted by the WHO.

Talal Mahjoub, a Saudi, denounced the move to create suspicion about the quality of Zamzam water.

“My family and I have been drinking Zamzam for many years. None of us have suffered any disease as a result of drinking it. If the BBC report was true, Makkans would have suffered many diseases, including cancer, because most of them drink Zamzam.”

The Saudi Embassy in London also issued a statement affirming the purity of Zamzam in Makkah.

“Scientific tests conducted on samples taken from the original source have proved the Zamzam water is good for drinking,” it said, referring to tests conducted on the water at a French laboratory. It said the Kingdom does not export Zamzam water. The King Abdullah Zamzam water complex, which was established in Makkah last September at a cost of SR700 million, can supply 200,000 bottles daily.

[maneatinglizard]

:salam:

They seriously make this claim every few years, hoping it will eventually stick.

I guess that's how low they have to go to knock Islam. Our book is preserved while theirs is corrupted. Our sharia is preserved while their is corrupted. So, what do they have left? Attacking our holy water!

[niazali]

Zam Zam water has a lot of shifa and its a blessing of Allah

[reaz2000]

As'Salam Alaikum,

I agree that the water as it comes out of the original zam-zam well has shifa and cannot have harmful substances in it.

A few years ago, I had several sittings with Engineer Abid who worked as operations engineer there. I was surprised to hear from him that there is a Reverse Osmosis system that takes sea water desatinates it and then adds it to zamzam water before pumping it to different points in the haram! The reasoning he gave was that at some point in the past a "consultant" convinced the saudi government that if this was not done the level of water in zamzam well would become low and eventually it would run out of water. This consultant then managed to sell millions of dollars worth of RO system to the saudis. So today the water that the pilgrims whop drink zamzam in the haram are drinking it in diluted form. So if anything would have to be suspect it will be all this maze of treatment and distribution system, not the zamzam water itself.


Having said all that, I still think that the saudis probably maintain the whole system very well, and there should be no reason to doubt them. I would trust the people actually running the equipment more than a bbc reporter.

Was'Salam

[amr123]

:salam:

Allah :taala: can turn poison into medicine. He has no Limits. Even if there is arsenic in Zam-Zam (which i doubt) it will not harm us by the will of Allah :taala:

Ibn ‘Abbas (ra) reported that the Messenger of Allah :saw: said,
“The best water on the face of the earth is the water of Zamzam. It contains food to satisfy hunger and a cure for illnesses.
The worst water on the face of the earth is the water at Wadi Barhut in Hadramawt, which is like locusts in comparison with other pests. It gushes in the morning and is dry by the evening.”
(At-Tabarani)

[Aseatic]

:salam:

The last post makes me think about the priinciples of homeopathic medicine... water containing a tiny bit of harmful substance cures the effect of that substance...

and does the hadith mean it is haram to drink the water of Wadi Barhut?