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Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
14-11-2004, 12:44 PM
as salamu alaykum

some reminders:

Ayyub (Allah be pleased with him) relates that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him, his family, and companions) said, “Whoever fasts Ramadan and follows it with six days from Shawwal it is as if they fasted the entire year.” [Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, and Ibn Majah; Ahmad transmitted it from Jabir, Muntaqa]

Thawban (Allah be pleased with him) relates that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him, his family, and companions) said, “Whoever fasts Ramadan, and then six days after Eid, it is [like fasting] an entire year. Whoever does a good deed shall have ten times its reward.” [Ibn Majah, Muntaqa]

1. Based on this, the majority of the fuqaha, including the Hanafi, Shafi`i, and Hanbali school, have held that it is recommended to fast six days of the month of Shawwal. [Radd al-Muhtar; Mughni al-Muhtaj Shah al-Minhaj; Kashshaf al-Qina`]

2. It is permitted to fast these six days separately throughout the month, or consecutively, after Eid al-Fitr. [ibid.]

3. It is prohibitively disliked (makruh tahriman) and sinful to fast on Eid day itself. [Radd al-Muhtar]

4. The Shafi`is and Hanbalis state that it is superior to make the six fasts consecutive [Minhaj, Ghayat al-Muntaha]. Khatib al-Shirbini explains the reasoning as being, “In order to hasten to do the good, and because of the problems inevitable in delaying,” such as becoming lazy and not actually fulfilling this sunna in the end, though he points out that the sunna is fulfilled by both consecutive and non-consecutive fasting of six days in Shawwal. [Mughni al-Muhtaj]

The later Hanafi scholars differed as to which is better, fasting the six days consecutively or non-consecutively, though neither is disliked and both fulfill the sunna. [Radd al-Muhtar] However, it would be agreed that those who fear not fulfilling the recommendation due to laziness, forgetfulness or other excuses, should hasten to fast the six days consecutively immediately after Eid al-Fitr.

5. The reward is akin to having fasted obligatory fasts the entire year days, according to Buhuti, Shirbini, and others.

Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) said that the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) said, “The strong believer is better and more beloved to Allah than the weak believer, though there is good in both. Be avid for that which benefits you. Rely on Allah and do not deem yourself incapable…”[Muslim 4816, Ibn Majah 76, Ahmad 8436]

Imam Nawawi (Allah have mercy on him) explained that the ‘strength’ in this hadith refers to, “One’s determination and ability in matters of the next life.” [Sharh Sahih Muslim]

And Allah alone gives success.

[ref: Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar `ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar 2.125 Bulaq ed.; Khatib al-Shirbini, Mughni al-Muhtaj Sharh al-Minhaj 2.184-185; Buhuti, Kashshaf al-Qina` 2.237-238]


1. If one fasts any 6 days (even makeups) in Shawwal, one gets the reward of performing the sunna of fasting six days of Shawwal, as the fuqaha have stated..

2. If one does the voluntary fasts first, and the makeups after, this would have more reward, though, if circumstances permit.

3. It is not obligatory to perform one's makeup fasts before performing voluntary fasts, though one should not perform the latter in a way that unduly delays finishing one's makeups. This depends on one's circumstances and adeptness at fasting regularly.

Walaikum assalam,

Faraz Rabbani

and my maliki contribution since it has not been mentioned:

it is permissible to fast the six days FROM Shawwal, as the hadith states, not necessarily all in Shawwal... so in effect 6 days of fasting from Shawwal, anytime until before the next Ramadan - subhanallah!! the beauty of ikhtilaf!!

Yahya said that he heard Malik say, about fasting for six days after breaking the fast at the end of Ramadan, that he had never seen any of the people of knowledge and fiqh fasting them. He said, "I have not heard that any of our predecessors used to do that, and the people of knowledge disapprove of it and they are afraid that it might become a bida and that common and ignorant people might join to Ramadan what does not belong to it, if they were to think that the people of knowledge had given permission for that to be done and were seen doing it. [Muwatta - Imam Malik]

in fact, it is makruh to join six fasts together straight after eid...

"The popular position in the Maliki school states that fasting 6 days in Shawwal is
makruh if one openly does so, connects these six days to Ramadan, and consecutively keeps fasts on six days without a break in between them. If one does not do all of these three things, then it is not makruh to fast in Shawwal." [www.guidinghelper.com]

Sadiq
16-11-2004, 05:57 PM
*bump*

Come on, pass the hadiths to your friends...sms, text them, e-mail them...

Lets not waste this chance...

"..it is as if they fasted the entire year."

justdidit
20-11-2005, 03:24 PM
:salam:

During Ramadan I stopped eating whenever the TV announced sehri time ended. I still dont know how that time is calculated.

Anywayz, for Shawaal fasts: what time does sehri ends? does it end at sunrise time just like fajr time ends at sunrise?

Also is there a specific dua in arabic for starting fasts? Or an intention in the heart ok?
jazakAllahKhairun in advance.

justdidit
20-11-2005, 09:17 PM
:salam:

During Ramadan I stopped eating whenever the TV announced sehri time ended. I still dont know how that time is calculated.

Anywayz, for Shawaal fasts: what time does sehri ends? does it end at sunrise time just like fajr time ends at sunrise?

Also is there a specific dua in arabic for starting fasts? Or an intention in the heart ok?
jazakAllahKhairun in advance.


anyone?

Gajji
21-11-2005, 12:16 AM
Anywayz, for Shawaal fasts: what time does sehri ends? does it end at sunrise time just like fajr time ends at sunrise?
I'm not sure if you typed that by mistake or not but sehri ends at the beginning of Fajr time, just like in Ramadan.


Also is there a specific dua in arabic for starting fasts? Or an intention in the heart ok?
jazakAllahKhairun in advance.
It is enough to have intention in the heart. There is a sunnah dua for starting the fast in Ramadaan which can be found here (http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa/dua1/Ramadan_dua.html), but obviously, you're talking about the Shawaal fasts so that would be a bit different! I tend to just replace "Ramadaan with "Shawaal" in the dua.

Hope that answers your question(s) :cheesygri

justdidit
21-11-2005, 12:55 AM
I'm not sure if you typed that by mistake or not but sehri ends at the beginning of Fajr time, just like in Ramadan.


It is enough to have intention in the heart. There is a sunnah dua for starting the fast in Ramadaan which can be found here (http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa/dua1/Ramadan_dua.html), but obviously, you're talking about the Shawaal fasts so that would be a bit different! I tend to just replace "Ramadaan with "Shawaal" in the dua.

Hope that answers your question(s) :cheesygri

jazakAllahKhairun
may Allah taala reward you.

Umar
17-12-2005, 11:33 PM
and my maliki contribution since it has not been mentioned:

it is permissible to fast the six days FROM Shawwal, as the hadith states, not necessarily all in Shawwal... so in effect 6 days of fasting from Shawwal, anytime until before the next Ramadan - subhanallah!! the beauty of ikhtilaf!!



Wa alaikum salam

Hmmm, that is interesting. Are you sure of that? I was always told that it is in Shawwal. Optional fasting, of course.

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
18-12-2005, 06:04 PM
Are you sure of that? I was always told that it is in Shawwal. Optional fasting, of course.

you were probably told by a shafi'i or hanafi, thats why.

the hadith goes ' min al-shawwal '....

'min' in arabic in this hadith could mean from or in. imam malik said it meant from. in fact, i think he considered it bidah to fast 6 consecutive days in shawwal.