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Tanya
22-05-2007, 03:15 PM
I know some of you probably don't believe in this, but I believe it does exist.
Does anyone know how a person can find out if someone has done Jadoo on them? Are there any signs to look out for?

umm_madina
22-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Assalamualikum,

My sister,

I hope you are well.

This response is from sunnipath:

Black magic (sihr) is something that definitely exists and causes harm to people. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was also afflicted with black magic.

A Jew by the name of Labid ibn Asim who outwardly posed to be a believer (munafiq) carried out black magic on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). He took the hair of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and made eleven knots and placed it under a rock in a well called Zarwan. The effect of this was that it created uncertainty in the mind of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to whether he had done or not done certain things (although this had no effect on his religious and prophetic obligations). At times the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) felt he had accomplished something yet he had not done so and vice versa. The angel Jibra’il informed the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to what had occurred and came down with the two Surahs, namely Surah al-Falaq and Surah an-Nas. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) together with the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) went to the well and removed the knotted hair. As each verse was recited, the knots untied miraculously. At the eleventh knot, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was relieved from the effects of this black magic. (See: Tafisir Ibn Kathir & Ma’arif al-Qur’an)

Thus, scholars mention that the recitation of the Mu’awwazatayn (the two Quls: al-Falaq and al-Nas) is very beneficial in the removing of and protection from black magic. One should make a habit of reciting these especially when retiring to bed and after the Fardh prayers. There are many virtues of these two Surahs mentioned in the Ahadith.

Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) narrates that whenever the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) would become ill, he would recite the Mu’awwizat (Surah al-Falaq & Surah an-Nas) and blow over himself. When his illness was aggravated, I used to recite these two Surahs (and blow my breath) over him and make him rub his body with his own hand, for its blessings. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4728)

Apart from these two Surahs, the recitation of Surah al-Fatiha, Ayat al-Kursi, and last two verses of Surah al-Baqarah is also very beneficial.



Moreover, the famous Tibi’i Ka’b al-Ahbar (Allah be pleased with him) states: “Had it not been for the phrases that I recite regularly, the Jews would have turned me into a donkey (m: out of black magic). It was said to him: “What are these phrases?” He replied:

(Transliteration): “A’uzu bi wajhillah al-Adhim alladhi laysa shay’un a’dhamu minhu wa bi kalimatillah at-tammati allati la yujawizuhunna barrun wa la fajir wa bi asmaillah al-husna kulliha ma alimtu minha wa ma lam a’lam min sharri ma khalaqa wa bara’a wa zara’a.”

Translation: “I seek the protection of Allah the Great; He, than whom there is nothing greater. And I seek the protection of the perfect words of Allah which no man, virtuous or evil, can even transcend; and I seek the protection of all the beautiful names of Allah, those of them which I know and those which I do not know, from the evil of everything He (Allah) created, to which He has given existence, and which He has spread (over the earth or universe).”

(Recorded by Imam Malik in his al-Muwatta, 2/541, no. 2737)

Thus, the above supplication can be very beneficial in the removing of the effect of black magic.

Also, the consuming of Ajwa dates has been prescribed by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as a remedy for black magic.

Amir ibn Sa’d narrates from his father that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “He who eats seven Ajwa dates every morning, will not be affected by poison or magic on the day he eats them.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 5130)

The above are just some of the methods in removing the effect of black magic that have been prescribed in the Sunnah, thus one may resort to any of them. There are also other remedies besides the above, but time does not allow me to mention them all.

Finally, before parting, I would like to state that undoubtedly black magic is something that exits but it is observed that many people experience some type of downfall or illness and quickly jump to the conclusion that somebody has carried out black magic and start pointing fingers at others. If a child refuses to marry someone whom the parents want him/her to marry, then the parents begin to regard it to be the cause of black magic. Similarly, if the relations of the husband and wife turn sour, the first assumption is that it must be black magic that was carried out by such and such person. Black magic is regarded to be the cause behind every minor and major illness.

This type of understanding is incorrect. One should not be too hasty in concluding that the cause of a problem is black magic, because more often than not, black magic has nothing to do with the problem.

Secondly, due to this, many people have made it a business, in that they deceive people in making them believe that they have some sort of black magic done upon them, thus they are charged with a massive sum for the treatment. People have made thousands in this business.

Thus, one should be very careful in these matters, for in it rests the benefit of this world and the hereafter. Do not be too hasty in determining that the cause behind the problem is black magic. However, if there is substantial evidence such as the sudden break of illness, etc, then one may determine whether it is the cause of black magic or otherwise. And in the case of being afflicted with it, one must primarily turn to Allah Most High and resort to the remedies mentioned in the Qur’an and Sunnah. Also, if the help of others is sought, then one should only turn to those who are god-fearing and pious.

May Allah Most High guide us all towards the right direction, Ameen.

And Allah knows best.

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=3018&CATE=115

umm_madina
22-05-2007, 03:54 PM
Nothing good nor bad takes place except by the will and decree of Allah Most High. Even if all the satans of the world from the biggest to the meanest assembled to hurt a gnat it would not take place unless Allah Most High decreed it. Therefore stand fast on the commands of Allah Most High and ask Him relief of any duress together with following His commands regarding this particular situation as revealed to the Prophet, upon him peace, namely to recite Surat al-Baqara especially its last three ayats and the Mu`awwidhat for protection (last three Suras). The du`a is in the Adhkar under ruqya and/or ta`wiz and is: A`udhu billahi wa bikalimaatihi al-tammaat. As for the second question: knowledge of sihr or magic does not indicate that one practices it since many of the awliya had and do have knowledge that pertains to it and how to deflect its harm with the help of Allah Most High. This is evident also when there are no dunya ties involved and when the interaction is for the sake of Allah and He knows best. Was-Salam,

sunnipath.

Tanya
23-05-2007, 09:06 AM
sunnipath.

Thanks alot for that :)

I'm worried though, I think I might have it. Besides me going crazy over that guy, there's loads of other things that are going on in the family, but I can't mention them on here. Also, whenever I used to pray, no matter how depressed I was, I used to feel peace in my heart after praying, like i've had a heavy burden taken off my shoulder, you know that fresh breezy feeling.

But I don't get it at all anymore, I pray and I still feel no peace I just cry like my efforts are going to waste and I feel exhausted like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. I think of suicide and death alot, I can't even help myself in everyday things like at work, trying to get a better job, trying to make something of myself.

I passed my driving test two years ago and I still haven't bought a car, I can't cook, I want to learn but I just feel like everything is too much for me. The tinyest little things can feel like I will never be able to achieve them. I have no self control and I'm very indecisive. I cry and get so emotional over the smallest things like when someone makes talks about their relationship and how happy they are, I get so jealous and start feeling sorry for myself because I have nothing compared to most of the people I know.

Sometimes I get so angry, frustrated and emotional that I cry and scream and feel like ripping my hair out because I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel :cry:
I know somethings not right, someone has done something to me I know they have, it's happened before in my family, but how do I find out? I don't know any religious people who can help.

AbulAsad
23-05-2007, 12:30 PM
As salamu Alykum Sister Tanya,

Black Magic is something which really exist, generally known as "Kala Ilm" in the Indian sub continent and these days its a good source of income for many magicians who claim to solve any problem of there customers, mainly an offensive way to hurt anyone. At last the result is heavy loss!

Regarding all the mess going around in your life i seriously thinks that you need a help either from any Islamic scholar or from your family member whom you can consult openly. I believe that to every end there is a new start so don't give up and fight situations in the name of Allah, Allah is far more powerful than any magic and those who have company of Allah they cannot get hurt by anything else in this world inshaAllah.

was salam.

biscuitcrumbs
23-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Salams,

I really discourage that you think someone has done something to you, rather you should focus on the fact that only Allah is the one who possesses the ultimate power over all things.

If you feel, so disenchanted with life, probably it is best that you focus on what is your purpose in life, only then you will be able to live an enrichening life.

"And I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship Me".(Quran, 51:56)

It is to attain Allah's pleasure by following the shariah, as in the external forms of worship and as in following the internal forms of worship by the laws perscribed for this for one's character, intentions. Islam is to submit totally and not just for rituals only.

You need to live your life comprehensively as a Muslim, only then will you be able to enjoy living.

Tanya
24-05-2007, 01:00 PM
Salams,

I really discourage that you think someone has done something to you, rather you should focus on the fact that only Allah is the one who possesses the ultimate power over all things.

If you feel, so disenchanted with life, probably it is best that you focus on what is your purpose in life, only then you will be able to live an enrichening life.

"And I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship Me".(Quran, 51:56)

It is to attain Allah's pleasure by following the shariah, as in the external forms of worship and as in following the internal forms of worship by the laws perscribed for this for one's character, intentions. Islam is to submit totally and not just for rituals only.

You need to live your life comprehensively as a Muslim, only then will you be able to enjoy living.



So why do so many Muslims, who are not fully devoted to their religion, live life in harmony? They don't pray, they don't cover up, they have boyf/girlf, they hardly fast in the month of ramazan, and when they do they don't pray they just fast and think it will be excepted.

Why are these people living so happily? Don't tell me they will get punished in the hereafter because you don't know that, they might be just as happy as they are now.

Maybe I should give up praying and stop covering up and go and get myself another boyfriend......... it works for everyone else.

biscuitcrumbs
24-05-2007, 01:53 PM
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So why do so many Muslims, who are not fully devoted to their religion, live life in harmony? They don't pray, they don't cover up, they have boyf/girlf, they hardly fast in the month of ramazan, and when they do they don't pray they just fast and think it will be excepted.

Why are these people living so happily? Don't tell me they will get punished in the hereafter because you don't know that, they might be just as happy as they are now.

Maybe I should give up praying and stop covering up and go and get myself another boyfriend......... it works for everyone else.

Salams,

Firstly, you should not be judging yourself to "many Muslims".
Secondly, you don't know that they are living their life in harmony do you? It may appear to be so to you, if you think living in harmony is having a boyfriend, not fasting in Ramadan; disobeying Allah's commands. Do you really think this? You want Allah's help, but you have to work for it.

And no, I will not tell you they will get punished in the hereafter, you are correct, I really don't know that. But I do know that, we are accountable for our behaviour inwards and outwards. In fact those "many Muslims" may not have to wait for the hereafter to get punished, their punishment can get acted out in this world.

Please be patient and recieve the rewards for this. Forget everybody else. To each his own.

umm_madina
24-05-2007, 02:46 PM
Asssalamualikum,
Sister Tanya,

Alhamdulilah! I have read your post and I shall attempt to convey some things which you can do for protection. Yes, you might need to seek some professional (spiritual) help.

In the meanwhile, try to stay in wudhu as far as possible.


I used to recite these two Surahs (and blow my breath) over him and make him rub his body with his own hand, for its blessings

This you can do as well. A Moulana giving a lecture on Jinns had stated that also reciting Ayatul Kursi and blowing it on a glass of water and then drinking it, can help.

I am really sorry, I don't presently have access to anyone who is very advanced in the field of assisting others who has this problem. . Insha-Allah maybe someone else can give you contact with such a person.

Sister, I would also suggest that you fast nafl, if you can do so and when breaking your fast, beseech almighty Allah to remove whatever evil is afflicting you.

Also, you said, you don't feel joy in the things you do like cooking, driving etc, I suggest try starting everything In the Name Of Allah.(Bismillah).

When you say, "Bismillah" you act in Allah's name, it binds you to the Omnipotent and Merciful One, who posess infinite Power and Mercy.


Jabir RA is reported to have said that when:

Bismillahir-rahmanir- rahim

In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

was revealed ,the clouds gave way by moving to the East, the winds ceased blowing, the oceans became calm, the creatures prepared themselves to listen, the shayatin were pelted with fire from the heavens and Allah swt, swearing an oath by His Honour, declared: Anyone who says this name of mine upon anything, i will surely impart barakah in that thing.

Ad Durrul Manthur and Ibn Kathir

The reason for the above is as follows: in Bismillah there are 3 names of Allah SWT:

1) Allah SWT which is his personal name indicating that all projects can only be initiated by the will of ALlah swt.

2) Rahman (kind) which is his attributive name indicating that only Allah SWT can keep that project intact and existent (guarding it against destruction).

3) Rahim (Most Merciful) which is also his attribute name indicating that only Allah SWT can, through his mercy and grace, enable any person to derive benefit from that project.

This clearly proves that any project beginning with:

Bismillah-rahmanir-rahim

In the name of Allah,the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

Will be granted barakah (blessings) from the beginning till the end.

Reciting Bismillahir-rahmanir-rahim, transforms what we do into Ibadah.

Say it before you eat, drink, walk, talk, write, go to bed, wake up. (By the way there are duas for these as well)

A Hadith Qudsi

Rasulullah SAW said that the angel Jibreel AS made a mention of this hadith under oath that he heard it from the angel Mika'il AS under oath who heard it from the angel Israfeel AS under oath that Allah SWT said; "By my honour, grace and grandeur, whoever reads:

Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim
In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

and surah al-Fatiha jointly once, then you be witness that i shall not burn his tongue and i will save him from the fire as well as the punishment of the grave and on the day of Qiyamah.

more info found here (http://www.ummah.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-94097.html)
Take care,
wa'salam

hiker
26-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Thanks alot for that :)

I'm worried though, I think I might have it. Besides me going crazy over that guy, there's loads of other things that are going on in the family, but I can't mention them on here. Also, whenever I used to pray, no matter how depressed I was, I used to feel peace in my heart after praying, like i've had a heavy burden taken off my shoulder, you know that fresh breezy feeling.

But I don't get it at all anymore, I pray and I still feel no peace I just cry like my efforts are going to waste and I feel exhausted like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. I think of suicide and death alot, I can't even help myself in everyday things like at work, trying to get a better job, trying to make something of myself.

I passed my driving test two years ago and I still haven't bought a car, I can't cook, I want to learn but I just feel like everything is too much for me. The tinyest little things can feel like I will never be able to achieve them. I have no self control and I'm very indecisive. I cry and get so emotional over the smallest things like when someone makes talks about their relationship and how happy they are, I get so jealous and start feeling sorry for myself because I have nothing compared to most of the people I know.

Sometimes I get so angry, frustrated and emotional that I cry and scream and feel like ripping my hair out because I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel :cry:
I know somethings not right, someone has done something to me I know they have, it's happened before in my family, but how do I find out? I don't know any religious people who can help.

salam

I used to feel very similar - your symtoms are same as I felt - until I met some aamils/raqee's, on this yahoo group - Alhamudullila, after speaking to them, they pointed me in the right direction - now I have made a 90% recovery - and slowly heading towards a full recovery - insh'allah. I was suffering from black magic, from what you have written, it looks like you are too......Where do you live, I know some good aamils/raqees in the UK.

Anyway, here is a link, to their group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RuqyaShariyah

Also check this link as well - very informative:
http://www.quranichealing.com/bp.asp?caid=61


You need to speak and seek guidance from a aamil/raqee - you can recite much as you want, you won't recover easily - I used to recite, loads and loads - all that will happen, you will control your emotions - won't recover or break the spell - you need to see an aamil..

:ws:

hiker
26-05-2007, 11:22 PM
These are all the relevant verse's - you should recite them for curing oneself from black magic - Once you start to recite these verse's regularly, you will start to get a reaction - just continue reciting them....But also try and find a righteous aamil/raqee..


Hope all this helps..


:ws:

smile*
28-05-2007, 10:26 AM
i believe that there is such a thing as black magic, and none can protect you from it ,except Allah.


Btw;do you guys believe in taweez(i'm not sure how to spell)?-those black things ppl hang around their necks

Tanya
04-06-2007, 09:41 AM
i believe that there is such a thing as black magic, and none can protect you from it ,except Allah.


Btw;do you guys believe in taweez(i'm not sure how to spell)?-those black things ppl hang around their necks

Yeah I heard of them, but someone told me it's not good to wear them especially if your young as you do alot of sin without knowing and it's more gunnah because your wearing Taweez anddoing sin. For example, if your wearing it and your swearing or saying something sinful, you forget its around your neck at times.

Tanya
04-06-2007, 09:46 AM
salam

I used to feel very similar - your symtoms are same as I felt - until I met some aamils/raqee's, on this yahoo group - Alhamudullila, after speaking to them, they pointed me in the right direction - now I have made a 90% recovery - and slowly heading towards a full recovery - insh'allah. I was suffering from black magic, from what you have written, it looks like you are too......Where do you live, I know some good aamils/raqees in the UK.

Anyway, here is a link, to their group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RuqyaShariyah

Also check this link as well - very informative:
http://www.quranichealing.com/bp.asp?caid=61


You need to speak and seek guidance from a aamil/raqee - you can recite much as you want, you won't recover easily - I used to recite, loads and loads - all that will happen, you will control your emotions - won't recover or break the spell - you need to see an aamil..

:ws:

What is aamil/raqee? I've never heard of them :confused:

Also another thing, if someone thinks they have magic on them and they read everything they can to get better, what happens if it's not black magic and they think it is? Does anything happen by reading all that even though you think it might not even be black magic?

oOo Lamia oOo
04-06-2007, 02:20 PM
There is such thing as sihr but as sister Tanya gave a description of her problems I don't think it is black magic. It could be other problems that have come to interfere with the mind such as the WASWAS OF THE SHAYTAAN..

Tanya
04-06-2007, 03:03 PM
There is such thing as sihr but as sister Tanya gave a description of her problems I don't think it is black magic. It could be other problems that have come to interfere with the mind such as the WASWAS OF THE SHAYTAAN..



Do you think? :confused:

Ohhhhhhhhhhh I don't know what to think, i'm going crazy not knowing if it's black magic or not..... how do I find out for sure?

oOo Lamia oOo
05-06-2007, 01:11 PM
Don't make assumptions!! Seek refuge from the Shaytaan, make dua and ask Allah swt to lead you to the straight path inshallah!

*BismikAllahumma*
06-06-2007, 04:52 AM
some nice advice on this thread: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18196&highlight=rabbana


waslaam
may Allah Ta'ala, The Merciful have mercy on you and ease ur problems and give u happiness and satisfaction from ur life, as everything is in His control and He is able to do all things, nothing is difficult for Him, and He Hears the duas of every caller. ameen wa salAllahu ala Muhammad.

ur sis in islam
Allah hafiz

Moabubaker
06-06-2007, 04:53 PM
Jadoo/Black Magic/Sihr

Say, I seek refuge with the Rabb of the Morning from the evil of created things; and from the night when it spreads, and from those who blow into knots (practice secret arts), and from the evil of a jealous person. (Surah al-Falaq; 113)

Say, I seek refuge with the Sustainer of mankind, the King of people, Rabb of the people, from he evil of the whisperer who withdraws; he who whispers into the hearts of people; from Jin and human. (Surah An-Naas; 114)

A Jew by the name of Labid did black magic on Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam). He took the hair of Rasulullah and made eleven knots into a date and placed in under a rock in the well called Zarwan. The effect of this was that it created uncertainty in the mind of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) as to whether he had done or not done certain things. At times Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) felt he had accomplished something yet he had not done so and vice versa. Jibraaeel (AS) informed Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) as to what had occurred and brought the above mentioned two Surahs. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) together with the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhu) went to the well and removed the knotted hair. As each Aayat was recited, the knots untied miraculously. At the eleventh knot, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) was relieved. (Tafseer Ibn Katheer vol.4 pg.614; Darul Ma'rifah)

One may wonder, how is it that the Prophet of Allah was affected with Jadoo. He had so much of faith in Allah, how could Jadoo affect him?

The Reality of Jadoo

Jadoo has a natural effect just as the sun has an effect of heat. The Prophets/Ambiyaa (alaihimus salaam) felt the heat on hot days, they felt hungry when they didn't eat, similarly they could be affected with Jadoo as well. But this Jadoo did not interrupt their prophethood status nor was it allowed to interfere with the authenticity of their mission

This World - Cause/Effect

Almighty Allah Ta'ala created this entire universe and he has designed its functions according to the cause and effect procedure. Everything has a cause which subsequently has a natural effect. When the sun shines, it is hot, when snow falls it is cold. Heat and cold are the natural effects of the sun and snow. Similarly, if a person is stabbed with a knife, he will bleed. Bleeding is a natural effect of stabbing. If a person is thrown in the center of the sea, he will naturally drown if he cannot swim.

Our Belief

Although this world functions according to the cause/effect procedure but the effect of anything lies in the Will of Allah. If Allah Wills, the effects of causes will exist but, if Allah does not will, then in -spite of the means we adopt, the effects will not exist.

Jealousy

Jealousy is an internal sickness, like pride and anger. If it is not cured, the consequences of jealousy are very dangerous to oneself and the society in general. The jealous person is actually objecting to Allah's decree: "Why did You give him wealth, why did You give him position?. Why haven't I been given this wealth and position?"

Such a person needs to strengthen his Imaan on Taqdeer. Everything is predestined. When a person is in the womb of his mother, his sustenance, life and position is already written. Everything happens according to the absolute Knowledge of Allah (Taqdeer). Such a person must repeatedly remind himself that he is helpless in determining other peoples' affairs. The affairs of people are controlled by Allah Ta'ala. Ponder upon the Hadith of Jealousy.

Hadhrath Abu Huraira (RA) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) said; Beware of jealousy, for jealousy eats up good deeds just as fire eats up (burns) wood (Mishkat 46 pg. 248)

Hadhrath Zubair (RA) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) said, 'The sickness of the previous nations will creep into you, i.e. jealousy and hatred. These sicknesses are shavers; I don't say they shave hair but they shave Deen". (Mishkat 2 Pg. 428)

A Jealous person is void of the spirit of Deen. His heart is always filled with enmity and malice. He does not perform any Ibaadat. His wish is to harm others.

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) asked, "Do you know who is a pauper?" The Sahaaba (RA) replied, 'A pauper is he who does not have a Dirham or Dinar (no money) nor has he any wealth'. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) said, "A pauper in my Ummah is he who comes on the day of Qiyaamat with Salah, Fast, Zakaah But has verbally abused someone, unjustly eaten another person's wealth, hit someone, etc. (for such a person) his good deeds will be taken and given to the other person. If that person's good deeds are finished, then his sins will be laden upon him and will be put in the Hell Fire. (Mishkat 2 pg. 435)

A jealous person should ponder upon all these Ahaadith and rid himself of the evil of jealousy. If he does not, then jealousy can make him stoop to low levels, to the level of Jadoo and oppressing his brother. Imagine the grief and anxiety caused through Jadoo. The affected person is oppressed, thus the jealous person is endangering his hereafter. If he only strengthens his Imaan on Taqdeer, he could contain himself.

How to save oneself from Jadoo

If a person is affected by witchcraft, it is Sunnah to cure himself. The method of cure must be carefully chosen. Many people (Muslims and non-Muslims) claim they can cure. But one must choose a person who strictly adheres to the Qur'an and Hadith. One should abstain from going to a non-Muslim. However, in a case of desperation, if no Muslim is found, he may go to such a person who does not utter words of Kufr and Shirk. The person who cures is not any extraordinary person. He is just a Doctor who specializes in a specific field. Just as a Doctor could make a mistake in his diagnosis, the Aamil too can make a mistake. His words cannot be regarded as absolutely correct. Whilst treating, if somebody's name comes out, it is not certain that the person did Jadoo, etc. Similarly, the taweez the Aanmil gives may be used. The Sahaaba asked Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alaihi Wasallam) about Taweez. He said, 'it is a power from the power of Allah' It is a means of cure, but Allah is the ultimate Shafee (Curer).

Finally

Many people experience some downfall and quickly jump to the conclusion that somebody made Jadoo and start casting doubts on different people. Therefore, one should not be too hasty in concluding that the cause of a problem is Jadoo because more often than not, Jadoo has nothing to do with the problem.

Allahu 'Alim (And Allah knows best)

:ws:

Regards,
Mohammed Abubaker

umm_madina
06-06-2007, 06:26 PM
Allahumma la taira illa tairuka, wa la khaira illa khairuka, wa la ilaha ghairuka.

"Oh Allah there is no portent other than Your portent, no goodness other than Your goodness, and no God other than You."

Citadel of the Believer (Invoations from Quran & Sunnah) - by Sa'id bin Ali Wahaf Al-Qahtani.

Tanya
07-06-2007, 08:46 AM
Thank you all for your replies.

I still don't know how to find out if I have Jadoo on me :$

teacher/learner
12-06-2007, 06:41 PM
Thanks alot for that :)

I'm worried though, I think I might have it. Besides me going crazy over that guy, there's loads of other things that are going on in the family, but I can't mention them on here. Also, whenever I used to pray, no matter how depressed I was, I used to feel peace in my heart after praying, like i've had a heavy burden taken off my shoulder, you know that fresh breezy feeling.

But I don't get it at all anymore, I pray and I still feel no peace I just cry like my efforts are going to waste and I feel exhausted like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. I think of suicide and death alot, I can't even help myself in everyday things like at work, trying to get a better job, trying to make something of myself.

I passed my driving test two years ago and I still haven't bought a car, I can't cook, I want to learn but I just feel like everything is too much for me. The tinyest little things can feel like I will never be able to achieve them. I have no self control and I'm very indecisive. I cry and get so emotional over the smallest things like when someone makes talks about their relationship and how happy they are, I get so jealous and start feeling sorry for myself because I have nothing compared to most of the people I know.

Sometimes I get so angry, frustrated and emotional that I cry and scream and feel like ripping my hair out because I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel :cry:
I know somethings not right, someone has done something to me I know they have, it's happened before in my family, but how do I find out? I don't know any religious people who can help.

That fresh feeling you speak of, this is Allahs kindness on you, completely keep your thoughts on Allah as much as you can when you pray and then you'll be sure to feel free from pain, quit any doubts.

ALLAHS FACE IS WHEREVER YOU TURN YOURSELVES.

Salaam

Tanya
13-06-2007, 09:42 AM
That fresh feeling you speak of, this is Allahs kindness on you, completely keep your thoughts on Allah as much as you can when you pray and then you'll be sure to feel free from pain, quit any doubts.

ALLAHS FACE IS WHEREVER YOU TURN YOURSELVES.

Salaam

I try so hard to concentrate, believe me I try and force myself to think of Allah while I'm praying, but I find it almost impossible. Instead, I think about that guy, or my family and friends, the things that are happening to me, getting scared and worrying, when I should be fully concentrating on Allah (SWT) :cry:

teacher/learner
14-06-2007, 11:42 AM
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So why do so many Muslims, who are not fully devoted to their religion, live life in harmony? They don't pray, they don't cover up, they have boyf/girlf, they hardly fast in the month of ramazan, and when they do they don't pray they just fast and think it will be excepted.

Why are these people living so happily? Don't tell me they will get punished in the hereafter because you don't know that, they might be just as happy as they are now.

Maybe I should give up praying and stop covering up and go and get myself another boyfriend......... it works for everyone else.

Sister, you speak as though this is the real real and the final world. Allah put us here to worship, those who enjoy themselves now are only deceived by the shaiytaan himself, read the story of "the meeting of shaiytaan and Muhammad(SAW)" on the inspirational stories and history page on this site.


"And Allah will let them enjoy themselves(sinners/kafir) for a little while!"

Rasoolullah(SAW) has said that: "To a disbeliever (or loveful sinner) this world world is heaven but, to a (true) believer this world is a prison."

(Islam will get their true Junnah, even the prophets had their hard times on Earth and they bore more weight than anyone in mankind, on their minds and hearts, but they still stood up in Allahs name and now have been given Allahs promise, junnah)

"While we try worshipping haRD TO Allah, Allah places a test on front of us...", such as our brothers or sisters or others enjoying themselves with this world, WHICH MAY CAUSE US TO WANT THE SAME BUT, THOSE WHO FIGHT IT SHALL GET EVEN BETTER WHEN AND WHEREVER ALLAH WILLS.

"O Allah there is no true comfort but in the afterlife" (Muhammad (SAW)

teacher/learner
14-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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So why do so many Muslims, who are not fully devoted to their religion, live life in harmony? They don't pray, they don't cover up, they have boyf/girlf, they hardly fast in the month of ramazan, and when they do they don't pray they just fast and think it will be excepted.

Why are these people living so happily? Don't tell me they will get punished in the hereafter because you don't know that, they might be just as happy as they are now.

Maybe I should give up praying and stop covering up and go and get myself another boyfriend......... it works for everyone else.

On the day of judgement Allah will ask the man who was the richest person on Earth, "DID YOU SEE ANY GOOD IN YOUR LIFE" HE'LL REPLY: "NO MY LORD" AND THEN WILL BE DIPPED IN THE FIRE OF HELL AND THEN THE POOREST MAN ON EARTH WILL BE ASKED, "DID YOU SEE ANY EVIL IN YOUR LIFE" reply:"NO MY LORD" AND THEN WILL BE GIVEN A DIP IN A SPRING OF JUNNAH.

The poor servan t of Allah seems so upset to the eyes but if only we could feel what they feel when they worship Allah.

The richest man and sinning man seems so happy the eyes but surely we feel as incomplete as even he does, though he has the world (which is dying slowly)

teacher/learner
14-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Thank you all for your replies.

I still don't know how to find out if I have Jadoo on me :$

And ask Allah to remove all evil from you whether hidden or known.

"ALLAH KNOWS WHAT IS BURIED IN THE HEART"

Tanya
11-07-2007, 09:44 AM
Salaam everyone.

I went to see someone religious. She was recommended to me by a friend. She asked for my name full name and my mothers full name, she went quiet while she was either reading something or looking at something, and then, the first thing she said was that someone has definitely done magic on me. The thing is, I didn't even go and see her reagrding magic, I just went o see her so she can tell me what to read and talk to her.

I was telling her my problems and that I can't get over this guy no matter how hard I try, I also told her that I don't find peace in praying anymore, and thats when she took my name and mothers name to tell me someone did something. She didn't tell em who it was. I believe her because my friend was having very bad problems in her fmaily and they thought someone did jadoo on them, they kept going back to this same lady but she told them she has checked many times but she can't find that anybody has done anything to them. But, with me she said it straight away that someone has done jadoo on me.

She told me there is something in my house, now I don't know what she ment and silly me I didn't even ask her to explain because I was so scared after hearing that someone has done jadoo on me, I trying to take it all in while she was saying allsorts, she said something got to me in the middle of the night when I woke up to go to the toilet. And, again I didn't ask her what it was, everything is a blurr to me. I'm so silly I didn't even ask her anything in detail, like how long this will last, how long my depression will last, if this thing is harmful, everything was just blurred after hearing the first thing she said. :cry:

Anyway, she gave me a Taweez to wear at all times, she also gave me a paper with something written on it in arabic, she said this is a bath taweez, she said I need to soak it in water and then put that water over me while having a bath.

She also told me to light up a folded paper and circle it around my head a few times, then let the paper burn and let the smoke go towards both my wrists.

Does anyone know what she ment when she said something got to me when I was going toilet in the middle of the night, and that I have something in my house? :confused:

the thing is I don't know if she ment there is something in ym mums house or the one I just moved into, because this depresson has been goign on for years so I guess she metn my mums house right? That's where it probably started....... :cry:

Tanya
11-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Thanks for your help.

I told her I won't remember all these things that i'll hvae to do, so she said I'll show you how to circle the fire round your head. Before doing do, she told me that once she has done this for me, at least some of this jadoo will go away.

So she started circling the lighted rolled up paper around my head. After she finished she told me again that now she's done some it for me, hopefully u will feel a bit better already.

This was on Sunday that I saw her, yet I still feel exactly the same as I did before I went to see her. I knwo it doesn't work straight away (or does it), but she did say some of it will go, it hasn't though, I'm worried. :cry:

Julaybib
11-07-2007, 12:36 PM
As Salaam Alaykum.

It all sounds quite scary.I Pray that Allah cures you of whatever it is.

May Allah protect you, from the effects of magic the whisperings of shaytan, the evil eye, jealousy and malice from others, may he provide you with all that is good of the dunya and akhira, may he bless you abundantly with the blessed gifts of,sabr and Shurkr, may your heart be dominated with peace and tranquility, may all your difficulties be transformed into ease and comfort ameen.

IMprisONEd
11-07-2007, 02:08 PM
as salamu alaikum,

I was just reading your post sister and I wanted to inform you that the so called 'religious' woman is getting help from the jinns and what she prescribed for you is not according to Quran and Sunnah; so, my sincere advise to you is that please stay away from such people and practices and do not put your life and imaan at risk inshaAllah.

She asked for your mother's name which is a clear indication of someone who uses black magic. How she knew your situation without you telling her? She had a little chat with your jinn companion when she went quiet.

If I were you, I would tear up the taweez (the paper with writings on it) and then burn it because it could also harm you if you follow up her instructions. May Allah protect you, ameen.

I wouldnt be so concerned if someone had done black magic or not...it could be hassad or evil eye from someone but whatever the case, there's a way you can cure yourself with Allah's kalaam and Help. But if you really want to find out if it's black magic or not then please consult a person who adheres and treats according to Quran and Sunnah.

I recommend performing ruqqiyah on yourself or ask someone with good iman to read it over you. (read the ‘ways of treating sihr’)

Here’re some links from islamqa .com that might be helpful... do the search on the Qs#.
the url didnt work for some reasons.

Sihr and its types:
Question #: 9432

How to deal with sihr/black magic:
Question #: 11290

Ways of treating sihr (black magic):
Question #: 12918

An interesting forum discussion on black magic:
http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1462866#post1462866


At the end of the day, remember it is Allah who cures so seek cure and protection from Him only. Know that if Allah does not wish harm for you, the whole mankind and jinns can get together to harm you but will not be able to do so.

wassalam

Tanya
12-07-2007, 11:20 AM
as salamu alaikum,

I was just reading your post sister and I wanted to inform you that the so called 'religious' woman is getting help from the jinns and what she prescribed for you is not according to Quran and Sunnah; so, my sincere advise to you is that please stay away from such people and practices and do not put your life and imaan at risk inshaAllah.

She asked for your mother's name which is a clear indication of someone who uses black magic. How she knew your situation without you telling her? She had a little chat with your jinn companion when she went quiet.

If I were you, I would tear up the taweez (the paper with writings on it) and then burn it because it could also harm you if you follow up her instructions. May Allah protect you, ameen.

I wouldnt be so concerned if someone had done black magic or not...it could be hassad or evil eye from someone but whatever the case, there's a way you can cure yourself with Allah's kalaam and Help. But if you really want to find out if it's black magic or not then please consult a person who adheres and treats according to Quran and Sunnah.

I recommend performing ruqqiyah on yourself or ask someone with good iman to read it over you. (read the ‘ways of treating sihr’)

Here’re some links from islamqa .com that might be helpful... do the search on the Qs#.
the url didnt work for some reasons.

Sihr and its types:
Question #: 9432

How to deal with sihr/black magic:
Question #: 11290

Ways of treating sihr (black magic):
Question #: 12918

An interesting forum discussion on black magic:
http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1462866#post1462866


At the end of the day, remember it is Allah who cures so seek cure and protection from Him only. Know that if Allah does not wish harm for you, the whole mankind and jinns can get together to harm you but will not be able to do so.

wassalam

Oh no are you serious :eek:

I'm getting more and more depressed knowing the help I'm trying to get for myself, only deepens my depression and is making things worse me :mad: :cry:

I cannot think of anyone or heard of anyone who doesn't ask for the mothers name etc etc. There are too many things they ask which people say are not allowed, what am I supposed to do. Also, because she is a woman, I found it easier to go to her as I can't take anyone with me if I go to a man, no one will come with me. :mad:

I'm trying my best to get rid of this illness and it's just getting worse and worse!!! Everything I'm doing is pointless then right? :mad: :cry:

I don't care anymore, I'm sick to death of trying things to make myself better and then not feeling any better. I'm gona carry on seeing this lady, I haven't got time or any strength to go and search for someone else. I'm so tired, I'm tired of all this and I don't know what else to do!!! :cry:

If things get worse, then I guess Allah (SWT) wants me to be hurt and punished, so be it.

Julaybib
12-07-2007, 02:31 PM
As Salaam Alaykum.

My dear sister pray that Allah relieves you of your difficulties, do not say that Allah wants to punish me and so be it, we have to be careful about what we say, for we end up inviting the anger of Allah upon ourselves.

At the moment you are sick and tired of being sick and tired. Other People cant understand why you cant "Just deal with it" and "Pull Yourself together" except of course its not that easy is it, the mind is a fog and even the simplest task seems like a massive challenge.

On top the Brain suffers from information overload too much advice can be as useless as too little. Which Zikr is the best one to recite which Ibaada is the best one to practice, you either end up confused and do nothing, or you try a different one each day hoping it will be the magic formula. Except the situation dont change, in desperation we look for quick answers we are told someone has done jadoo to us. So we think maybe it is so afterall I have been suffering for many years, So then some people look for an exorcist to give taweez except either the formula they provide does not work or it only works for a short while. Then they start searching for other people to remove the Jinn they keep going from one person to the next.

An Illness or mental, emotional condition takes a long time to develop. It also takes a long time to remove. There are no quick solutions.

We are prone to be hasty, Look at the number of sites offering Quick RICH schemes, Become a millionaire overnight, earn a thousand pounds a day. A lot of people purchase them hoping their is a magic formula. Even though in their hearts of hearts they Know that You dont get rich overnight you have to work hard and put effort in to achieve success.

So my dear sister I understand what you are going through I my self am prone to the same feelings of despair.

I would personally recommend contacting a qualified Shaykh or Maulana sahib to seek advice, as to what to do. If you seek advice from ordinary people you only end up more confused.We need to seek advice from people who are qualified in religious knowledge.

I would personally recommend Shaykh Riyadh Ul Haq he is a young Scholar raised in the U.K. speaks eloquent english. You could contact him via email,
at Al Kawthar Academy.org. you dont need to visit him directly. If not him than any other Scholar of religious knowledge you feel comfortable with you should contact.

Another thing is we feel embarassed in relating our problems with someone of religious knowledge we feel that they will judge us. Our Shaykhs deal with the worst kind of problems daily rather being Judgemental you will find the opposite to be the case.

I do not know whether visiting the lady you talked about is right or wrong. Seeing that their is conflicting advice pehaps it is best to contact some one qualified to advise you.


I pray that Allah removes all the difficulties in your path ameen.

Ya_Rahimo
20-07-2007, 04:13 AM
Assalamoalaikum

it does exist

Intrepid
10-03-2009, 01:04 AM
Absolutely pathetic, the number of times people try and justify their inadequacies due to black magic is disgraceful. Just get a grip of yourself and sort your life out.

ummuseif
17-12-2009, 07:00 PM
Either black magic or not, it doesn't really matter. Because everything that happen is in the will of Allah. If it is black magic and you go and see someone, it WILL NOT make you better if Allah say you won't.

Sister,

Calm down. Open your heart and mind. Go back to Allah and clear every single intention.

Sister,

are you married? I guess not. You need to get someone and get married. If you live in western country, and you are at the age of need to married, than that what need to be done. All this always happen to the girl that not married when the their age had come to the age for them to get married. It's all the hormone go up and down. You need a cuddle from a man, name husband!

Sister,

You said that you want to leave prayer, leave your good amal only because you see others who not doing it in good situation?

If we pray but we still believe in other power rather than Allah, it similar to mean nothing. It's not just pray, cover up and doing all other good deeds, but out firm believe and yakin of Allah. To 100% YAKIN only Allah that had power. But if we still had some believe that other power / black magic /jadoo had done something to you, means our believe had been divided into many part. And we can't divided our believe in any other part. We need 100% YAKIN.

You need a good company as well that can keep you busy and keep your self tired.! So, you had no time to think about what ever you had now.

Ansari
19-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Mufti Zarwali in his Q&A session today after the Friday Prayer answered a question about a person who was unconscious because of black magic. In his answer he explained in 2 ways how he could be healed with the help of Allah. He said in a very optimistic way that it works. Listen to it yourself:

http://serveislam.com/Media/JAU/008_Bayan_Juma_Tul_Muabarak_04_Rabiul%20Awal_1431_ H_19_Feb_2010.mp3

Starts at 1:17:00

muminah
19-02-2010, 09:11 PM
I know of a muft in India who is a muhaddith and treats black magic, and he asks for one's mum's name too. Does that mean he isn't legit?

Usama2
20-02-2010, 03:15 AM
On the day of judgement Allah will ask the man who was the richest person on Earth, "DID YOU SEE ANY GOOD IN YOUR LIFE" HE'LL REPLY: "NO MY LORD" AND THEN WILL BE DIPPED IN THE FIRE OF HELL AND THEN THE POOREST MAN ON EARTH WILL BE ASKED, "DID YOU SEE ANY EVIL IN YOUR LIFE" reply:"NO MY LORD" AND THEN WILL BE GIVEN A DIP IN A SPRING OF JUNNAH.

The poor servan t of Allah seems so upset to the eyes but if only we could feel what they feel when they worship Allah.

The richest man and sinning man seems so happy the eyes but surely we feel as incomplete as even he does, though he has the world (which is dying slowly)

Salam alaikum

Brother, what is the source of this observation that will take place on the Day of Judgement?
Please provide the source from which you cited this.

fitnaantivirus
20-02-2010, 05:57 AM
Black Magic does have its effects..please go throug hthis intresting discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LpWvO3GvQ

Abu Zayd al-Atharee
20-02-2010, 07:06 AM
Thanks alot for that :)

I'm worried though, I think I might have it. Besides me going crazy over that guy, there's loads of other things that are going on in the family, but I can't mention them on here. Also, whenever I used to pray, no matter how depressed I was, I used to feel peace in my heart after praying, like i've had a heavy burden taken off my shoulder, you know that fresh breezy feeling.

But I don't get it at all anymore, I pray and I still feel no peace I just cry like my efforts are going to waste and I feel exhausted like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. I think of suicide and death alot, I can't even help myself in everyday things like at work, trying to get a better job, trying to make something of myself.

I passed my driving test two years ago and I still haven't bought a car, I can't cook, I want to learn but I just feel like everything is too much for me. The tinyest little things can feel like I will never be able to achieve them. I have no self control and I'm very indecisive. I cry and get so emotional over the smallest things like when someone makes talks about their relationship and how happy they are, I get so jealous and start feeling sorry for myself because I have nothing compared to most of the people I know.

Sometimes I get so angry, frustrated and emotional that I cry and scream and feel like ripping my hair out because I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel :cry:
I know somethings not right, someone has done something to me I know they have, it's happened before in my family, but how do I find out? I don't know any religious people who can help.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Guidelines for one who thinks he/she has been afflicted with Magic

1. Sit with all family members and discuss and find out everything relating to dreams, bodily pain, hearing voices and whispers in the form of an actual voice. The discussion should include any past experiences as well as the present.

2. The TV should be switched off for 40 days, although it is better to get rid of the TV altogether.

3. Ensure that the house is clean and fragrant. A thorough cleaning of the whole house should be conducted, making sure that even the dust from the corners of the house are cleaned. Incense sticks can be used for fragrance and Musk is recommended.

4. All members of the family should eat 7 ‘Ajwa dates each morning on an empty stomach. If ‘Ajwa dates are not available, then any dates that originate from Madinah may be used in the same manner. (7 dates each morning on an empty stomach)*

5. All family members should gather, after having recited upon the children and putting them to sleep, and recite the whole Qur’an upon a bowl of water. All family members should participate, even if they know only a few chapters of the Qur’an. One may recite and then blow on the water, but it is preferable to recite with your lips close to the water in such a manner that you are continuously breathing into the water whilst reciting. If the whole Qur’an cannot be recited, then at the very least al-Baqarah should be recited.*

6. The water should be sprinkled throughout the house including the garden.* Also, all family members should take a bath using the same water, this can be achieved by adding a small amount of the water to regular tap water.

7. After having completed much of the above, if any T’aweez’s are found or any one is in the habit of using one then they should be disposed of by burning them. All family members should resort to Qur’anic recitation morning (after fajr) and evening (after Maghrib), especially surah al-Falq and an-Naas.

8. All family members should recite Qur’an in the house and make it a habit of praying Salaah in the house, of course this does not include obligatory prayers which should be performed in the Masjid. If recital of the Qur’an isn’t possible then at the very least al-Baqarah should be played using a CD or cassette etc.

9. All family members should ask Allah (dua’) to relieve them of this affliction. The best time for dua’ is the last portion of the night after performing a lot of sajdah (tahajjud prayer).

10. All family members should spend money in charity and perform Zabeehah (slaughter) and feed the poor with the meat.*

*All points with an asterisks next to them are considered very important.

Specific Guidelines for one who has been afflicted by al-’Ayn/Nazar

Place your right hand on the person’s forehead by saying Bismillaah and then recite the following (loudly) over the person:

Surah al-Faatihah 7 times

The first 10 verses of Surah al-Baqarah

Aayat al-Kursi

The last 3 verses of Surah al-Baqarah

The whole of Surah al-Kahf (if one cannot recite the whole Surah, then one should recite until the story of the companion of the garden)

The whole of Surah al-Mulk

The whole of Surah al-Qalam

The last 3 Surahs of the Qur’aan

(All of the Verses and Surahs should be recited 3 times each except for Surah al-Faatihah)

One should also recite any known dua’s for Hasad & ‘Ayn.

After all of the above one should blow on the person and blow on some water. One should then ask the person to drink the water & have ghusal with the water every other day. Do this for as many days as possible until the person is cured, inshallah.

Usama2
20-02-2010, 11:35 AM
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim


Salaam everyone.

I went to see someone religious. She was recommended to me by a friend. She asked for my name full name and my mothers full name, she went quiet while she was either reading something or looking at something, and then, the first thing she said was that someone has definitely done magic on me. The thing is, I didn't even go and see her reagrding magic, I just went o see her so she can tell me what to read and talk to her.

I was telling her my problems and that I can't get over this guy no matter how hard I try, I also told her that I don't find peace in praying anymore, and thats when she took my name and mothers name to tell me someone did something. She didn't tell em who it was. I believe her because my friend was having very bad problems in her fmaily and they thought someone did jadoo on them, they kept going back to this same lady but she told them she has checked many times but she can't find that anybody has done anything to them. But, with me she said it straight away that someone has done jadoo on me.

She told me there is something in my house, now I don't know what she ment and silly me I didn't even ask her to explain because I was so scared after hearing that someone has done jadoo on me, I trying to take it all in while she was saying allsorts, she said something got to me in the middle of the night when I woke up to go to the toilet. And, again I didn't ask her what it was, everything is a blurr to me. I'm so silly I didn't even ask her anything in detail, like how long this will last, how long my depression will last, if this thing is harmful, everything was just blurred after hearing the first thing she said. :cry:

Anyway, she gave me a Taweez to wear at all times, she also gave me a paper with something written on it in arabic, she said this is a bath taweez, she said I need to soak it in water and then put that water over me while having a bath.

She also told me to light up a folded paper and circle it around my head a few times, then let the paper burn and let the smoke go towards both my wrists.

Does anyone know what she ment when she said something got to me when I was going toilet in the middle of the night, and that I have something in my house? :confused:

the thing is I don't know if she ment there is something in ym mums house or the one I just moved into, because this depresson has been goign on for years so I guess she metn my mums house right? That's where it probably started....... :cry:

Bismillahr Rahmanir Rahim

Salam alaikum

There is a level of misinformation and misguidance regarding Sihr and Jadoo here on this thread.
Yes, the Prophet (saaw) encounterd the case of the Jewess who practiced sihr. But unless you ALSO encountered this Jewess, then there is little certainty as to WHAT IS SIHR AND WHAT IS MADE UP HOCUS POCUS, GARBAGE TO FOOL THE MASSES!!!!

Who can line up all the potions, actions, sayings, practices today classified as sihr/magic and be able to distinguish what is sihr and what is manmade garbage?

How can you decipher between the garbage and real sihr passed down through the generations?

If you are frightened of it, its sihr? If it makes you feel bad, its sihr? Getting pricked by the thorns of a rose stem makes you feel bad even while you feel good smelling the rose? Is that sihr? There are all kinds of chemicals today that if you digest them or smell them, they can make you sick, dizzy, nauseous. Are they magic?

At some point, if your thinking resorts to SIHR JABOO AND JINN AS explanations in the majority of your life, then its SHALLOW EMOTIONAL THOUGHT rather than rational thought, and Islam is a Deen based on DEEP RATIONAL THOUGHT. Just as a person develops bad habits, a person can develop bad thinking.
Ask yourself, are you a deep thinker who contemplates things deeply, or are you a shallow thinker who jumps to conclusions prematurely, or who bases his/her thought on feelings?


For eons, men and women have been inventing nonsense, shirk, and garbage and claimed it was sihr/magic to frighten people for all kinds of purposes, including to make a profit selling cures, to gain power in a community, or they were drunk or intoxicated on drugs, or they were mean, etc etc etc.

EVERYTHING THAT IS TODAY DESCRIBED AS SIHR IS NOT NECESSARILY SIHR.

There was a documentary of a town in Niger wherein a business man had money stolen from his shop. He had 3 male workers from another country who the people did not know and whom he suspected. He allegedly told them: stick your hand in boiling water, if you did not steal the money, your hand will not be burnt. A young man did it and his hand suffered 3rd degree burns- peeling skin, serious tissue damage. The business man blamed this first man. At this point, people who knew of this demanded that the business man take these men to the local Islamic judge/qadi who would judge this matter. The judge saw this and said that the entire community will be blamed for allowing this nonsense to occur. The businessman then claimed he did not know why the men did this. The 3 men said nothing. He ordered the injured man to go immediately to the doctor (he had not done so yet). He asked the 3 men if they had stolen the money and they said they did not. And he found out that the businessman had not properly secured the money, just putting it under a book in an open shop where anyone could come by and take it and several people had known he kept his money like that. He ordered the businessman and the workers report this all to the police. So the matter of who stoled the money could not be solved, but the matter of a man forcing others to boil themselves in a test that was irrational and based on the ignorance of the people was far worse.

In Africa, witch doctors are increasing in power in communities, even within Muslim communities. They make outrageous claims about things and people are afraid to challenge their claims out of fear he will cast a spell or do magic on them.

This brings to mind the story of the magician who entertained the court of the khalifa Waleed ibn Abdul Malik. He was reported to have severed a man's head completely from his body and put it back on the man as if nothing was wrong and appeared alive. The audience was amazed and shocked and frightened. The people said "subhanna Allah he can bring the dead back to life." But a sahabi, Jundub al Azdee happened by curiosity to see this show. He went and got his sword and when the magician began his show again, he cut the magician's head off and exclaimed " if this magician is true, let him put his head back on and bring himself back to life!" (reported in Bukhari (rh) work of history).
Jundub did that because the Prophet (saaw) said " the prescribed punishment for the magician is that he be executed by the sword" as reported as sahih in at Tirmidhi. There are many such hadith and athar wherein the sahaba (rah) executed those who practiced magic.

Why? Does it not claim powers for an individual which defy natural laws and reasoning?

Sheikh `Abd al-Rahmân al-Barrâk said:
Magic is prohibited in Islam and the magician is a disbeliever. Allah says: “They followed what the devils attributed to Solomon’s kingdom. Solomon did not disbelieve but the devils disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things as came down at Babylon to the angels Hârût and Mârût. But neither of these taught anyone (such things) without saying: ‘We are only for trial; so do not disbelieve’. They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone by it except by Allah’s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them, and they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 102]. Magic is one of the major sins. The Prophet (peace be upon them) ennumerated seven deadly sins and counted magic as one of them [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim]. In another hadîth, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever approaches a soothsayer and believes what he says, disbelieves in what was sent to Muhammad.” A soothsayer is but one type of magician. We are not allowed to go to magicians for any reason. Learning magic is also prohibited; it is a Satan’s knowledge. Moreover, we are obligated to forbid the existence of magic in our societies and condemn such practices. We should, in fact, report magicians to the authorities where doing so will bring legal action against them.

And there are many ruqya that one should recite daily to protect against Shaytan and his effects.

And Allah knows best.

Misty_Water
20-02-2010, 01:15 PM
Assalaam Alaikum,

Just as a side point, maybe you should also go see a PRACTICING MUSLIM psychiatrist. I whole heartedly believe in the islamic ruqya prescribed to overcome black magic/ jinns, but sometimes these situations can cause a pathophysiological change in a person, so medication might help overcome some of the symptoms. The end cure is with ALLAH (swt).

Perhaps get in touch with Dr. Asim (Talib al Habib).

Wassalaam.

fitnaantivirus
20-02-2010, 02:40 PM
Assalaam Alaikum,

Just as a side point, maybe you should also go see a PRACTICING MUSLIM psychiatrist. I whole heartedly believe in the islamic ruqya prescribed to overcome black magic/ jinns, but sometimes these situations can cause a pathophysiological change in a person, so medication might help overcome some of the symptoms. The end cure is with ALLAH (swt).

Perhaps get in touch with Dr. Asim (Talib al Habib).

Wassalaam.

A point well made...I think both kind of treatments should be tried out..
The brother might want to have a look at this discussion also :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-261JAXQqY

bugmenot
10-09-2011, 11:53 AM
Moreover, the famous Tibi’i Ka’b al-Ahbar (Allah be pleased with him) states: “Had it not been for the phrases that I recite regularly, the Jews would have turned me into a donkey (m: out of black magic). It was said to him: “What are these phrases?” He replied:

(Transliteration): “A’uzu bi wajhillah al-Adhim alladhi laysa shay’un a’dhamu minhu wa bi kalimatillah at-tammati allati la yujawizuhunna barrun wa la fajir wa bi asmaillah al-husna kulliha ma alimtu minha wa ma lam a’lam min sharri ma khalaqa wa bara’a wa zara’a.”

Translation: “I seek the protection of Allah the Great; He, than whom there is nothing greater. And I seek the protection of the perfect words of Allah which no man, virtuous or evil, can even transcend; and I seek the protection of all the beautiful names of Allah, those of them which I know and those which I do not know, from the evil of everything He (Allah) created, to which He has given existence, and which He has spread (over the earth or universe).”

(Recorded by Imam Malik in his al-Muwatta, 2/541, no. 2737)

Thus, the above supplication can be very beneficial in the removing of the effect of black magic.

Only upping this thread to post the aforementioned du'a in arabic as it may help somebody :insh: :

وَحَدَّثَنِي عَنْ مَالِكٍ، عَنْ سُمَىٍّ، مَوْلَى أَبِي بَكْرٍ عَنِ الْقَعْقَاعِ بْنِ حَكِيمٍ، أَنَّ كَعْبَ الأَحْبَارِ، قَالَ لَوْلاَ كَلِمَاتٌ أَقُولُهُنَّ لَجَعَلَتْنِي يَهُودُ حِمَارًا ‏.‏ فَقِيلَ لَهُ وَمَا هُنَّ فَقَالَ أَعُوذُ بِوَجْهِ اللَّهِ الْعَظِيمِ الَّذِي لَيْسَ شَىْءٌ أَعْظَمَ مِنْهُ وَبِكَلِمَاتِ اللَّهِ التَّامَّاتِ الَّتِي لاَ يُجَاوِزُهُنَّ بَرٌّ وَلاَ فَاجِرٌ وَبِأَسْمَاءِ اللَّهِ الْحُسْنَى كُلِّهَا مَا عَلِمْتُ مِنْهَا وَمَا لَمْ أَعْلَمْ مِنْ شَرِّ مَا خَلَقَ وَبَرَأَ وَذَرَأَ ‏.‏