View Full Version : What was our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saas) saying on abuse against women?
04-06-2007, 02:32 PM
Assalamo aleikom wa rahmatu Allah wa barakathu
I have a rather discussable question conserning something i've read which made me question the truth in it. The question is as the topic says:
"What was our beloved Prophet (saas) saying on abuse against women?"
Something that shocked me, while also beeing the reason that made me write her with hopes that some brothers or sister could help, is these following traditions:
Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."
Now, are these sahih traditions fabricated?
Please provide sourses as much as you can for what you write. Try to make difference between your own thoughts and proof from the Islamic Sharia, The Holy Quran or Sunnah.
05-06-2007, 04:00 PM
07-06-2007, 02:02 AM
If there are any scholars here who would be able to shed some light on these ahadith, regarding what the meaning of them could be, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
also, if anyone here has connections with a scholar, please ask them about it.
JazakAllah Khair guys.
Yahya Ibn Sal
07-06-2007, 02:19 AM
What do you mean if they are authentic? They are in posted from sahih, and likewise i have seen them else where in books from the same books(bukhari, muslim) so... Are you asking if they are sahih, like someone might be saying they are from these books but they are really not? Or are you saying that are they not sahih even though they are in sahih? a bit confusing...
07-06-2007, 03:05 AM
I apologize brother,
I edited my post so that it would be less confusing.
To be honest, I kinda just skimmed through the first post so fast that I guess I didnt see that the hadiths were from Imam Bukhari and Muslim
07-06-2007, 03:50 AM
The first hadith has been poorly paraphrased (as it is not being quoted exactly from Bukhari) and the second has not been put into context.
There was another thread on here a few months back wherein the second hadith was explained quite well which put it into context. The striking of the Rasul (peace be upon him) was not one meant to cause pain or to discipline, but rid one of Shaitaani influence.
I will see if I can find that thread insha'allah and post a link to it.
Yahya Ibn Sal
07-06-2007, 01:21 PM
As for the hadith concerning Aisha radiallahu anha, I have it in a book that says.
Related by way of Harun ibn saed al ayle that abdullah ibn wahb informed him that ibn jareeh informed him on the authority of abdillah ibn kathir al mutlab that he heard muhammed ibn qays sai "I hear Aisha talking and she said 'shall i inform you of something about me and the prophet?' we said yes' she said When it was my turn for the messenger of Allah alayi salaam to spend the night with me, he put on his upper garment and took of his shoes and put them by his bed, he spread the corner of his lower garment on his bed and then laid down untill he thought that i had gone to slee. He took his upper garment slowly and put on his shoes slowly, and then he opened the door, went out, and closed the door slowly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my lower garment, and then i follow his steps until he reached al Baqee(a graveyard close to the masjid) He stood there for a very long time, and then lifted his hands three times, and then he started to head back, So i started to head back. He hurried up, so i hurried up, He ran, so i ran. He came to the house as i came to the house, however i beat him there, so i entered and as i lay down in bed he entered the house and said'
"Oh Aisha why are you out of breath?"I said it is nothing,
He said"Tell me or the most kind the ever aware will tell me"
I said Messenger of Allah may my father and mother be ranson for you, and then i told him' He said, Was it your shadow that i saw in front of me?
I said "Yes". He struck me on the chest, which hurt me and said:
'Did you think that Allah and his messenger would wrong you?'
"I said Whatever people conceal Allah the mighty and majestic knows, He said
"Yes jibreel came to me when you saw me he called me and hid from you. I responded to his call, but i hid from you. He did not come in because you were not dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I ddid not want to wake you up because i was afraid that you would feel abandoned' He said" Your lord has comanded you to go to go to the inhabitants of al baqee and seek forgiveness ofr them.
'I said, How can i speak to them o messenger of Allah?"
He said,Say Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city from among the believers and the muslims, and may allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us and those who will come later, and we shall God willing join you"
12-06-2007, 12:02 PM
Assalamo aleikom WR WB
Thanks all for the answers, I'm still confused though.
Sunni_Student786 - it would be great if you could find that thread!
Jazak Allah khayr
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