Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller

[Usman]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

I am new to this world of sunniforum. I spent most of my time trolling the Pathless'(So-called Salafi) sites, searching for truth in their words, (but guess what?lol) . I've been seeing his name and his nice articles for quite some time now over the net. So would like to know more about him.

First off, what is his Aqeedah and creed? Does it concur with the scholars of Deoband School of Thought? The Tack of Deoband (http://darululoom-deoband.com/english/aboutdarululoom/the_tack.htm)

I've seen his nice articles in refutation of Ibn Hazm Zahiri,and Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab An-Najdi(RA), but would also like to know what he thinks of Hafiz Ibn Taymiyyah(RA), like Muslim/Disbeleiver/Khariji, what?

JazakAllah
wasSalaam
Usman

[IlyasLahoz]

assalamu alaikum,
the following link is the most complete repository of the Shaykh's writings online -may Allah preserve him.
http://masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/default.htm

See also: http://suhba.org/tasawwuf/2004/public/
for the Shaykh's audio lectures.

As you can read and hear in the above referrenced material, the Shaykh is Ash'ari in aqeedah.
As for: "Does it concur with the scholars of Deoband School of Thought?", perhaps someone who knows what that entails could answer that better than I.
And Allah knows best.

[Mossy]

It differs on some positions, but is accepted by the Maturidi school of aqeedah. Search on the forum if you want elucidation as to these areas of disagreement.

[salman]

Salamu Alaikum

Shaikh Nuh is an Ash'ari in creed, Shafi in Fiqh and a Shadhili in Tasawwuf.

The Deobandi Ulema are Maturidis, Hanafis and usually follow the Chishti, Naqshbandi, Suhrawardi and Qadiri orders.

Maulana Rashid ahmad Gangohi said in his Fatawa Rashidiyya (Darul Ishaat Ed: 2003) on Pg:4,

"All the Madhabs are on Haq."

Similarly, Maulana Ubaidul haq who is Fadhile Deoband said in Tahdhib Al Aqaid Sharh Aqaid al Nasafi on Pg 9:

"Both Imam Ash'ari and Maturidi are Imams of Aqidah"

With this in mind - Shaikh Nuh is considered one of the Ahly sunnah Wal Jamaah and a scholar that can be followed.

Wallahu A'lam

[salman]

:salam:

Though this is not for me to ask; I have been confused about who the murshid/sheikh of the Shadhili Darqawi order is… was not Sheikh Nuh appointed by his teacher Sheikh ‘Abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri (ra)? Then why was bayah given to Sheikh Mustafa al-Turkmani after his death? Or am I confusing orders, and/or one is the murshid and the other his khalifah? Or is the silsila different from the way the naqshi tariqas have it i.e. one murshid with many khalifas? or even many Sheikhs?

:salam:

Salamu Alaikum

It is common for people to take Bayah with someone else after the passing away of their Shaikh or to merely keep the company of other shuyukh. shaikh nuh said in his obituary of Shaikh Shaghouri:

" Only a few of those he authorized originally took him as their sheikh, kept his company in his active years, entered his khalwa, and attended his readings to the brethren before he stopped for health reasons in 1996; while most were previously trained or authorized by other sheikhs or only kept his company in his final years after his illness. "

and

"On Friday 11 June 2004 the Damascus brethren of Sheikh ‘Abd al-Rahman put their hands in the hand of Sheikh Mustafa al-Turkmani at the Nuriyya Mosque as their head."

Wallahu A'lam

[Omar HH]

I know this is a weird question but, is he in a higher "rank" in scholarship than Shaykh Hamza Yusuf or Shaykh al-Bouti?

And is Shaykh al-Bouti member of a tariqa?

Jazakallahu Khayrun

[salman]

Salamu alaikum

Ill insha'Allah ask a dear friend of mined who has been in the Tariqa for a while.

For point 1, there can be more then one murshide Kamil. My teachers Shaikh had 3 of them. Generally speaking, a shaikh usually tells his student that "go take bayat from people" (Shaikh Hussain told me this)

For point 2 i cant comment, ill have to check.

As for 3, i dont understand how the Shaikh is not emphasises when he is the one to be listened to and followed. Shiakh Shaghouri did not give Ijazahs to those who did not share the same views as him about certain matters. Nor did he just pas out Ijazahs without making sure the person being issued it is 100 percent ready. Similarly, Shaikh Nuh also never gives out Ijazahs. His favourite Murid, Sidi Hamza Karamali (as he states in his own words) does not even have Ijazat in the Tariqa yet.

Wallahu A'lam

[Lisanulhaq]

Assalamu Aleykum,

A murid of Shaykh Nuh told me that, basically, whoever Shaykh Abdur Rehman gave khilafa to, can "steer their own boat." I have seen this in many tariqas, it doesnt work like that in NAqshbandi tariqa, a khalifa is a muqaddam who takes the students to the grandshaykh. But some tariqas, once khilafa is given, they are their own shaykh, and can take murids, and guide them, and give them khilafa themselves.

The disadvantages to this is, many shaykhs may be khalifas, but not murshid kamil. Nafs can get in the way of the shaykh BIG time, as I have seen with my own eyes, where the shaykh looks for murids, becomes a status thing, or a money thing, or a family thing, where the shaykh gives khilafa to his son, even though he is not fully prepared to carry it. It's how many tariqas die out. Most important, gotta search for the wali kamil, and cling yourself to him.

[Lisanulhaq]

Assalamu Aleykum,

I agree, its a matter of spending time wiht the shaykh and absorbing as much as possible. Im sure you're right, you seem more knowledgable about that more than me. In any case, the goal of the tariqa is Allah, if our tariqa doesnt give us any ijazas, but helps us to get better and better in serving Allah (swt) and his Prophet (saw), then inshaAllah that's all we need. I appreciate your input and points of view, so thank you for that.

Lisan ul-Haq

[Lisanulhaq]

Assalamu Aleykum Bro,

Thanks for the compliments regarding my shaykh. He is truly unbelievable, mashaAllah, and his karamaat are subtle but amazing. I dreamt of Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani (ra) when I was searching for a tariqa, and he sent me to him, alhamdulillah.

[Hamoudeh]

:salam:

I am looking for information about Shaykh Keller's Ijazat, and hope some of the brothers or sisters can help out. Any confirmations, additions, details and/or expansions of the following points would be very welcome:

1) Tasawwuf, he took the Shazili Tariqa from Shaykh `Abdul Rahman al-Shaghouri.
2) Hadith, Tabarruk from Shaykh Muhammad Ibn `Alawi al-Maliki
3) Hadith, he studied under Shaykh Shu`ayb Arna`out.
4) Fiqh, certificate for `Umdat al-Salik from al-Azhar in translation and notes.
5) Fiqh, 2 scholars from Syria and Jordan but I don't recall the names.

Any help is welcome, jazzakumallah khayr wa-barakallah feekum

Mitsalaam

[Hamoudeh]

Na`am, Shaykh `Abd al-Wakil Durubi that was his teacher in Damascus. I found the text which mentioned him now, it also mentions Shaykh Nuh `Ali Salman al-Qudah, probably Fiqh as well. So did he receive Ijazat in Fiqh or Hadith from Shaykh Arna`out? Are there any other scholars not yet mentioned? Barakallah feek.

Ma`salam

[noor]

Assalamu Aleykum Bro,

Thanks for the compliments regarding my shaykh. He is truly unbelievable, mashaAllah, and his karamaat are subtle but amazing. I dreamt of Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani (ra) when I was searching for a tariqa, and he sent me to him, alhamdulillah.
:salam:
Brother is this Shaykh Nazim Mangera or someone else?

[muslim786]

:salam:
Brother is this Shaykh Nazim Mangera or someone else?
He is referring to Grand Shaykh Nazim Adil Al Haqqani (db)