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07-12-2004, 11:55 PM
I know how the Qur'an is uncreated, but I think I am sort of confused on the concept. I know that Allah (SWT) is beyond time and space and the actual Qur'an is uncreated, but that means the Qur'an is eternal and the speech of Allah (SWT) can someone explain to me this concept in Ashari theology?
08-12-2004, 11:48 PM
I'm interested too... what is Ashari ?
By the way I don't understand why you say that the Quran being uncreated, it follows that it is eternal.
If you say it's uncreated, the "eternity" is only on one side of the timeline (the past), right ??
09-12-2004, 08:48 PM
Ashari is one of the three Sunni schools of belief. They are basically the same belief with different names and only differ in 12 small points (At least the major two of them). It's the beliefs of the early Muslims which were finally put to writing. Famous Ashari's include Imam Nawawi, and Imam Ghazali.
Maturidis are the other school and the third school is the Hanbali school of belief.
They are esentially the same belief but differed in small points such as:
Asharis say that those who do not hear the message of Islam or hear a distorted message of it are not accountable for their actions on Yomul Qiyamah.
Maturidis say that the belief in God without association is so clear that one who does not beleive that before dying is not saved.
At least thats my understanding, PLEASE if I am wrong correct me.
Maturidi Aqeedah can be found here: http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/fiqakbar.htm
Ashari Aqeedah can be found here:http://www.ghazali.org/works/gz-faith.htm
Every Muslim who is part of Ahlul Sunnah wa Jama'ah has one of these Aqeedah's whether he knows it's called that or not.
This is opposed to Salafi or Wahhabi aqeedah which is a deviated sect and considers Allah (SWT) to be anthropromorphic. Or Shi'a aqeedah, Mutazila aqeedah, etc.
09-12-2004, 08:49 PM
And I found the answer to my question here:
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