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UmmIbrahimIsa
10-12-2004, 08:34 PM
Assalamu alaikum wr wb
How can you tell if a child tells you that they have seen a budda scaring them and scaring them into doing certain bad things, that they are telling the truth?
My younger son whose almost 3, claims that certain scary things are telling him to do bad things in the house, like hit his brother, bite him, punch him, or do certain things in the household...
Now I don't know if it's a phase or if it's normal. with the not me phase. Yet others have said it's normal and it happens to all the kids, yet some of his behavior is st range.
One minute he's fine and playing and all happy then the next minute he's in one of those terrible cranky moods like don't mess with me or else type of moods.
those that know me personally have met him and know what im talking about, you greet him sometimes he'll smile at you and greet you back but sometimes he'll just give you this really grin evil type of look like what are you looking at and stop looking at me...
and i dont know what to do, we've recited the 4 quls and aytul kursi yet some ppl have said it's nothing sis and it'll go away soon enough its just a phase yet it's hard to tell cuz one min he's fine and then the next min he's like screaming and shouting and telling you to get away from him, and he's claiming that the buddah is telling him to say these things out and sometimes i see him fighting out in the air or talkign to something there but it's not there and it's freaky...
im like subhan'Allah what's going on? and he'll be like isa told me to do this and im like but you're isa, and he's like i know im isa but the bad isa told good isa to do this be bad to iby.... buddah say bad isa be bad to iby...
and im scared cuz we dont know what to do, shall we take him to a dr to get it checked out or shall we just ignore it and hope it goes away as its a phase and all kids go through that..
jazakuAllahkhairun.
p.s. im serious about this, not joking around and i have no reason to joke about this, and i hope anyone that knows me personally doesnt see this as a way of me asking this ? in the wrong way as a bad thing cuz i dont knwo what to do...
Abdullah_Faysal
10-12-2004, 09:56 PM
may its a jinn, or he could be sign of something else,
Allah only knows
jaylen
11-12-2004, 04:13 AM
may its a jinn, or he could be sign of something else,
Allah only knows
that's true sis. If it happens at night then it might be the jinn..Allahu Alim. I read once that the jinn love to come to little children at night, especially when they are outside. The jinn like to play with their minds..again Allahu Alim but see when it happens are where they are when it does. Insha Allah it's nothing but also read quran to them when they sleep, wake, and just all the time sis. Insha Allah khayr
Assalamu-alaikum, I suggest going to the jinn thread, and try the methods of driving the jinns out..
Also, maybe it's not a jinn, maybe you should take your son to a doctor to find out what's going on..not a doctor for physicall illnesses, more like a child psychologist.
Wassalam
Abdullah_Faysal
11-12-2004, 12:05 PM
Does he go to public school?, if yes maybe they are teaching him something outside of islam, I remember this story this kid who a muslim, his homework was to draw a picture of their god.
If he doesn't go to public school, does he go to daycare?
UmmIbrahimIsa
11-12-2004, 04:43 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb
ok.. he's not in school.. he's only 3 years old.. oh well technically he's still 2.. but he'll be 3 in just a few days.... insha'Allah.
i dont know i notice this sometimes in the morning, or sometimes in the evening, mostly in the evenings though he'll be fine one moment but the next he'll be acting real weird and yet he's like it's not me it's the other isa and im like huh? and im holding him, hugging him, and im like its going to be ok, im here for you, dont worry, i love you etc... and im reciting all these surahs to him and making dua'ah to Allah about this condition thing going on and i realize its a test from Allah swt, yet im like what is going on? is this a phase or what...its just freaky you know... cuz he's fine then he's not and he's ok yet he doesnt remember much.
like yesterday we were coming back from somewhere and he threw his teddy bear out the window of the car.....
my friend that was taking me asked should we go back and i said no, but my son insisted it wasn't him that threw it but the other bad isa that did it and that budda (jinn) made him do it, and he'll change his voice to this really hideous evil voice like real deep and raspy like and be like 'throw that now isa.' or 'hit your brother now' and he said budda made me do it and im like isa stop please...whats going on? dont do that...be good...
and its just scary.....
yet later on my son kept crying for his baby (the bear) and how it was hurt badly.....
(side note: we picked up the bear that has some stuffing out of it taken out :( being fixed as we speak... yet he's soo attached to that thing, that sometimes it scares me could that be the jinn in there? he treats it as if it's a real kid, feeds it, changes it, sings to it, rocks it, carries it wherever he goes....discipline's it.... i dont know... when the bear was gone, he took another toy we had and started doing the same thing yet he was crying for the little one) :( i dont know maybe its just me and getting older that i dont remember if this is a kids phase thing of acting out and just being his individual self... Allahu Alim
Does he go to public school?, if yes maybe they are teaching him something outside of islam, I remember this story this kid who a muslim, his homework was to draw a picture of their god.
If he doesn't go to public school, does he go to daycare?
Yes, and also does he watch TV??? On TV there are many programs that the kids make things up from watching that sort of stuff. Like Hafiz said, it could be that he's making all this up to justify his actions and to gain attention. He knows that he can get away from it by saying this type of stuff. The first time he did it, you probably let him go and were easy on him. So, he knows now that he can get away with alot of things by using the 'buddah' as an escape goat!
Allah Ta'ala Always Knows Best.
Was-salaam,
haqqq
Abdullah_Faysal
11-12-2004, 07:49 PM
Yes, and also does he watch TV??? On TV there are many programs that the kids make things up from watching that sort of stuff. Like Hafiz said, it could be that he's making all this up to justify his actions and to gain attention. He knows that he can get away from it by saying this type of stuff. The first time he did it, you probably let him go and were easy on him. So, he knows now that he can get away with alot of things by using the 'buddah' as an escape goat!
Allah Ta'ala Always Knows Best.
Was-salaam,
haqqq
TV I forgot to ask that. Theirs is so much violence on TV, children will begin to understand that violence is a way to solve their problems.
analyzing
12-12-2004, 10:10 AM
Take him out for a coupleeee of dayssss and see if he still acts the same wayyyy.
UmmIbrahimIsa
12-12-2004, 06:28 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb
yes he does watch tv but i usually limit his tv to an hour a day and to depending on what shows... like either dora the explorer, or backyardigans both on nickjr... kids shows... or one day its blue clues and another its something else.. not altogether though....
i dont know... but the buddah part comes from my parents, that get him to do certain things behave etc, before he didnt believe in that stuff... yet he's getting older and for some reason he's freaked out now and they say kids can see jinns at a young age and angels so im thinking something is happening...
Allahu Alim
we'll see
jazakuAllahkhairun.
Silver Sparrow
18-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Do you let him go outside during maghrib? Try keeping the kids in until isha time, make sure you say bismillah and lock all the doors and windows, cover up all food and water vessels. My nephew would get really tearful when they took him out in the garden around maghrib time, and he normally loves it in the garden, so his mum banned him from going out at that time! Try this and see if theres any improvement, insha Allah :)
UmmIbrahimIsa
18-12-2004, 07:48 PM
assalamu alaikum wr wb
im one of those paranoid moms that dont let their kids outside without me being there or them being within my sight.. so if im not outside they dont go outside, unless they're out on the balcony and im in the kitchen....
and esp at maghrib or night, usually 30 mins before maghrib i bring them in...
i never believed in those supersititions until i read the hadith, yet sometimes parents use that hadith as an excuse to keep their kids inside and in line.
jazakuAllahkhairun for all your help..
Hypermodestmuslima
31-01-2005, 11:26 PM
I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I've had experience with certain children who claim to see Jinns. Once the case was brought to a local Alima, and she said...her son was under that habit too. This is usually the case when one of the child's parents have hallucinated in the past, as it isn't usually likely the case that the Jinn has possessed your child. In the case of the Alima, she herself had hallucinated as a child. Furthermore, increase the recitation of Quran in your house, and you ought to check out the Jinn in my house thread inside the Q and A section.
However, if you wish to take precautions, you should take your son to a learned person who might be able to help you out under such circumstances.
UmmIbrahimIsa
01-02-2005, 04:46 AM
assalamu alaikum wr wb
i think it was a phase...cuz he hasn't done that lately.... though he does claim that his other side of Isa is making him do naughty things whereas his side good isa is making him do good things...
masha'Allah that's kids for you... one minute they're fine and the next it's like nadr..and they're not.
JazakuAllahkhairun.... though if it does start up again im going to check around to see how to stop it... though i think it was for attention and he finally saw i wasnt paying attention anymore and dropped it to when before i really freaked out when he was talking like that probably why he did it more and often...but lately he hasn't done it so i havent noticed and he finally went onto the next activity... and that's talking way too much.
Abu Suliman
01-02-2005, 04:38 PM
asalam o alaikam sister i think you should take him to an qualified aalim who knows how to deal with jinns because there a signs that it could be a jinn.even if it is not a jinn as you think by taking him to someone who is qualified would at least rest your mind that it is not a jinn.
in the meantime you could recite surah jinn and blow it on him and i also heard according to a well known scholar i dont know if it is a hadith or saying of a scholar that if you keep grapefruit in your house a jinn will not enter that house try this if it works. I hpoe and pray to Allah that he protects us from the evils of jinns aameen.
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