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Ansari
05-12-2004, 12:22 PM
:salam:
I have once heard from a brother that this dunya was created for the prophet (peace be upon him). What do ulema say about this?
In relation to this subject, i came across a hadith in this book called 'the broken chain', (page 138) where a hasan hadith (al-hakim regarding adam alayhis salaam) is mentioned which says 'because had it not been for Muhammad, i would not (have) created you.'
If some people hold this view, how does this rhyme with the verse from Surah az-Dhaariyaat: 56
jaylen
06-12-2004, 12:17 AM
I know that it is said that Allah had said to Pr. Adam PBUH.."if it wasn't for Muhammad, I wouldn't have created you" this by itself shows how much Allah SWT loves Pr. Muhammad ASWS so yes if he created Pr. Adam so Pr. Muhammad could be created then why not this dunya..it's all connected.
Muawiyah
08-12-2004, 07:32 AM
Shaykh ibn Jibreen says that both these narrations, he one that goes, "Allah says, if it were not for you, I would not have created the universe..." and the narration that says that Allah said to Adam `alyhissalaam that "If it weren't for Muhammad I would not have created you" are false
لو لاك ما خلقت الكون (http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:www.ibn-jebreen.com/books/knz/kn16-5.htm+%22%D9%84%D9%88+%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%83+%D9%85%D8 %A7+%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%82%D8%AA+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9 %88%D9%86%22&lr=&strip=1)
Zain121
08-12-2004, 02:43 PM
As Salaamu Alaykum,
According to the Majority of Ulamaa it will be found that they believe that the world was created for the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam.
It should be noted that although the Hadeeth mentioned may be Da'eef (contain a weak chain of narration) nevertheless in accordance to the Usool of Hadeeth it may be used in topics of Fadheelah (rewards / rank). Thus, this Hadeeth is acceptable in showing the Fadheelah of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam.
This Hadeeth is an indication of the love held by Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala for the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam and the high rank that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala had given him.
Furthermore, the concept of the world being created for the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam can be comprehended. It is mentioned by many Ulamaa that when Hadhrat Adam Alayhis Salaam felt the need of a companion Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala created Hawaa Alayhas Salaam. But before he was allowed to lay his hand on her he had to offer her something in Dowry. Upon this requirement Hadhrat Adam Alayhis Salaam asked Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, "what am I to give her? She has Jannah and everything she needs. What I have she has also." In reply Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said, "send Durood (salutations) upon the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam and that shall be sufficient for you as dowry."
The Ulamaa deduce from this that although the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam was sent as the final messenger his Noor (spiritual light) and presence was there from day one.
If the Noor of the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam was created from day one, then why can it not be possible that the world was created for such a highly ranked Prophet?
And Allah Knows Best.
Wasalaam.
Ansari
08-12-2004, 03:07 PM
:salam:
Could you also name those ulema who have mentioned that the world was only created for the prophet (peace be upon him)?
Husain
08-12-2004, 04:51 PM
In addition to naming the Ulama, please provide proof that those ahadith are just slightly weak, as I have sufficient proof to the contrary.
In addition, this is a matter of Aqeedah, not just of Fadhail.
Thirdly, please supply the source as well the status of the narration you mentioned about Durood being given as dowry.
Jazakallah
salman
08-12-2004, 05:10 PM
Salamu Alaikum
The hadith in question - atleast in meaning is true.
Ibn Tayimiyya has mentioned in his Majmua that the meaning of this hadith is sound as does Ibn Qayyim in his Badai Al Fawaid.
Similarly, the verse "We have not sent you except as Mercy to mankind" also may point to him being the cause of creation. The Mercy of the Prophet has not reached everyone - rather the stubborn disbeliever are ofcourse devoid of this mercy - yet this is not the case. In reality, they benefit from this mercy due to the fact that without the Prophet, they would not have existed. So the Prophets mercy envelopes all in this regard.
It is odd - the Prophet is considered the one whose light was the first to be created (See Fatwa Rashidiyya and Muhasine Isllam (Maulana Thanvi)). Yet he was the last of Prophets. The Prophet was perfect. He was the perfection of humanity. When an architect builds a house - he already has in mind how the final house will be like. He starts off knowing the end result. The Prophet was the last in the line - yet the first to be created. Just as the architect will need to find a plot fo land, clear it and build on it before the final house in its true form is erected Allah created the universe, put man on it etc so as to bring the Prophet into the world who is also the final and complete perfection of man.
This is the philosophy behind it.
Husain
09-12-2004, 07:34 PM
Please furnish concrete proof proving the meaning to be sahih. Whichever Ulama eg. Mulla Ali Qari etc have said the meaning to be true have based it on other extremly weak narrations, which cannot be a valid basis.
Similarly, there is no basis for the hadith that the first thing to be created was the nur of Nabi (SAllallahu alaihi wasallam). See Murshidul Ha'ir by shaikh Abdullahal-Ghumari.
Husain
12-12-2004, 01:07 PM
JAzakallah
Now back to the topic under dicussion.
Was the world created for Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) or not?
Whatever ahadith have been presented to prove this, are extremly weak, thus anyone who wants to prove it, is requested to furnish sound narrations for it.
And Allah Ta'ala knows best
Ansari
12-12-2004, 05:08 PM
JAzakallah
Now back to the topic under dicussion.
Was the world created for Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) or not?
Whatever ahadith have been presented to prove this, are extremly weak, thus anyone who wants to prove it, is requested to furnish sound narrations for it.
And Allah Ta'ala knows best
The authencity is also handled in the book mentioned earlier. It says on page 139 that ibn abd al-hadi al-hanbali in his sarim almunki and ibn taymiyya (but he does say that he hadith is suppored with other evidences) in his fatawa and in another book concluded that there is no evidence to support the authencity of the hadith. Imam al-dhahabi declared it weak because of the weakness of one narrator. However al hakim nayasaburi said in his mustadrak and kitab al tarikh that the hadith regarding the intercession of Adam alayhis salaam, was sahih. Others have also declared it sahih. Like al-bulqini, qadi iyad, al-suyuti, al-tabarani, al-haythami, al subki (hassan), ibn hajar al-makki and others....ibn kathir uses the narration in his sirat and as a proof.
Are there any ulema who have explained the hadith differently than the conclusion that this world was made for the prophet (peace be upon him)?
And also, from the quranic verses you can note that the world was also made to serve us human beings...and thats also what the ulema say. So i guess you can say that the world was not only made for the prophet peace be upon him? Or would that be a wrong assumption?
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