songs of innocence

[Bint Mas`ood]

If someone who is knowledgeable in this area can let me know if listening to "songs of innocence" by talil al-habib is halal, would be great. Please let me know if the instrument he uses in it is permissible or not. Jazakallah

[Quraatulain]

His lyrics are really good MashaALLah but i'll like to know the same is it allowed to listen to his stuff??? His new Cd called Rahmah i think it has loads of Instruments in the back .........Jazakumullah

[Saad]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24800


Imam Abu Haneefah(*108) has perhaps the harshest view of the four famous Imams of jurisprudence. His school of thought is the strictest, for he detested singing and considered it sinful. As for his disciples, they have explicitly confirmed the prohibition of listening to all musical amusements and pastimes, including wind instruments (mazaameer),(*109) all types of tambourines, hand drums (dufoof)(*110) and even the striking of sticks(al-qadeeb). They have asserted that such actions constitute disobedience to Allah and that the performer of such action is sinful, therefore necessitating rejection of his testimony.(*111) They have further stated that it is incumbent upon the Muslim to struggle to avoid listening to such things, even if he were passing by or stationed near them (without any willful intention). Abu Haneefah's closest disciple, Abu Yoosuf, stated that if the sound of musical instruments (ma'aazif) and amusements (malaahi) were heard coming from a house, the house could be entered without permission of its owners.(*112) The justification for this is that the command regarding the prohibition of abominable things (munkaaraat) is mandatory, and cannot be established if such entering rests upon the permission of the residents of the premises.(*113) This is the madhhab (position) of the rest of the Kufic scholars as well, such as Ibraheem An-Nakha'i, Ash-Sha'bi, Hammaad and Ath-Thowri. They do not differ on this issue. The same can be said of the general body of jurisprudence of Al-Basrah.(*114)

(*108)The first of the four famous imaams. He was born in Koofah, Iraq in the 80th year of the Hijrah. He died in Baghdad in the year 150 H. See Adh-Dhahabi's Seeyar A'laamin Nubalaa, vol. 6, pp. 390-403.

(*109)Such as flutes, pipes, horns and related wind instruments.

(*110)Small hand drums without steel jangles. This permitted type is to be used on certain restricted occassions as designated by the sunnah, the details of which will follow.

(*111)Testimony given by witnesses concerning matters or crimes involving punishments is only accepted from trustworthy, obedient Muslims.

(*112)In shari'ah, the mere suspicion of vice is not sufficient to warranat invasion of privacy by the authorities. Here, however, the violation is not confined to the privacy of the home and should be prevented, even forcibly, to avoid corruption of society.

(*113)Quoted from 'Ownul Ma'bood Sharhu Sunan Abi Dawood, vol. 13, pp. 273-274.

(*114)Stated by Abut Teeb Taahir At-Tabari and quoted in Al-Qurtubi's Al-Jaami'li Ahkaamil Quraan, vol. 14, p. 55.

[OneLife]

:salam:

Songs of Innocence has two versions available. One is just vocals, and the other has a Dhuff ONLY. I don't recall any other instruments being played on this cd at all. The lyrics are :mash: very moving and beautiful, especially for the younger generation who needs alternatives to Britney Spears, Fergie or whatever else is out there. I would also recommend Talib al-Habib over the majority of other so called Nasheed artists, because Sidi Talib is an actual student of knowledge who is studying the deen and just some pop artist expressing himself. I believe he used to post on here before too.

I haven't heard Rahma, but I doubt it would have instruments other than the dhuff on it.

[mishor]

:salam:

Songs of Innocence has two versions available. One is just vocals, and the other has a Dhuff ONLY. I don't recall any other instruments being played on this cd at all. The lyrics are :mash: very moving and beautiful, especially for the younger generation who needs alternatives to Britney Spears, Fergie or whatever else is out there. I would also recommend Talib al-Habib over the majority of other so called Nasheed artists, because Sidi Talib is an actual student of knowledge who is studying the deen and just some pop artist expressing himself. I believe he used to post on here before too.

Note: I believe you made a typin error there bro. I'm sure you meant to put a 'not' between the two bold letters. :)

Talib's nasheeds are awesome. :D
Yes, he uses the duff only and no other instrument. He was a membr of this forum but I haven't seen him here for a while.

I would recommend his songs to everyone, young and old.


I haven't heard Rahma, but I doubt it would have instruments other than the dhuff on it.
You definitely need to hear Rahma bro. It's brilliant.

[Quraatulain]

Does he really uses the Duff only version????? it sounds so musical in the back ......oh well i love his lyrics ...

[mishor]

Does it really sound musical? :confused:
But I can guarantee you 110% that it is duff only. :)

[Quraatulain]

Jazakalahu Khair for that then i'll continue listening to the nasheeds......It's way better than some of the others ....

[ENIGMA]

Is there anywhere online I can maybe listen to this person. Seeing as so many people are saying it's only the duff then I wanna listen. Has anyone heard that album from the islamic institue for the blind in South Africa(I think its called sautan noor). Absaloutely brilliant.I aways put that on when my daughters going to bed and she loves it.

[mishor]

Is there anywhere online I can maybe listen to this person. Seeing as so many people are saying it's only the duff then I wanna listen. Has anyone heard that album from the islamic institue for the blind in South Africa(I think its called sautan noor). Absaloutely brilliant.I aways put that on when my daughters going to bed and she loves it.
You can listen to samples at the following website:
www.nuralhabib.com

[ENIGMA]

Jazakallah brother. Wheres a good place to buy these nasheed cd's from? The problem is there are so mnay artists these days and dont know which ones are permitted and ones not(meaning those who use musical instruments and those who dont).

[mishor]

Jazakallah brother. Wheres a good place to buy these nasheed cd's from? The problem is there are so mnay artists these days and dont know which ones are permitted and ones not(meaning those who use musical instruments and those who dont).
You can buy it from the website I gave you. They are producers and distributers of the album's.

[ENIGMA]

I meant another nasheeds to, not just that one.

[yearningheart]

Assalamu alaykum.

Here are a couple:
http://audio.xanga.com/madeofearth

There are also a couple of his songs on youtube, just do a search for 'talib al habib'

[Bint Mas`ood]

i dunno man, I remember hearing how only one beat on the duff is allowed, so his songs sound questionable to me. Can any scholars shed some light on this please?

[ENIGMA]

Im confused again people :confused: . Yes, could some one please clarify the nasheeds of brother talib al habib please.

[Quraatulain]

Salams dont anyone here know how to get in touch with Brother Talib ? Then we can just clarify it all instead of going around in circles,lol......Hey the brothers nasheed lyrics are brilliant but whats with it does not sound as brilliant ......Allah knows best .....

[Pr1nce]

His nasheeds only contain the daff. He uses background vocals to create an atmospheric background

[yearningheart]

Assalamu alaykum. Yes it says so on the album cover. Duff only, and sometimes voice only.

This is his blog, but I don't think he has much time to write regularly on it:
http://www.wayfarersrest.blogspot.com/

[Bint Mas`ood]

but he fully has beats in it..I thought the duff is supposed to be beat one beat at a time...

[Quraatulain]

Assalamualikum i was thinking the same.I have no idea how Duff actually sounds but i know music and it sounds like it (musical). I could be wrong so please do forgive Brother Taalib ......but i would really love to know ......

[mishor]

A duff is basically a simple hand held drum.

[mishor]

Jazakallah brother. Wheres a good place to buy these nasheed cd's from? The problem is there are so mnay artists these days and dont know which ones are permitted and ones not(meaning those who use musical instruments and those who dont).
Have you heard of Shaam? They're pretty good. They also use duff only.

[Pr1nce]

Like I said before, its daff only - so no need to panic lol

[onetinywish]

:salam:

bump - so it's just the duff then?