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Mansy
25-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Assalamualaikum
1)the plural of bayt is buyut and abyat, what is the difference between these two plurals?
2) what connection does the word sikkeen (knife) has with its root word sakana?
3) what is the difference in meaning of
زيد قام
and
قام زيد
4) what is the difference in meaning of
أزيد قائمand
هل زيد قائم
5) in the quran (in ayat related to law), does the fact that there is a fatha at the end of a noun and damma at the end of another noun have any thing to do with the legal status of a particular hukm, if yes then what?
6) why are water taps in modern Arabic know as hanafiyya?
7) what is the origin of the word bustan (garden)?
8) which ma'rifa (from the seven marifas) is known as the a'raful ma'arif?
9) what is tanazu filan تنازع فعلان and is there any example of it from the quran
10) and last of all what is the linguistic origin of the word ism, and which debate in aqida is based on this linguistic origin?
get those brain cells working :D
best wishes
wassalam
Mansur
abuhajira
26-08-2007, 06:59 AM
:salam:
1. Plural of Bayt is Buyut but Abyaat is Plural of the plural. As for Qawl is Aqwaal and plural of that is Aqaweel. this is called Jam' ul Jam'.
2. Sikkeen is used to give the Mazbooh an eternal Sakeenah; and that is Maut. (Sakana comes in the meaning of becoming calm, like when we say Sakan al-Mataru The rain stops or calmed down; this is also in the meaning of diying out. Sakan ar-Reeh i.e The wind died down; But when it is used as Sakan al Jism.. then it mean that the body stopped its motion. And this is what the mazbooh does, it stops in motion. This is also why some said that it provides a complete rest to the body with death)
I did the two.. show I keep answering the remaining.. I like these questions.. I will have to do some looking up ..
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Mansy
26-08-2007, 09:34 AM
:salam:
1. Plural of Bayt is Buyut but Abyaat is Plural of the plural. As for Qawl is Aqwaal and plural of that is Aqaweel. this is called Jam' ul Jam'.
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Jama muntahl jumu is the jama taksir after the alif of taksir of which there are two extra letters such as rasaa'il and aqaa'id, or three extra letters the middle of which is saakin such as masaabeeh and danaaneer.
The seeghas of jama muntahal jumu are:
mafaa'il, mafaa'eel, fawa'il and fawaa'eel.
aqaaweel is jama ul jama because it has three letters after the alif of taksir with the middle one being saakin, however aqwaal is not jam' ul jama, and since abyaat is on the same pattern as aqwaal therefore this is also not a jam' ul jama, therefore maulana your answer is incorrect, try again :cheesygri
wassalam
abuhajira
26-08-2007, 10:52 AM
:salam:
I couldnt believe I overlooked this :) nice one..
Bayt with pl. Buyutun / Buyutaat is for house , room etc.
Bayt with pl. Abyaat / Abayeet is for prose, couplet or Ash'aar. The pl. is on scale of Af'aal as for As-saif pl. As-yaaf.
Is that correct?
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P.S Pls no calling me Maulana.. I am not a grad.. inshAllah one day..hey that also give me a chance to be wrong :P
seeker4ever
27-08-2007, 02:18 AM
Assalamu-alaikum,
6) why are water taps in modern Arabic know as hanafiyya?
Had read this a few weeks back:
"When taps were invented, the scholars held that wudū' (ablution) must only be performed using still water, and that running water coming through pipes from a tap may not be used to do wudū'.
The Hanafīs then looked into the matter and ruled that it was permissible to perform wudū' using water that came from a tap. And so to this day, the tap remains the namesake of the Hanafīs."
Source: http://arabicgems.wordpress.com/2006/02/24/taps-tribute-to-hanafis/
abuhajira
27-08-2007, 09:45 AM
:salam:
4. what is the difference in meaning of
أزيد قائمand
هل زيد قائم
There is no difference in the meaning. The difference would only come if in the sentence with Hamza Istifhaamiya, a Mu'aadil is brought after the sentence. In which case the sentence will mean A` Zaidun Qaimun Am Ahmed (Is Zaid standing).
As is there is no difference since both Hamza and Hal are being used for Tasdeeq.
am I correct ??
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Mansy
29-08-2007, 01:07 AM
Assalamu-alaikum,
6) why are water taps in modern Arabic know as hanafiyya?
Assalamualaikum bro, look at my answer in the post below for the specifics.
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12724
wassalam
Mansy
29-08-2007, 01:11 AM
:salam:
There is no difference in the meaning. The difference would only come if in the sentence with Hamza Istifhaamiya, a Mu'aadil is brought after the sentence. In which case the sentence will mean A` Zaidun Qaimun Am Ahmed (Is Zaid standing).
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Assalamualikum this is also correct, but this is to do with the function of the harf and not its meaning. Have a look at the balaagha books, its something to do with tasdiq and tasawwur and then get back to me.
Ma sha' Allah, keep up the research
wassalam
Mansur
p.s. did you see my reply to your dhahir vs majaaz post?
abuhajira
29-08-2007, 06:12 AM
Assalamualikum this is also correct, but this is to do with the function of the harf and not its meaning. Have a look at the balaagha books, its something to do with tasdiq and tasawwur and then get back to me.
Ma sha' Allah, keep up the research
wassalam
Mansur
p.s. did you see my reply to your dhahir vs majaaz post?
:salam:
Actually I answered keeping the quality of tasdiq and tasawwur in mind. Since without the mu'aadil the both (Hamza and Hal) come for Tasdiq. When the Mu'aadil is brought with Hamza Istifhamiya, then only does it come for tasawwur.
However, I think without the Mu'aadil, Hamza still has the ability to come for tasawwur, in which case we will have to see the siyaaq of the question and then only can we determine the accurate meaning of the sentence.
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P.S I answered there...
abuhajira
29-08-2007, 08:01 AM
:salam:
7) what is the origin of the word bustan (garden)?
Bustaan is from Farsee word Baustaan. Baustaan is a Murakkab of two words. Bau and Staan. Bau means fragrance and Staan has two origin. One is again farsee which means an "area of collecting". Which would mean Bustaan is "An Area of collecting Fragrance"
the other origin for Stan is Sanskrit word Sthaan. Which means a place of living or residence.. So Bustaan then would mean a place of residence of fragrance.
Bustaan was adopted into Arabic and given the meaning of a garden because it is where one can find fragrances. Its plural is Basateen like Shayateen OR Basatoon like Shayatoon.
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abuhajira
29-08-2007, 08:55 AM
:salam:
8. which ma'rifa (from the seven marifas) is known as the a'raful ma'arif?
Nahwiyeen understand that the idea of Ma'rifa is to be known. And A'raful Ma'arif will be that Ma'rifa in which there is not a slightest bit of Ibhaam (ambiguity). By this understanding.. the rank of Ma'arif are as follows :
1. Zameer Mutakalim (be we know with certainty who the person is)
2. Zameer Mujhatib
3. Zameer Ghaib
4. Alam
5. Asma'y Ishara
6. Asma'y Mausoolaat
7. Muarraf bil-laam
8. Munada
9. Mudaaf / Mudaaf Ilayh.
There is also slight discussion in 9 and 10, such that since Mudaaf gets its distinction from Mudaaf Ilayh, it will be in same rank. However there are some Ulama who have ranked Mudaaf lower than Mudaaf Ilayh because for the mudaaf to be realized Mudaaf Ilayh has to be realized first. Such is the stance of Allama Mubrad..
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abuhajira
29-08-2007, 09:23 AM
:salam:
10) and last of all what is the linguistic origin of the word ism, and which debate in aqida is based on this linguistic origin?
The difference is a drastic one between The Basriyeen and Kufiyeen.
Basically Basri Ulama say :
Ism is from Simwun (Seen Meem Wao - Kasra on Seen and Sakin on Meem) and it means to be high. Their daleel is the plural being Asmaa' and Asaamiy and the Tasgheer is Sumaiyy which was Sumaywun before Ta'leel.
Kufi Ulama Say:
It comes from Wismun. (Wao Seen Meem - Kasrah on Wao and Sakin on Seen) and mean "a sign". Through ta'leel the wao maksoor was changed to Hamza. Their daleel is that any Ism signifies and defines the intended. This is why it is called Ism.
Among the Nahwiyeen the preferred opinion is that of Basri Ulama.
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