NJ: Nima retreat

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

Anyone going to the Nima retreat in NJ next week?

[Fisabilillah]

Walaikumasalam warahmatullah

Insha'Allah this finds you all in the best of Imaan and health, Ameen..


in response to "is anyone going to the Ni'ma retreat" ...

INSHA'ALLAH!!!!

Subhan'Allah its going to be a a truly blessed event :) Insha'Allah

make duaa we take somethign out of it if not alot, insha'Allah

for those who don't know:

www.nimasacredretreat.com


check it..starts sunday 20th till saturday the 26th..insha'Allah

Asalamualaikum warahmatullah

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

well i'll be there with my kids and my husband.
just wondering what other sisters are going from here..

[UmmZaid]

Salaam 'Alaikum

I'm already there in spirit and mind and time. :eek: May actually be there in person one or two days.

[Fisabilillah]

:salam:
subhan'Allah it was amazing....the shuyukh..subhan'allah wal hamdulillah wa la ilaha ilallah walahu akbar wa la haula wala quwatta ila bila hil alyul atheem...

subhan'Allah the content....

insha'Allah i'll be posting up notes that i took from the diff shuyukh and thier talks there on my MSN groups: http://groups.msn.com/dawahfisabilillah

not today not tonight..maybe tomarro..or in a few days but sign up and ull get em w/e i post em..soon though,, insha'Allah make duaa Allah keeps me away from procrastination....

Jazak'Allahkhairun

Asalamualaikum wa rahmatullah

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

yes me too..give me a couple of days to recover and i too insha'Allah will post up some things.

it was a good experience, masha'Allah.

[mujahideenryder]

asalamualykum

i was there too!

shaykh salek was the best!

walykumsalam

[Fisabilillah]

asalamualykum

i was there too!

shaykh salek was the best!

walykumsalam

Walaikumasalam
Subhan'Allah indeed Shaykh Salek was good....he really did hit it home....Subhan'Allah...All the shuyukh there were wonderful, it was a blessing alone jsut to be in that atmosphere....

May Allah grant us tawfiq and taqwa,and let us imply what we learned there into our daily lives, and may he reward all the Shuyukh, organizers and students who attended the retreat and shower his endless barakah and rahma upon us, insha'Allah, Ameen.

[mujahideenryder]

ameen

yeah mashaAllah, shaykh muhammad al yakoubi gave really great advice on istigfar and seekin taubah

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

If only it was longer I think that would be a real treat.
My son didn't want to leave. He had a really good time. Now things are getting back to normal here, yet I miss how he was there. He was independent enough to go back and forth between the cabins and campsite, if only he could do that in the house insha'Allah.

Yes the shaykhs did a fine job masha'Allah. Though I hope for next time they do space out the breaks a bit, perhaps have the classes in the mornings till lunch time then have a break to do activities or nap time then re start the classes again in the late afternoon and evening. It was pretty intensive that it was draining and straining. STill recovering.

Also it would be nice if they did try to get halal (zabeeha) meats there instead of kosher. Non zabeeha meat including kosher and I don't mix well together, I always end up getting ill over it.

P.S. did anyone leave anything at the campsite? My husband forgot a pillow and a cooler box. :( The camp directors dont seem too helpful in letting me know whether or not its there in their lost and found, they say they cant walk all over there to look for it and if its there, and I left a message with one of the organizers that they'll get back to me, though if I dont come to claim it within a week or so they'll keep it for themselves which is real bad as I had a lot of my kids stuff in there...

[Fisabilillah]

salam
ur sure it wasnt zabiha?...positive?...

wasalam

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

I asked the cooks, and double checked. They said it was kosher and that the halal meat was not available. When I asked a few of the other sisters some said that on Sunday and Monday the meat was halal, but the other days it will probably be kosher. Those meat rolls were kosher.

[mujahideenryder]

omg ummIbarhimIsa, is ur son ibrahim, well oviobsly, haha
subhanAllah, your son is madd cute, the best part was when he went up to shaykh muhammad al yakoubi and was like "no only 1" hahahahaha

yeah the camp ppl didnt like us that much

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

masha'Allah... yup that's him..a real charmer....


for those that weren't there and missed this great event and benfit.

My older son Ibrahim was serving pieces of clementines aka tangerines, aka seedless oranges to the students. First it was passed around on the sisters side, then I handed him a plate of it to be handed off on the brothers side.
LOL though it was real funny when Shaykh Muhammad Yaquobi was like, is the whole plate for me? and he's like no only 1... of course everyone laughed and im on the other side going huh what happened?
Yes I saw him bring back the plate which still had a few oranges on it as some brothers still tried to take some, and I said hey dont bring me back the plate with some of it on, leave it there for them to finish it and let it not go to waste. He said the oranges give people energy, and keep them awake to listen in the class.
masha'Allah.

another cute thing to share but will make another thread on it insha'Allah.

[Fisabilillah]

asalamualaikum
hmm i checked with one of the organizers of the retreat..and they said the food was zabiha, it was Crave Foods and the president of the Crave foods company, she was there as well...so as far as i know thru the organizers they said it was zabiha..maybe the cafe. ppl didnt know the difference b/w halal and zabeeha..ya kno...well im going to take the organizers word for it, dont wanna go around doubting.

ight well just thought i'd give the heads up...

Asalamualaikum wa rahmatullah

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

Assalamu alaikum wr wb

Ok insha'Allah.... that's probably it. Allahu Alim.

Never heard of Crave foods, must be a new company..

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

hmm found it through search and I guess the servers camp workers really had no clue the difference between kosher and zabeeha, they probably thought it meant all the same.

[Mossy]

Erm.. Kosher meat is zabiha (http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/QA00000448.aspx).. In fact, I'd say it was more strictly zabiha than those slaughtered by muslims as they have extremely rigourous testing and certification procedures.

I'm not to fond of the "avoid it in protest of the treatment of our Palestinian brothers by evil Zionists" proviso however - very little money will go from kosher butchers (as they have high overheads as all the equipment has to be tip top and animals killed individually, hence they do not support the Israeli state in a way that say the US government would do, or more luxury commoditities.

Glad to hear the retreat was productive.

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

some kosher products contain wine in them and since they consider wine as halal, we dont... thats why there's doubt.

i think the whole point of me bringing that up kosher/zabiha was that if i eat something that is not zabiha, meat etc.. i end up feeling very lerthargic, and drained tired, and sick. Like stomach virus, either the rolls werent cooked properly (raw dough causing the aches, or raw meat) or that it was just me.
it wasnt until i had a few of these rolls that the person told me it was kosher so i was like oh, hmm...ok... I guess halal wasn't available. Allahu Alim.

overall it turned out be a good event, i heard the sun program though not a lot of ppl came, the closing fundraiser... i feel sad though about that cuz all the scholars are probably upset.

[mujahideenryder]

asalamualykum

most kosher meat these days are not zabiha, its very simple they get the beat, and stamp it kosher on it, some jewish guy was tellin me that even kosher meat isnt really kosher, its all about the money

walykumsalam

[Mossy]

most kosher meat these days are not zabiha, its very simple they get the beat, and stamp it kosher on it, some jewish guy was tellin me that even kosher meat isnt really kosher, its all about the money


Kosher meat is still a heck of a lot more zabiha than zabiha meat. Kosher may be like that in certain areas, but in any orthodox area doing that would be most inadvisable (they're very particular about that).

Sorry to hear about your tummy sr UmmIbrahimIsa - food at event can be a dash sloppy at times.. :(

[mujahideenryder]

Kosher meat is still a heck of a lot more zabiha than zabiha meat. Kosher may be like that in certain areas, but in any orthodox area doing that would be most inadvisable (they're very particular about that).


how is it more zabiha?

[Mossy]

how is it more zabiha?

Kosher butchers tend to undergo far more rigorous and periodic testing to ensure they aren't cutting corners than halal butchers. In addition, the process of preparing kosher meat has to be correct in every detail, so even if they slip it can still be zabiha.