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True Life
24-11-2007, 11:35 AM
Which Tafseer would you recommend for Tablighi Brothers? Or is there maybe a Tafsir by a an elder of the effort?

I'm curious because in their Bayanaat they give nice interpretations of verses and fit them in for different aspects of the effort, but no Tafsir I've read yet gives you these special views. I've tried already Ma'ariful Qur'an, Tafsir Uthmani, Tafsir Ibn Kathir... they're great Tafsirs, but don't deliver the stories of Ambiya or other segments from that special angle.

I hope someone understood what I'm brabbing about and can help.

Sadia90
24-11-2007, 03:07 PM
Thank u for a good question brother. The best tafseer is Tafseer Ibne Katheer. try also tafseer jala-lain and tafseer tabari. In urdu u can try to read Tafseer Naeeme, it have also many stories of prophets.

Haq Ali
Ya Ali

ftp
24-11-2007, 04:46 PM
Which Tafseer would you recommend for Tablighi Brothers? Or is there maybe a Tafsir by a an elder of the effort?


Brother, as far as I'm aware I'm not sure whether tafsir reading is prescribed by the elders in the effort. Why I am not sure.

It would be wise to ask your local ameer which tafsir he reads or which tafsir halaqah he participates in. If your local ameer does neither, it would be wise to go up a level and ask the senior ameers above him. Just keep going up the chain until you get your answer.

majhul
24-11-2007, 05:25 PM
Assalam alaikum,

Check Maulana Ashiq Ilahi's tafsir.

slaveof Allaah
24-11-2007, 05:49 PM
:salam:

Ya Akhee, that "taste" doesn't come in books, it comes sitting in the Majlis of the Ulema-e-Kiraam and benefitting from thier company. Our Teachers tell us that 'Ilm is never learned in the classroom but it is learned in the darkness of night one to one" Walahi this is true, and it is comming from those Ulema-e-Kiraam who sit in classrooms and teach us everyday in the Madrasa.

ENIGMA
24-11-2007, 06:03 PM
I personally use Ma'riful Quran, but, there are a few book's which are in Nizamuddin Marqaz, which, lets say, are very very private. I know there is one tafsir which was written by an elder in Nizamuddin, but it is not published.

I was told by a scholar who was close to the elders that in Nizamuddin, there are some kitaabs there, which only selected people have access to.

The advice of the elders is to to increase ones knowledge , and one way they advise is to read authentic books in ones free time.

True Life
24-11-2007, 11:40 PM
:salam:

Ya Akhee, that "taste" doesn't come in books, it comes sitting in the Majlis of the Ulema-e-Kiraam and benefitting from thier company. Our Teachers tell us that 'Ilm is never learned in the classroom but it is learned in the darkness of night one to one" Walahi this is true, and it is comming from those Ulema-e-Kiraam who sit in classrooms and teach us everyday in the Madrasa.That's what I'm saying, but unfortunately at places where deeni effort is weak (like here) you get almost no chances to sit with Ulema and real elders (most elders here became elders without sitting that much in the company of elders either lol).

That's why I was just curious.

abuhajira
25-11-2007, 07:58 AM
:salam:

My teacher Maulana Muhammed ( Head of Hadith Dept. here ) took us for Quraan last year.. and his primary tafseer is Tafseer ibn Kathir, and yet every day or so he would show how some Mufassir of the past actually presented the same idea which we see in the Tablighi Bayan.. Wittingly, he would conclude afterwards that "see even Ibn katheer was a TJ, now people will complain about him too" :).. Other than that he would constantly refer to Tabari, or in contemporary ones Safwatut Tafaseer.

I personally would recomend Anwar ul bayan or Maariful Quran for laymen. Its written with that in mind. However, which every tafseer you take, its not the matter within it that will give you TJ understanding , rather when you gain your TJ mindset, you will start noticing all the things which can be used for TJ Bayaans.

Same is case for Tasawuf.. When you read tafaseer like Tafseer Uthmani, or Bayanul Quran or Ruhul ma'ani etc etc.. you will see that same basis have been used to draw a completely Sufiyana understanding because the temprament of the reader or mufassir was such..

:ws:

True Life
26-11-2007, 12:23 PM
Jazak'allah khair.

ftp
26-11-2007, 02:18 PM
The advice of the elders is to to increase ones knowledge , and one way they advise is to read authentic books in ones free time.

It's best to consult your local ameer regarding what "authentic" books you should/shouldn't read as they will have a better idea of what may be suitable in jamaat at tableegh or even in one's own home.

As has been stated already, the best thing to do would be to participate in the Qur'an Halaqah by a good scholar - this is the true transfer of prophetic and heavenly knowledge - from chest to chest, sitting at the feet of the ulamah.

Sometimes, I ponder - With so many scholars and duroos present in one city, why do many of the practising brothers stay away from them thinking that the effort they themselves do (different effort) is "perhaps" better??? I have been given a few different reasons by these brothers, but it's very unfortunate that they're not really any proper responses other than just mere rambling.

May Allah (swt) enlighten us all with guidance. Ameen.

ENIGMA
26-11-2007, 02:44 PM
I really dont wanna get involved at the whole TJ thing, as I said my piece last time. All I will say that, so long as the book is from authentic authors, regardless of madhab, so long as it is recognised as a authentic book, people involved in the tabligh effort are not constarined to any particualr author for individual reading to increase knowledge.

And what about no Quran halaqa's taking place?

The whole 'better' argument has been answered by me and others in a previous long thread.

Brother, the effort of TJ is massive and different people will have different understanding of it depending on their level involvment. I mean, people came on here accusing TJ's of not getting bayt to shaykhs and all sorts.

And I felt appropriate responses were given. Anyway, i'd suggest you dig up the old thread if you have any queries.

The primary reason I posted the above was to let you(ftp)know I had read the post and was not shying away from an answer.

ftp
27-11-2007, 04:09 AM
I really dont wanna get involved at the whole TJ thing, as I said my piece last time. All I will say that, so long as the book is from authentic authors, regardless of madhab, so long as it is recognised as a authentic book, people involved in the tabligh effort are not constarined to any particualr author for individual reading to increase knowledge.

And what about no Quran halaqa's taking place?

The whole 'better' argument has been answered by me and others in a previous long thread.

Brother, the effort of TJ is massive and different people will have different understanding of it depending on their level involvment. I mean, people came on here accusing TJ's of not getting bayt to shaykhs and all sorts.

And I felt appropriate responses were given. Anyway, i'd suggest you dig up the old thread if you have any queries.

The primary reason I posted the above was to let you(ftp)know I had read the post and was not shying away from an answer.

Jazakallahu khairan brother Enigma, but I just want to point out that my post was in no way aimed at you or intended for any specific person, so please do not feel offended in anyway. I love you for the sake of Allah as you are my brother and and had no intention of getting on your nerves. If I have upset you or offended you in any way, I beg you to forgive me.

I totally agree that this effort is huge and many people have different perceptions of carrying it out. But I think the ameer of the masjid and shura members the local area/district "represent" the effort to the people of the community. So if if the shura members and the elders of the effort do not participate in Qur'an/hadith dars, and emphasise a stringent timetable for others that participate in the effort to the extent that they cannot join in the Qur'an/hadith dars themselves, or if they do decide to join the dars at the expense of leaving the local jawla, they are treated as those who are straying from the "major" effort to the "minor" effort - then this indeed gives the impression that jamaat at tableegh suffer from a superiority complex that unless you're with the effort you still have a long way to go to reach the higher levels of "understanding" and "piety".

Having said the above - this is the IMPRESSION given by SOME! It is unfortunate that this group somehow dominate the higher levels and exacerbate and magnify the wrong impression.

I know of brothers from jamaat at tableegh who are simply AMAZING! They involve themselves in everything within their capacity but their effort of jawla is priority. What makes them AMAZING is their adab, humbleness, wisdom in dealing with people from different manhaj and amazing levels of knowledge of hadith, Qur'an, fiqh, history, politics etc, their DIRECT attachment to the 'ulamah and their ability to always remind others of the akhirah. When people highlight discrepancies within the jamaat at tableegh, I would tell them to interact with these AMAZING brothers and their doubts would be cleared Masha'Allah!

I make du'a that we have more of these amazing brothers in jamaat at tableegh at the higher levels to portray and reflect the true understanding of Maulana Ilyas rahimahullah. Ameen.

mizi_
10-12-2007, 05:14 AM
Which Tafseer would you recommend for Tablighi Brothers? Or is there maybe a Tafsir by a an elder of the effort?

I'm curious because in their Bayanaat they give nice interpretations of verses and fit them in for different aspects of the effort, but no Tafsir I've read yet gives you these special views. I've tried already Ma'ariful Qur'an, Tafsir Uthmani, Tafsir Ibn Kathir... they're great Tafsirs, but don't deliver the stories of Ambiya or other segments from that special angle.

I hope someone understood what I'm brabbing about and can help.

Assalamu alaikum

First of all, any tafsir that is mu'tabar and good for a muslim is good for tablighi brothers also... if you are a tablighi and a muslim you dont need a specialised tafsir.. unless you are inclined to sectarian or cultism..

As for those elders, scholars, they have long labored, and made jihad in the path of knowledge of the Qur'an, and and made tadabbur, tawaquf, sometimes for years on certain ayaat of al-Qur'an, so ALLAH granted them knowledge of tafsirs..
as our esteem scholars said:
'tafsirs are nur in the heart'
thats why when the explained the ayat of al-Quran - it fits perfectly and beautifully with what they are talking about..

You cannot gain this knowledge just by personal reading..
or literature search..

Rather u must live by the ayat al-Qur'an, learnt the tafsirs by heart, with talaqqi and isnad from scholars who are ahl al-qur'an
..

Wassalam

True Life
10-12-2007, 06:30 AM
I was not degrading other Tafsirs, was just looking one with a "specific taste" so to speak.

abulayl
10-12-2007, 10:35 AM
Haq Ali
Ya Ali

i just had a question which is out of topic.

What you mean with haq ali or ya ali?

what is your intention behind this?

Colonel_Hardstone
10-12-2007, 12:55 PM
I was not degrading other Tafsirs, was just looking one with a "specific taste" so to speak.

Asslamo Allaikum,

Your question was answered by HazratJee Maulana Yusuf (RA) when he was repeatedly asked to write a Tafseer of the Qur'aan since he was an authentic Alim.