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Rami Nsour
10-12-2007, 09:58 PM
Assalamu alaykum to all,

I was trying to do some research on the blessed Sandal of the Prophet sal Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam and I would like some help.

On Shukr Online, there are a few books mentioned there and i would like to know if anyone could tell me where to find them in Arabic or at least an english translation. Here is the list of the books from their site (http://www.shukronline.com/the-prophets-sandal.html);

1. Imam Abu Ishāq Ibrahīm ibn Muhammad ibn Khalaf al-Sullamī, famous as Ibn al-Hājj, who collected that which many poets and authors had written in praise of the sandals.

2. Imam and hadith master Abū al-Yumn `Abd al-Samad ibn `Abd al-Wahhāb Ibn `Asākir of Damascus (686 AH), who was buried in the Baqī` cemetery [in Madina], authored a treatise called A Sketch of the Sandal of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) (Timthālu Na`l al-Nabiyy), which is published.

3. The great mujtahid Imam Sirāj al-Dīn `Umar ibn Raslān al-Bulqīnī.

4. Imam Shams al-Dīn Muhammad ibn `Īsa al-Muqri’, whose book was titled A Joy For Eyes By Verifying The Matter of The Sandals (Qurrat al-`Aynayn fī Tahqīq Amr al-Na`layn)

5. Imam Abū al-`Abbās al-Maqqarī of Tilmisān, who died in Egypt, wrote the most expansive work on the issue, An Opening From The Most High In Praising The Sandals (Fath al-Muta`āl fī Madh al-Ni`āl). This work is published, and has three abridgements. The first is by Radiyy al-Dīn Abu al-Khayr al-Qādirī; the second by Abū al-Hasan al-Dimintī; and the third by Shaykh Yūsuf al-Nabahānī (Allah have mercy on them all).

6. The author of the work Collected Pearls from the Bewildering Design and the Unique Exposition on the Characteristics of the Depiction of the Sandals of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) ( al-La’ali’ al-Majmū`a Min Bāhir al-Nizām wa Bāri` al-Kalām fī Sifat Mithāl Na`li Rasūl Allāh), who was one of the scholars of Cordoba, as mentioned by the historian Abū Sālim al-`Ayyāshī in his famous travelogue.
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The one that i am especially intrested is #5, which is supposed to be a 500 page book on the sandal. On another website it (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-2579154_ITM) it mentions that book.

On another website (http://scholarspen.blogspot.com/2005/11/sandal-of-prophet-heavenly-peace-and.html), there is an excerpt from the book and its in english so i am assuming that there is at least an english translation.

If you come across something, you can post it here and/or email me at [clip -- sorry, no email postings allowed in the general forums.].

Thank you for all your help and precious time.

rami nsour

Husain
11-12-2007, 06:06 AM
:ws:

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome Shaikh Rami to the Forum.
We really appreciate your joining and hope to benefit from you.

For those who are unaware, Shaikh Rami is a student of Shaikh Murabit al-Haj, having spent many long years in the deserts of Mauritania studying the Din.
Shaikh Rami is very well-versed in Maliki fiqh and we hope that he will benefit us all by answering the Maliki fiqh queries that come up.

I know that he also had tons of astonishing experiences in the Mauritanian deserts, so if we really make him feel at home here, he might share some of them with us :- )



أهلا وسهلا ومرحبا

Husain
11-12-2007, 06:38 AM
5. Imam Abū al-`Abbās al-Maqqarī of Tilmisān, who died in Egypt, wrote the most expansive work on the issue, An Opening From The Most High In Praising The Sandals (Fath al-Muta`āl fī Madh al-Ni`āl). This work is published, and has three abridgements. The first is by Radiyy al-Dīn Abu al-Khayr al-Qādirī; the second by Abū al-Hasan al-Dimintī; and the third by Shaykh Yūsuf al-Nabahānī (Allah have mercy on them all).
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The one that i am especially intrested is #5, which is supposed to be a 500 page book on the sandal. On another website it (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-2579154_ITM) it mentions that book.

On another website (http://scholarspen.blogspot.com/2005/11/sandal-of-prophet-heavenly-peace-and.html), there is an excerpt from the book and its in english so i am assuming that there is at least an english translation.


There is a new edition of the book available.
You could purchase it here (http://www.neelwafurat.com/itempage.aspx?id=lbb151290-112785&search=books)

Here (http://www.al-ilmiyah.com/_Product.php?Action=Detail&ProductID=2487) is the publication info for that copy.

Here (http://www.kfnl.gov.sa:88/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=L1YR401879328.4980&profile=akfnl&uri=full=3100006@!18958@!7&ri=1&aspect=power&menu=search&source=172.16.16.74@!kfnl1256&ipp=20&staffonly=&term=%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A&index=.GW&uindex=&aspect=power&menu=search&ri=1) is the publication info for the old edition.

There are a number of other works on the topic. Most are in manuscript form.
I will email you their details.

mospike
11-12-2007, 06:53 AM
Ahlan Wasahlan Sheikh Rami

We trust that your stay here with us will be lengthy and that we can benefit from your guidance and knowledge.

sufisticated
11-12-2007, 06:58 AM
masha'Allah

if any of the malikis on here are not familiar with shaykh rami, i suggest you get hold of the 'fiqh of ramadan' series which is downloadable from zaytuna.org.

in addition, shaykh rami recorded a 'fiqh of umrah' audio which is available to buy.

may we all benefit insha'Allah

ryameen
11-12-2007, 07:18 AM
Assalamualaykum,

Ahlas wa sahlan Shaykh Rami, and thank you for joining this forum. May Allah (swt) increase you and bless you and may He benifit us by your presence.

I am very eager to learn about Shaykh Murabit al-Haaj.

fatboy_dhaka
11-12-2007, 08:07 AM
Assalamualaikum

Its nice to know that the new members in this forum are amongst the noble Ulema ekram.

I happen to have a book called Zaadus Saeed by Hakimul Ummah Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi. Obviously its a local print but it does have a chapter on the Blessed Sandals of Rasulallah sallalahualayhiwasallam.
The chapter contains some really interesting material, some of which Ive never heard/seen anywhere including some aamal with the design of the blessed sandals and its benefits.
Unfortunately I cant find that book right now.
Will have to look again.
Also the local print I have of Fadaile Hajj by Hazrat Shaykhul Hadith Zakariyya Kandhlawi has the design of the blessed sandals.


Jazakumullah.

tru_Qur'an
11-12-2007, 10:24 PM
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu,

Marhabaa Sheikh Rami. May Allah protect you and cause you to be a light of guidance for those seeking beneficial 'ilm. ameen

Barak'Allahu feekum

Rami Nsour
13-12-2007, 10:26 PM
As-salamu alaykum to all,

Thank you so much for the warm welcome. Its a good reminder that we are all part of the ummah of the Prophet Muhammad (sal Allahu alayhi was sallam) and that we have love for one another even if have never seen each other.

Also thank you for the refrences about the books. Has anyone here ever dealt with neelwafurat.com? How reliable are they in sending the books in a timely manner?


rami nsour

Husain
14-12-2007, 01:57 AM
Has anyone here ever dealt with neelwafurat.com? How reliable are they in sending the books in a timely manner?


:ws:

I have dealt with them previously and experienced no problems at all.

Husain
16-12-2007, 12:34 PM
This (http://www.alukah.net/majles/showthread.php?p=72518) might also interest you.

Rami Nsour
07-01-2008, 04:34 AM
Thanks again. That is a very intresting and benefitial thread. I appreciate your help. May Allah reward you.

Rami

abuabbasmaliki1
20-03-2009, 05:31 AM
Salam `alaykum Shaykh Rami:

Here's something from the 4th section of Shaykh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri's "the Islamic Concept of Intermediation (Tawassul)".

I hope it helps.

Wassalam

Abi Abbas


" 1. Anas kept with him a pair of the Prophet’s shoes and a cup from which he used to drink. Bukhārī comments with reference to the pair of shoes:

‘Īsā bin Tahmān reported that Anas brought out a pair of old sandals and showed them to us. Each one of the pair had two laces. Then Thābit al-Bunānī, reporting it from Anas, told me that the pair of shoes belonged to the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).[10]

2. Similarly, according to another tradition, ‘Ubayd bin Jurayh said to ‘Abdullāh bin ‘Umar: “I see you wearing a pair of shoes shorn of hair.” ‘Abdullāh bin ‘Umar replied: “I have seen the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) wearing such shoes which are denuded of hair, and he used to put his feet into them after ablution. Therefore, I like to wear such shoes.”[11]

3. Qastallānī writes in his book al-Mawāhib-ul-laduniyyah (2:118-9) that ‘Abdullāh bin Mas‘ūd was one of the Prophet’s attendants and attended him with a pillow, a tooth-brush, a pair of sandals and water for ablution. When the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) stood up, he helped him put on the sandals, and when he sat down, ‘Abdullāh bin Mas‘ūd picked up the sandals and tucked them under his arms.

Qastallānī adds: One of the virtues, benefits and blessings of the Prophet’s sandals has been particularly stressed by Shaykh Abū Ja‘far bin ‘Abd-ul-Majīd. He says: I gave a sample of the pair of sandals to one of my students. One day he came over to me and said: yesterday, I discovered a strange blessing in the sandals. My wife was on the point of death from severe pain. I placed the sandals on the aching spot and said: O Allah! show me a miracle from the owner of this pair of sandals. Allah showed His mercy and my wife instantly recovered.[12]

Abū Bakr Ahmad bin Abū Muhammad ‘Abdullāh bin Husayn Qurtubī has given a poetic expression to his feelings about the pair of sandals:

Such shoes whose exalted status we acknowledged because only through this acknowledgement, we exalt ourselves. Therefore, they should be kept at a lofty place, because, in reality, these are the crown (on the head) although they appear to be shoes.[13]

When Imam Fakhānī cast his first glance at the sandals, he burst into a poetic expression:

And if the Madman of Laylā had been asked to choose between a meeting with Laylā and the pelf of the world, he would have spontaneously replied: “I hold the dust blowing up from her shoes even dearer than my own soul and it is the best cure for blowing off its problems”.

It is noteworthy that scholars from the Deoband school of thought have written books about the Prophet’s shoes:

1. Mawlānā Shihāb-ud-Dīn Ahmad Muqrī wrote a book called Fath-ul-muta‘āl fi madh-in-ni‘āl.

2. Mawlānā Ashraf ‘Alī Thānwī wrote a tract Nayl-ush-shifā bi-ni‘āl-il-Mustafā, which is part of his book Zād-us-sa‘īd.

Mawlānā Muhammad Zakariyyā Kandhalwī comments:

“The virtues and blessings of the Prophet’s sandals are found at the end of the tract Zād-us-Sa‘īd by Mawlānā Ashraf ‘Alī Thānwī. Anyone who is keen on details is advised to refer to it. In short, its blessings are infinite. The scholars have performed repeated experiments. If you keep them in your possession, you may see the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), you may be delivered from the oppressors and may achieve popularity. In brief, to depend on it as a source of intermediation is an unwavering guarantee of success. The method of intermediation is also explained in it.”[14]

This discussion clearly proves that the real capital is the unfathomed love for the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and the unflagging respect for the things and objects directly or indirectly associated with him, as has been poetically expressed by Imām Ahmad Rida Khan Barelawi [the same one who wrote al-Fatawa al-Ridawiyya in 30 volumes and many other books]:

“If I have a pair of the Prophet’s sandals to place on my head.
Then I shall consider myself no less than a properly crowned king.”

Bukhārī transmitted it in his as-Sahīh, b. of khumus (fifth part) ch.5 (3:1131#2940), b. of libās (dress) ch.40 (5:2200#5519-20); Tirmidhī in ash-Shamā’il-ul-Muhammadiyyah (p.83#73).

[11]. Related by Bukhārī in his as-Sahīh b. of libās (dress) ch.36 (5:2199#5513); and Tirmidhī in ash-Shamā’il-ul-Muhammadiyyah (p.84#74).

[12]. Qastallānī, al-Mawāhib-ul-laduniyyah (2:466-7).

[13]. Qastallānī, al-Mawāhib-ul-laduniyyah (2:470); Nabhānī, al-Anwār-ul-Muhammadiyyah (p.258).

[14]. Kandhalwī, Shamā’il Tirmidhī with Urdu commentary Khasā’il nabawī (p.77).

ENIGMA
20-03-2009, 11:13 AM
:salam:

:mash::mash::alhamd::subh:

We now have a genuine authentic reliable Maliki scholar on the forum.

May Allah prolong your stay here and we benefit from your knowledge.

Please please please can anyone tell me where I can get a English copy of the book Zaad us Saeed by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi :rahim: in the UK?

If it available abroad,any kind brothers willing to post it to the UK for me. I shall of course pay the price of postage along with the book.

Really really really want that book.

SY1
20-03-2009, 11:13 AM
wasalam

Can i pls ask a silly question

When the latter scholars and sh zakariya says keep the sandals with you, does that mean to have an origianal pair? or replica?

or does that mean the pictures that alot of people have in the house of the blessed sandal?

al-kakazai
20-03-2009, 05:25 PM
Salam

The work Fath al-Muta-al can be found in Shaykh Yusuf al-Nabhani's compendium of material on the Prophetic virtues entitled 'Jawahir al-Bihar'. I think I might have it on pdf, although it is of an old and not very clear edition.

Sayyid Muhammad Alawi al-Maliki's student in Madinah (Hussein Ali Shukri) also has an editing of the Ibn Asakir text, but it seems to be out of print.

Wassalam

AbdullahMaliki
20-03-2009, 09:23 PM
Assalamualeikum Shaykh Rami

I just wanted to confirm if you are the same Shaykh Rami that my teacher mentioned to us; his name is (Shaykh) Mehdi from the UK. He also studied in Mauritania under Murabit al-Hajj for many years.
He used to teach some fiqh classes in London and i remember him mentioning youself, i believe, and Shaykh Salik as being extremely well versed in Maliki fiqh (in response to a brother who was going to emigrate to the US and asked a question about studying fiqh there).
He spoke very highly of you and so i just wanted to welcome you and greet you personally, from myself and as a courtesy to my teacher (to respect those he holds in high regards.)
May Allah Most High bless you.

NNoor
21-03-2009, 02:46 AM
:salam:

Is there any place in the US where I can purchase a pair of the sandals?

Husain
21-03-2009, 04:02 AM
Assalamualeikum Shaykh Rami

I just wanted to confirm if you are the same Shaykh Rami that my teacher mentioned to us; his name is (Shaykh) Mehdi from the UK. He also studied in Mauritania under Murabit al-Hajj for many years.
He used to teach some fiqh classes in London and i remember him mentioning youself, i believe, and Shaykh Salik as being extremely well versed in Maliki fiqh (in response to a brother who was going to emigrate to the US and asked a question about studying fiqh there).
He spoke very highly of you and so i just wanted to welcome you and greet you personally, from myself and as a courtesy to my teacher (to respect those he holds in high regards.)
May Allah Most High bless you.

:ws:

Yes, it is the same Shaykh Rami.
Mahdi studied together with us at the Mahzarar(Madrasah) of Sh. Murabit al-Haj.
Please convey my salams (Husain Kadodia) to Shaykh Mahdi, if not too much of an inconvenience.

al-kakazai
21-03-2009, 10:56 AM
Salam

Here is the link for the Jawhir al-Bihar volume, somewhere in which the text Fath al-Muta'al by al-Maqqari is cited in full.

http://al-mostafa.info/data/arabic/depot3/gap.php?file=i000704.pdf

Please let me know if the link is correct.

I recall hearing in Sayyid al-Maliki's lesson on the Shamail that al-Nabhani further summarized/abridged/added/completed the text of al-Maqqari. The name of this text by al-Nabhani escapes me at the moment. Anyone having knowledge of this text please let us know, as it may perhaps be the most complete/succinct work on the blessed sandal which has been authored thus far.

Ws

AbdullahMaliki
21-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Assalamualeikum

Thank you for the confirmation Ameer Hussain. I will pass on your salams also inshallah. It's such a small world!

SY1
21-03-2009, 11:20 PM
wasalam

Can i pls ask a silly question

When the latter scholars and sh zakariya says keep the sandals with you, does that mean to have an origianal pair? or replica?

or does that mean the pictures that alot of people have in the house of the blessed sandal?


bump!!

Rami Nsour
22-03-2009, 04:11 PM
As-salamu alaykum to all,

Thank you Abu Abbas for the information about the sandal. Also, I thank Al-Kakazai for the PDF of Shaykh Nabhani's book, I have been looking for it. If you come across information about his abridgment of Fathul Muta-al, please do post it. Also, the book of Ibn Asakir you mentioned that was edited by Hussein Ali Shukri, do you have information on it? I have a friend who is doing Umrah and if can contact the Shaykh to get a copy that would be great. Do you know how one can contact him?

I also am requesting information on Ashraf Ali Thanwi's boos Zadus Saeed in either English or Arabic.

al-kakazai
22-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Salam

Im afraid I have lost contact with Shaykh Hussain Ali Shukri. I had a number for him written down on a piece of paper which I cannot find. I met him a few years ago and asked about the Ibn Asakir work, but he said it was out of print.

Since then I have seen his editing of Imam al-Qastallani's work on Salawat. I believe al-Qastallani is a student of Imam al-Sakhawi (?) and this work is even more detailed than the classic 'Qawl al-Badi'. Likewise Shaykh Hussain edited with great detail the 'Shifa al-Siqam' of Imam al-Subki. Both these works have been published by Dar al-Kutub al-Ilmiyah.

I got in contact with him when I saw Sayyid Muhammad bin Alawi al-Maliki in Masjid al-Nabawi al-Shaif accompanied by his students, whom I asked for his number. Perhaps your friend can go to Sayyid Maliki's sons school in Rusayfah in Makkah and ask there for details.

Ws

ENIGMA
22-03-2009, 09:08 PM
Salam

Im afraid I have lost contact with Shaykh Hussain Ali Shukri. I had a number for him written down on a piece of paper which I cannot find. I met him a few years ago and asked about the Ibn Asakir work, but he said it was out of print.

Since then I have seen his editing of Imam al-Qastallani's work on Salawat. I believe al-Qastallani is a student of Imam al-Sakhawi (?) and this work is even more detailed than the classic 'Qawl al-Badi'. Likewise Shaykh Hussain edited with great detail the 'Shifa al-Siqam' of Imam al-Subki. Both these works have been published by Dar al-Kutub al-Ilmiyah.

I got in contact with him when I saw Sayyid Muhammad bin Alawi al-Maliki in Masjid al-Nabawi al-Shaif accompanied by his students, whom I asked for his number. Perhaps your friend can go to Sayyid Maliki's sons school in Rusayfah in Makkah and ask there for details.

Ws

please tell me these books are available in English.

I also have information that a very good authentic translation is being made of 'qawl al Badi in English but it will be released end of this year or next year.

another request being made for zaadus saeed and shiyam al habeed. both wanted in English and Urdu and if anyone can find me a supplier form the UK, it'll be greatly appreciated.

Any other salat and salam books?

SY1
22-03-2009, 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by SY1
wasalam

Can i pls ask a silly question

When the latter scholars and sh zakariya says keep the sandals with you for benefit, does that mean to have an origianal pair? or replica?

or does that mean the pictures that alot of people have in the house of the blessed sandal?


bump

abuabbasmaliki1
24-03-2009, 12:59 AM
Wa `alaykum salam Shaykh Rami:

As for request Shaykh Rami in regards to Sh. Hussein Shukri - you can contact the family of Shaykh Muhammad bin `Alawi al-Maliki rahimahullah at 011-966-2-5361666 in order to recieve the details mentioned by al-Kakzai.


Wa Salamu `Alaykum wa rahmatullah


Abu Abbas al-Maliki

Saad
13-11-2009, 02:56 PM
Assalamualaikum

I happen to have a book called Zaadus Saeed by Hakimul Ummah Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi. Obviously its a local print but it does have a chapter on the Blessed Sandals of Rasulallah sallalahualayhiwasallam.

Also the local print I have of Fadaile Hajj by Hazrat Shaykhul Hadith Zakariyya Kandhlawi has the design of the blessed sandals.


Jazakumullah.

Assalam o alaykum,

Hakim al-Ummah Mawlana Thanwi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote Nayl al-Shifa bi Ni’al al-Mustafa and it had an image of sandals. But Mawlana Thanwi made ruju after he had a discussion on this topic with Mufti Azam Hind Kifayat Allah Dahalwi (may Allah have mercy on him) via letters. Mufti Hind writes in Kifayat al-Mufti that first of all it not even certain that these pictures are authentic and to treat a picture like a real thing is not proven from Shari’ah. Other wise what will stop others from making pictures of feet, hands, qamis, jubba, etc? Mawlana Thanwi agreed with the points raised by Mufti Sahib that this can lead to ghuluw and fitna among laymen. Mawlana Thanwi clearly mentioned that I retract from this booklet. Even if some scholars did treat these pictures with deep love then it was out of their immense love of Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) but then again it is not a proof (hujjah) in Shari’ah and can’t become a basis of any act. This discussion between the two is recorded in Kifayat al-Mufti and Imdad al-Fatawa.

As far as Shaykh al-Hadith Mawlana Zakariyya (may Allah have mercy on him) then he was not aware of retraction of Mawlana Thanwi or he would not have included the image in Fazail Hajj. .

Islahi Khutbat of Mufti Taqi Usmani also had the image of sandals on authority of Hakim al-Ummah. Mawlana Abd al-Qudus Tirmidhi, son of Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote to the compiler of Islahi Khutbat with scans of Imdad al-Fatawa and suggested that it should be removed. Then Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi himself talked to Mufti Taqi Usmani regarding this matter and on instructions of Mufti Taqi it was taken out from the next editions.

There is a fatwa from Dar al-Ulum Deoband dated 11-25-1417 by Mufti Saeed Ahmad Palanpuri, Mufti Muhammad Zafir al-Din and Mufti Nizam al-Din that these pictures of sandals or to kiss these for blessings have no basis.

That is why ‘Allamah Qadi Mazhar Hussain (khalifa majaz of Shaykh al-Islam Mawlana Madani /may Allah have mercy on them) writes that it is not allowed for anyone who considers himself a Deobandi to publish images of sandals as Mawlana Thanwi had stopped from it.

akrashdi
14-11-2009, 01:07 PM
JazakAllah Khair brother Saad. nice clarification.

There is place of 'Tabarrukaat' in islam, so Hazrat Hakim-ul-Ummat (RA)'s work was from that perspective, and what Hazrat Kifayatullah Dehlvi (RA) wants awam-un-naas to do is to actually follow in the footsteps of the Prophet (pbuh) rather than just satisfying themselves with those sandal images which even according to Mufti Saeed Palanpuri (db) have no basis.

Ahmad_shakeel
15-11-2009, 12:04 AM
Assalam o alaykum,

Hakim al-Ummah Mawlana Thanwi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote Nayl al-Shifa bi Ni’al al-Mustafa and it had an image of sandals. But Mawlana Thanwi made ruju after he had a discussion on this topic with Mufti Azam Hind Kifayat Allah Dahalwi (may Allah have mercy on him) via letters. Mufti Hind writes in Kifayat al-Mufti that first of all it not even certain that these pictures are authentic and to treat a picture like a real thing is not proven from Shari’ah. Other wise what will stop others from making pictures of feet, hands, qamis, jubba, etc? Mawlana Thanwi agreed with the points raised by Mufti Sahib that this can lead to ghuluw and fitna among laymen. Mawlana Thanwi clearly mentioned that I retract from this booklet. Even if some scholars did treat these pictures with deep love then it was out of their immense love of Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) but then again it is not a proof (hujjah) in Shari’ah and can’t become a basis of any act. This discussion between the two is recorded in Kifayat al-Mufti and Imdad al-Fatawa.

As far as Shaykh al-Hadith Mawlana Zakariyya (may Allah have mercy on him) then he was not aware of retraction of Mawlana Thanwi or he would not have included the image in Fazail Hajj. .

Islahi Khutbat of Mufti Taqi Usmani also had the image of sandals on authority of Hakim al-Ummah. Mawlana Abd al-Qudus Tirmidhi, son of Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote to the compiler of Islahi Khutbat with scans of Imdad al-Fatawa and suggested that it should be removed. Then Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi himself talked to Mufti Taqi Usmani regarding this matter and on instructions of Mufti Taqi it was taken out from the next editions.

There is a fatwa from Dar al-Ulum Deoband dated 11-25-1417 by Mufti Saeed Ahmad Palanpuri, Mufti Muhammad Zafir al-Din and Mufti Nizam al-Din that these pictures of sandals or to kiss these for blessings have no basis.

That is why ‘Allamah Qadi Mazhar Hussain (khalifa majaz of Shaykh al-Islam Mawlana Madani /may Allah have mercy on them) writes that it is not allowed for anyone who considers himself a Deobandi to publish images of sandals as Mawlana Thanwi had stopped from it.

:jazak:

:ws:

akrashdi
15-11-2009, 01:08 AM
But Mawlana Thanwi made ruju after he had a discussion on this topic with Mufti Azam Hind Kifayat Allah Dahalwi (may Allah have mercy on him) via letters.

By doing so, Hazrat Hakim-ul-Ummat (رحمہ اللہ) set a great example for upcoming scholars and students that their first and foremost responsibility is to maintain the credibility of Islam, even if they have to risk sometimes their own.

junaidjam
31-01-2010, 03:36 PM
Assalam o alaykum,

Hakim al-Ummah Mawlana Thanwi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote Nayl al-Shifa bi Ni’al al-Mustafa and it had an image of sandals. But Mawlana Thanwi made ruju after he had a discussion on this topic with Mufti Azam Hind Kifayat Allah Dahalwi (may Allah have mercy on him) via letters. Mufti Hind writes in Kifayat al-Mufti that first of all it not even certain that these pictures are authentic and to treat a picture like a real thing is not proven from Shari’ah. Other wise what will stop others from making pictures of feet, hands, qamis, jubba, etc? Mawlana Thanwi agreed with the points raised by Mufti Sahib that this can lead to ghuluw and fitna among laymen. Mawlana Thanwi clearly mentioned that I retract from this booklet. Even if some scholars did treat these pictures with deep love then it was out of their immense love of Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) but then again it is not a proof (hujjah) in Shari’ah and can’t become a basis of any act. This discussion between the two is recorded in Kifayat al-Mufti and Imdad al-Fatawa.

As far as Shaykh al-Hadith Mawlana Zakariyya (may Allah have mercy on him) then he was not aware of retraction of Mawlana Thanwi or he would not have included the image in Fazail Hajj. .

Islahi Khutbat of Mufti Taqi Usmani also had the image of sandals on authority of Hakim al-Ummah. Mawlana Abd al-Qudus Tirmidhi, son of Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi (may Allah have mercy on him) wrote to the compiler of Islahi Khutbat with scans of Imdad al-Fatawa and suggested that it should be removed. Then Mufti Abd al-Shakur Tirmidhi himself talked to Mufti Taqi Usmani regarding this matter and on instructions of Mufti Taqi it was taken out from the next editions.

There is a fatwa from Dar al-Ulum Deoband dated 11-25-1417 by Mufti Saeed Ahmad Palanpuri, Mufti Muhammad Zafir al-Din and Mufti Nizam al-Din that these pictures of sandals or to kiss these for blessings have no basis.

That is why ‘Allamah Qadi Mazhar Hussain (khalifa majaz of Shaykh al-Islam Mawlana Madani /may Allah have mercy on them) writes that it is not allowed for anyone who considers himself a Deobandi to publish images of sandals as Mawlana Thanwi had stopped from it.

Jazakallah for this as usual very interesting.

I don't know if you got my message. I asked how it could be allowed and then later shirk. Also, how can one of our akabirs even say such a thing like the picture or model of the Sandal mubaarak can be used for tawassul. Just explain this for everyone please. I ask this because Barei1wis often sell models of the sandal mubaarak in their booshops so it is something that has to be stopped.

Is there a book online with the information you gave above?

Is the book refuting Muhammad Alawi Makki online anywhere? When will it be put there.

suleimanibnsalim
06-02-2010, 07:38 PM
and then later shirk

I didn't realise that the Deobandi scholars considered it Shirk. Is this true?

Saad
06-02-2010, 07:40 PM
I didn't realise that the Deobandi scholars considered it Shirk. Is this true?

Asalam o alaykum,

Did you see the word 'shirk' mentioned anywhere in this thread?

suleimanibnsalim
07-02-2010, 12:23 PM
Mr Junaid said
I don't know if you got my message. I asked how it could be allowed and then later shirk.

Saad
07-02-2010, 05:17 PM
Assalam o alaykum,

Looks like he hasn’t read the posts either. Something being not allowed doesn't always become equivalent to shirk.

suleimanibnsalim
08-02-2010, 05:38 PM
Many scholars have allowed it. Would you be willing to agree to disagree? And since the `Ulama you have noted have declared it Haram, would it be a Kabirah or Saghirah?

junaidjam
09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Taking blessings from a drawing of the Sandal mubaarak has no proof. This is enough proof that it is haraam.

On Muhammad Alawi Maliki, I was surprised there are two opinions on him from ulema e haqq. One maulana said he was bigger defender of Bidat than Barei1wis and another said he was one of the biggest scholars on the earth! Why this difference?

suleimanibnsalim
09-02-2010, 05:55 PM
Taking blessings from a drawing of the Sandal mubaarak has no proof. This is enough proof that it is haraam.

الأصل في الأشياء الإباحة.


On Muhammad Alawi Maliki

Would you please call him by a respectable title dispite your disagreement with the noble Sayyid. Follow the example of Shaykh Zakariyya al-Khandalawi

Saad
09-02-2010, 06:07 PM
الأصل في الأشياء الإباحة.


Assalam o alaykum,

Read the discussion from page 107 in Al-Minhaj al-Wadih (http://www.4shared.com/file/65184141/a34a34c3/Al-Minhaj_al-Wadih_-_The_Path_.html).

Look for the chapter Is there initial permissibility in a thing?

ahlezikr
16-03-2010, 03:29 PM
:salam:

Is there any place in the US where I can purchase a pair of the sandals?

:salam:

Not in US, but you can buy in Asia and get it sent to you I suppose.

junaidjam
29-03-2010, 11:02 AM
الأصل في الأشياء الإباحة.


What does this mean?


Would you please call him by a respectable title dispite your disagreement with the noble Sayyid. Follow the example of Shaykh Zakariyya al-Khandalawi

I don't understand why he allowed it because this is one of the objections to ahle bidat in our time.