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lubna
05-01-2005, 10:07 AM
Assalamoalykum all
what are you talking about brothers! how can grave of our beloved prophet be more sacred than kaabah? if it was then it would have been the obligatory part of hajj to visit the grave.
if you love prophet muhammad SAW so much then you will show your love by adhering to every word and action of him, and not to his grave. yes you should go and visit it when you go for hajj, and yes it is of great importance to have the love of muhammad SAW in the most intense form, but please dont act like you are grave worshiping.i have heard some people even tried to do sajda to prophet muhammad's SAW grave....astaghfirullah, though i find it hard to beleive.
may Allah guide us all to the truth and keep us safe from the traps of shytan Ameen
wassalam
lubna
faqir
05-01-2005, 10:10 AM
Assalamoalykum all
what are you talking about brothers! how can grave of our beloved prophet be more sacred than kaabah?
Is Rasul Allah salallahu alayhi wasalam not the best of creation?
muslim786
05-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Assalamoalykum all
what are you talking about brothers! how can grave of our beloved prophet be more sacred than kaabah? if it was then it would have been the obligatory part of hajj to visit the grave.
if you love prophet muhammad SAW so much then you will show your love by adhering to every word and action of him, and not to his grave. yes you should go and visit it when you go for hajj, and yes it is of great importance to have the love of muhammad SAW in the most intense form, but please dont act like you are grave worshiping.i have heard some people even tried to do sajda to prophet muhammad's SAW grave....astaghfirullah, though i find it hard to beleive.
may Allah guide us all to the truth and keep us safe from the traps of shytan Ameen
wassalam
lubna
Dear Sister:
According to Ijma, as brother Salman has pointed out, the Prophets grave is more blessed than the Kaabah and the Arsh.
faqir
05-01-2005, 10:21 AM
salam , sister Here is the answer. since you are Hanafi also, you will see what they say:
According to the consensus (ijma’) of all the scholars, the piece of land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) is more virtuous than anything and everything which includes the Ka’ba and the throne (arsh) of Allah Most High.
The great Hadith scholar and Hanafi jurist (faqih), Mulla Ali al-Qari (Allah have mercy on him) states in his al-Maslak al-Mutaqassit fi al-Mansak al-Mutawassit, a commentary on Imam al-Sindhi’s Lubab al-Manasic (aka: Manasic Mulla Ali al-Qari):
“All the scholars agree on the fact that the most virtuous of cities are the cities of Makkah al-Mukarramah and Madina al-Munawwarah, Allah increase them in honour and respect. Then the scholars differed as to which one of the two is more virtuous…Some stated that Makkah is more virtuous than Madinah and this is the opinion of the three Imams (m: Abu Hanifa, Shafi’i and Malik), and has also been narrated from some Companions (Allah be pleased with them). Others stated that Madinah is more virtuous than Makkah and this is the opinion of some Maliki scholars and those who followed them from the Shafi’i school. It was said that this was also narrated from some of the Companions (Allah be pleased with them). It is possible that this was during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) or it was for those who migrated to Madinah from Makkah (muhajirun). Another (third) opinion states that they are both equal but this opinion is unknown, unrelated and incomprehensible. It seems that those who held this view saw the contradiction between the actions of the Ulama and the contradiction in the proofs, thus opted to remain silent (m: and not hold one more virtuous over the other).
However, the above difference of opinion is with regards to other than the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and the Ka’ba, for Ka’ba is more virtuous than Madinah with the exception of the Prophet’s (Allah bless him & give him peace) grave according to all the scholars. Similarly, the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is more virtuous than Masjid al-Haram without any difference of opinion among the scholars. So much so that the majority of the scholars (jumhur) have stated that, the piece of land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the most virtuous of lands on the face of this earth by the consensus (ijma’) of all the scholars…even more virtuous than Ka’ba…and the throne (arsh), as some of them have explicitly mentioned.
Thus, Qadhi Iyadh and others (Allah have mercy on them all) have related the consensus of the Ummah on the fact that the land on which lies the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is more virtuous than even Ka’ba, and that the difference of opinion among the scholars is besides the grave.” (Manasic Mulla Ali al-Qari, p. 531-532)
Qadhi Iyadh al-Maliki (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“There is no difference of opinion (la khilaf) in that the grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the most virtuous land on earth.” (al-Shifa’ bi ta’rif huquq al-Mustafa, p. 595)
The great Hanafi jurist (faqih), Imam al-Haskafi (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“And Makkah is more virtuous than Madinah according to the preferred opinion with the exception of the land on which rests the blessed body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), for that is virtuous unrestrictedly (mutlaqan), even more than Ka’ba, Arsh and the Kursi.”
Allama Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) also agrees with the above statement of Imam al-Haskafi in his super-commentary (hashiya), thus relates from the Manasic of Mulla Ali al-Qari, which has been mentioned earlier.
Therefore, there is complete consensus of the Ulama on the fact that the area of the land on which rests the body of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) i.e. his grace is more blessed and more virtuous than everything which includes the Ka’ba and the throne of Allah Almighty.
This is in accordance with the belief of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah that only Allah Almighty Himself has a greater rank than the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is the best and most beloved of all creation, thus even the land where his body rests was given this status that it became the most virtuous of lands.
Some people may think how can the grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) be more virtuous than even the throne (arsh) of Allah Most High? The answer to this is that Allah Most High is not sitting (in every sense of the word) on his throne. He is pure from time and space, thus the Aqidah of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah is that Allah Almighty is not restricted to any time or space, though His knowledge encompasses everything. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is resting in his blessed grave, although his soul may travel to other places.
And Allah knows best.
Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
muslim786
05-01-2005, 10:38 AM
Salamu alaikum
Thanks alot bro Faqir. Me and Salman love you... youre the man :cheesygri
(Im clever aint i - salman)
lubna
05-01-2005, 11:48 AM
Assalamoalykum all
ok, now i am on my quest to verify what you just told me and will use my sources to convince me . inshaALlah will come back to you either agreeing with you or asking you more questions. as to seek knowldge is compulsory on all muslim men and women, and you seek it by asking questions to those who know i.e the people of knowledge.
and please dont be offended if i am not convinced as yet.... to verify things is my right. and to educate me is your duty. whether you are successful or not is not your problem. but be assured i am willing to learn inshaALlah.
wassalam
lubna
salman
05-01-2005, 11:56 AM
Assalamoalykum all
ok, now i am on my quest to verify what you just told me and will use my sources to convince me . inshaALlah will come back to you either agreeing with you or asking you more questions. as to seek knowldge is compulsory on all muslim men and women, and you seek it by asking questions to those who know i.e the people of knowledge.
and please dont be offended if i am not convinced as yet.... to verify things is my right. and to educate me is your duty. whether you are successful or not is not your problem. but be assured i am willing to learn inshaALlah.
wassalam
lubna
Salamu Alaikum
Sister, willing to learn is one thing - but questioning Ijma is another. Ijma means consensus of the scholars. It is the third source of law. Even if you were to find something contradicting the above belief, your opinion would be rejected since then your opinion would accuse the whole ulema of misguidance on this specific issue - something impossible.
The Prophet - Allah bless him and greet him - stated "alaykum bi al-sawad al-a`zam" i.e. "follow the greater mass" and this means the greater mass of ulema. Further, Imam Shafi states in his Risala:
- The Prophet's order that men should follow the Muslim community is a proof that the Ijma` of the Muslims is binding.
He then states:
- By "congregation of Muslims" he (the Prophet) actually means the experts of independent reasoning (ahl al-ijtihad) and legal answers in the obscure matters which require insight and investigation, as well as the agreement of the Community of Muslims concerning what is obligatorily known of the religion with its decisive proofs.
Further my sister, we are not capable of actually "verify"ing through use of our "sources", unless ofcourse if you mean scholars themselves. Once again though iw ould just like you to know that Allama Ibn Abidin and Imam Haskafi and Mulla Ali qari are probably a few of the most famous Hanafis ever. Allamah ibn Abidins Hashiya is the most well known and widely used Fiqh text for the Hanafis, both in the subcontinent and the Arab world.
Finally:
- Anyone who deliberately dissents with the Consensus that he knows and understands is in place: he is an apostate and disbeliever by Consensus.
Source: Ibn Hazm, Maratib al-ijma` pg. 126.
However, i do not accuse you of anything - since currently you do not know or understand this properly, but know that you will have to and it cannto be rejected. Rejecting Ijma is very grave - but alhamdulilah you should verify with other ulema if it makes your belief more firm and im sure they will tell you the same as others have.
And May Allah help us succeed.
Please do not take any offense to what i have said.
wasalam
Yaseen
05-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Asalamu'alykum
Indeed, the resting place of blessed Prophet salallahu'alyhi wasalaam is without doubt the most blessed place on earth. I am no scholar but I am sure even those with very limited knowledge like myself on the basis of the sources the learned bros have quoted can come to this conclusion.
We've got to bear in mind why Madina has attained such a status. After all
it is in Madina rests the greatest of all creation, the intercessor of sinners.
Also I am sure there is a hadith in which the Prophets salallahu'alyhi wasalaam states that a portion of Masjid e Nabvi is Riyaadh-ul-Jannah- heaven on earth. I think this is one the reasons that a lot of Muslims yearn to visit Madina so much. After all we are all striving for jannah-madina provides with a glimpse of this jannah on this very earth.
May Allah give us the taufeeq to visit the ka'ba and the Prophets salallahu'alyhi wasalams grave at least once in our lifetime.
Wasalaam
lubna
05-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Also I am sure there is a hadith in which the Prophets salallahu'alyhi wasalaam states that a portion of Masjid e Nabvi is Riyaadh-ul-Jannah-Wasalaam
Assalamoalykum
the place that is called riyadul-jannah , lies between the mimber and the roza-e rasool SAW. so its not the grave itself!
may Allah guide us all to the truth
wassalam
lubna
lubna
05-01-2005, 10:32 PM
Salamu Alaikum
Sister, willing to learn is one thing - but questioning Ijma is another. Ijma means consensus of the scholars. It is the third source of law. Even if you were to find something contradicting the above belief, your opinion would be rejected since then your opinion would accuse the whole ulema of misguidance on this specific issue - something impossible.
Further my sister, we are not capable of actually "verify"ing through use of our "sources", unless ofcourse if you mean scholars themselves. Once again though iw ould just like you to know that Allama Ibn Abidin and Imam Haskafi and Mulla Ali qari are probably a few of the most famous Hanafis ever. Allamah ibn Abidins Hashiya is the most well known and widely used Fiqh text for the Hanafis, both in the subcontinent and the Arab world.
can you please support your claim by Quraan and hadeeth? cos prophet muhammad's SAW grave being most blessed than kaaba and Arsh ,is not a minor thing! it has to be reported at least by sahabah RA.
and how about our imam Abu haneefa and his book on Aqeedah named Al Fiqah Al akbar, surely it must be in there! so why not no mention of his name/book? i would rather follow imam abu haneefa than ''Allamah ibn Abidins Hashiya ''
Finally:
- Anyone who deliberately dissents with the Consensus that he knows and understands is in place: he is an apostate and disbeliever by Consensus.
Source: Ibn Hazm, Maratib al-ijma` pg. 126.
However, i do not accuse you of anything - since currently you do not know or understand this properly, but know that you will have to and it cannto be rejected. Rejecting Ijma is very grave - but alhamdulilah you should verify with other ulema if it makes your belief more firm and im sure they will tell you the same as others have..
jazakallah for 1st threatning me of apostacy and then letting me off...phew!! what a relief!
which one is graver...... rejecting Ijma? or doing shirk?
i can understand where you are coming from, but i dont want to go there inshaAllah.
i am sorry to bust your bubbles brothers, but this 'less knowledgeable '' sister of yours doesnt agree with you. and prophets' SAW resting place is not more sacred than kaaba and Arsh. i love my prophet SAW and you love him too, and thats all that is important. the dissagreements can wait till yaumul qiyamah. we have both said what we believe in, so will end my conversation with you all by this note,
''to you be your way and to me be mine''
and we will let Allah decide on the day of judgement between us inshaAllah.
i am the odd one out in your crowed any way..... ;) so i will say what Allah told me to say in the Quraan i.e 'salam' and i will move away inshaAllah.
Please do not take any offense to what i have said.
same request to you brother.
may Allah guide us all to the truth and keep us safe from the traps of shytaan Ameen
wassalam
lubna
faqir
05-01-2005, 10:56 PM
Asalamu alaykum sister,
I think you fail to realise that the grave of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam contains none other than the best of creation - namely, the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam. This is why his grave is considered more blessed than the Ka'bah and the Arsh.
Unless you can convince me that the ka'bah, the arsh or any other creation of Allah ta'ala is better than the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam I cannot see the cause of your objection..... Allah ta'ala does not live in the Ka'bah nor is He sitting on the arsh - He is not limited to His creation of time and space. Thus, we are not saying that we love our Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam more than we love Allah ta'ala in saying what has already been said above. To accuse us of shirk is an incorrect accusation for which you have given no explanation nor anything resembling proof.
For proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah that the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam is the "best of creation" please see:
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/best.htm
For proofs that the Prophets are alive in their graves please see:
http://www.daruliftaa.com/question.asp?txt_QuestionID=q-20034677
And Allah knows best.
Wasalam.
salman
05-01-2005, 11:52 PM
Salamu Alaikum
can you please support your claim by Quraan and hadeeth? cos prophet muhammad's SAW grave being most blessed than kaaba and Arsh ,is not a minor thing! it has to be reported at least by sahabah RA.
The Qur'an states:
"Ask those who know"
The hadith of the Prophet says:
"Follow the greater mass" and/or "follow the Jamaah"
It is impossible to conceive this greater mass as the ordinary people - rather what is known is that it refers to the scholars. So Ijma is binding on you, and if you fail to accept ot you accuse all the scholars of Ahly Sunnah of Shirk and apostacy - which is in itself tantamount to Kufr or Fisq.
As for coming from the Sahab, then yes it has:
With respect to his foremost name - Muhammad - consider the poetic verse of Sayyidina Hassan ibn Thabit :
wa shaqqa lahu min ismihi liyujillahu
fa dhul-`arshi Mahmûdun wa hadha Muhammadu
Meaning:
And He drew out for him [a name]
from His own Name so as to dignify him greatly:
The Owner of the Throne is the Glorious [Ahmad],
and this is the Praiseworthy [Muhammad]!
and how about our imam Abu haneefa and his book on Aqeedah named Al Fiqah Al akbar, surely it must be in there! so why not no mention of his name/book? i would rather follow imam abu haneefa than ''Allamah ibn Abidins Hashiya ''
Mocking Allama Ibn Abiding could lead to Fisq according to the Fuqaha themselves, so i would caution you in doing so because he is by far the greatest Hanafi Scholar to come withint the past few centuries and his Hashiya is the most widely used and the pirmary Hanafi reference for All Hanafi scholars all around the world. As the Hadith Qudis states:
- Whoever shows enemity to my friend, I have declared war on Him.
As for this not coming from Imam Abu hanifa in his Fiqh Al Akbar - the Imam Abu hanifas Fiqh al Akbar was not a detailed analysis into Aqidah, rather it was just fundamental points and the book itself is not authentically established to be from Imam Abu hanifa.
Secondly, there was no need for Imam Abu Hanifa to mention this - nor is there anything contradictory from him which allows us to reject the above. What is known is that the Scholars have all agreed on this point. Not mentioning something is not negating it.
jazakallah for 1st threatning me of apostacy and then letting me off...phew!! what a relief!
It wasnt a threat at all - but a principle everyone should know lest they unknowingly fall out of the pale of Islam.
As for your implication of Shirk - then as a i said before. Accusing the whoel ulema of misguidance in itself Kufr as is rejecting Ijma.
i am sorry to bust your bubbles brothers, but this 'less knowledgeable '' sister of yours doesnt agree with you. and prophets' SAW resting place is not more sacred than kaaba and Arsh
You dont have to agree with us - what you hsould have said was "I dont agree with the Ulema" because in reality, it is not us who are making this up, but the Ulema who have stated this, on whom we rely.
The Kaabah is a creation as is the Arsh - and it is known that the Prophet is the Best of creation. He is the cause for the creation of this universe.
Abd al-Salam ibn Ibrahim al-Laqqani in Sharh Jawharat al-Tawhid states:
- It is obligatory (wajib) on every legally responsible person to believe that he - peace be upon him - is the best of all, and one who denies it commits a sin, is guilty of innovation, and deserves to be taught a lesson.
Following is a list of works containing proofs from the Qur'an and Sunna of the superiority of the Prophet (SAWS) over all creation:
1. Al-Qadi `Iyad, al-Shifa' fi Ma`rifati Huquq al-Mustafa (SAWS)
2. Abu Nu`aym, Dala'il al-Nubuwwa
3. Al-Bayhaqi, Dala'il al-Nubuwwa
4. Al-Faryabi, Dala'il al-Nubuwwa
5. Ibn al-Jawzi, al-Wafa bi Ahwal al-Mustafa (SAWS)
6. Ibn `Abd al-Salam, Bidayat al-Sul fi Tafdil al-Rasul
7. Ibn Dihya, al-Mustawfa li Asma' al-Mustafa (SAWS)
8. Al-`Azafi, Sharh Asma' al-Nabi (SAWS)
9. Ibn al-`Arabi's Chapter on the Prophetic Names in `Aridat al-Ahwadhi
10. Al-Bayhaqi's Chapter on the Prophetic Names in Shu`ab al-Iman
11. Al-Busiri, al-Burda
12. Al-Busiri, al-Hamziyya
13. Al-Busiri, al-Muhammadiyya
14. Al-Suyuti, al-Khasa'is al-Kubra
15. Al-Suyuti, al-Bahja al-Bahiyya fil-Asma' al-Nabawiyya
16. Al-Suyuti, al-Riyad al-Aniqa fi Sharh Asma' Khayr al-Khaliqa
17. Al-Jazuli, Dala'il al-Khayrat
18. Al-Fasi, Sharh Dala'il al-Khayrat
19. Al-Sakhawi, al-Qawl al-Badi` fi al-Salat `ala al-Nabi al-Shafi`
20. Al-Qastallani, al-Mawahib al-Laduniyya
21. Al-Zurqani, Sharh al-Mawahib
22. Al-Qari, Sharh al-Shifa'
23. Al-Qari, Sharh al-Shama'il al-Nabawiyya li al-Tirmidhi
24. Al-Munawi, Sharh al-Shama'il al-Nabawiyya li al-Tirmidhi
25. Al-Baghawi, Sharh al-Shama'il al-Nabawiyya li al-Tirmidhi
26. Al-Nabahani, al-Asma fima li Sayyidina Muhammad min al-Asma
27. Al-Nabahani, Wasa'il al-Wusul ila Shama'il al-Rasul
28. Al-Nabahani, Shawahid al-Haqq
29. Al-Nabahani, Nujum al-Muhtadin wa Rujum al-Mu`tadin
30. Al-Nabahani, Jawahir al-Bihar fi Fada'il al-Nabi al-Mukhtar
31. Al-Lahji, Muntaha al-Sul Sharh Wasa'il al-Wusul li al-Nabahani
32. Al-Jamal, Hashiyat al-Hamziyya
33. Al-Haytami, Hashiyat al-Hamziyya
34. Al-Dabbagh, al-Ibriz min Kalam Sayyidi `Abd al-`Aziz
35. `Abd Allah al-Ghumari, Dilalat al-Qur'ani al-Mubin `ala anna
al-Nabiyya Afdalu al-`Alamin
36. Al-Maliki, Muhammad (SAWS) al-Insanu al-Kamil (esp. p. 181-213, 4th
ed.)
37. Sirajuddin, Sayyiduna Muhammad (SAWS)
To conlude - i will quote Shaikh Ibn taymiyya who said:
- Muhammad - upon him blessings and peace - is the Chief of the Children of Adam, the Best of Creation, the noblest of them in the sight of Allah. This is why some have said that "Allah created the Universe due to him," or that "Were it not for him, He would have neither created a Throne, nor a Footstool, nor a heaven, earth, sun or moon." However, this is not a hadith on the authority of the Prophet - upon him blessings and peace... but it may be explained from a correct aspect...
Since man is the seal and last of all creation, and its microcosm, and since the best of man is thus the best of all creation absolutely, then Muhammad -upon him blessings and peace, being the Pupil of the Eye, the Axis of the Mill, and the Distributor to the Collective, is as it were the Ultimate Purpose from amongst all the purposes of creation. Thus it cannot be denied to say that "Due to him all of this was created," or that "Were it not for him, all this would not have been created," so if statements like this are thus explained according to what the Book and the Sunna indicate, it is acceptable.
(Majmu`at al-Fatawa (11:95-97))
And Allah forgive our mistakes.
Mossy
06-01-2005, 12:16 AM
Medina is so much nicer than makkah. You get more of a feeling of community and peace, rather than mefirstedness.
Looking at the below discussion, I think it should be noted that just because something is sacred, it doesn't mean we pray towards it (right?).
Kabah is qiblah currently, so we pray towards that. Was it always? No.
We don't pray towards it because it's got a sacred/fancy rock in it, we pray to it because we are told to pray towards it when doing our salat to Allah (swt).
So, nobody does sajdah there (I hope), nobody worships the grave, but we do to pay it our respects.
It's not the grave that's sacred, it's the person that's in it.. Right? Best of creation indeed.
I'm sure things will be ok when sr lubna consults the hanafi scholars she trusts due to ijma - trust is something that takes time to build :)
HamzaJibrail
13-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Medina is so much nicer than makkah. You get more of a feeling of community and peace, rather than mefirstedness.
see thats what it leads to.. We love al-mecca and we love al-medina, the house of Allah is most the blessed and the house of his Rasul (sallalaho alaihi wassalam) the next best, as simple as that. And as three of the aima`s i.e Imam Shafi`i, Imam Malik, Imam Abu hanifa held this opinion so theres nothing wrong in holding this view.
Wa alaykumus salam
Mossy
13-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Which areas you personally feel most comfortable with are indeed your own - the question of whether x is more sacred than y (a fiqh question) does not necessarily mean that the entire environs are superior. I personally haven't visited the grave of the Prophet (pbuh) in Medina, but have kissed the kabah.. But I prefer Medina as a whole - individual, non-fiqh call :)
Yasin786
15-01-2005, 11:06 AM
Salam Alaikum
The home of Rasullulah (s.a.w) is infact greater then Mecca. How can you say that Rasullulah (s.a.w) is not greater then Kaaba? You are not understand that he is the best of CREATION. And EVERYTHING was created for his sake, the Kaaba, Janaat, everything in EXISTANCE. what is the Kaaba, it is our most holy place. But in the eyes of Allah what is more important the Kaaba or Prophet Muhammed (s.a.w)? It is not his grave, this is his home. That is where he lives, Prophet Muhammed (s.a.w) is not dead. Infact many scholars say it is extremely wrong to say this. Allah's beloved is more important to him and he loves him more then EVERYONE including all the Ambiya and Awliyah and EVERYTHING combined. And everything was created for the Sake of Rasullulah (s.a.w). So in turn, the home of Rasullulah (s.a.w) is the most holy place because it is the home of the best of creation, better then the Kaaba, better then the Arsh, better then the Kursi. These things Allah created, but he only created 1 best of creation, this objects are nothing compared to Seyyiddinna Muhammed (S.a.w) in Allah's eyes. Understand that it is not his grave, it is his home and he IS THERE present. Why is it that when we make Salaawatul Nabi he replies us 10 times back according to Authentic Hadith? Because he and infact hear us and he is THERE in Medina and that is his bodies physical home. But again he is the best of creation, and like Salafi's say Shaytan is everywhere, but Rasulullah (S.a.w) the best of creation cant hear you? Ya Allah guide use to the right. All the scholars of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaat have said that you cannot do hajj without going to the home of Rasullulah (s.a.w). It may not be obligitory, but love is not obligitory, but to fulfill your Imaan you have to love Seyydinna Muhammed (s.a.w) more then everything and everyone. The Kaaba is something we pray towards for direction, it is there to keep us on the right path and always be facing in the way our Lord prescribed to our ailing selves, but he never said the Kaaba was so great, nor did it say anywhere how great the Arsh is. But when coming to the description of Seyyidinna Muhammed (S.a.w) all you hear is greatness greatness greatness. Kaaba is not in a literal sense the house of Allah, Allah needs no home nor does he need to be confined to anything. Allah is Allah and he is as he is, as for Seyyidinna Muhammed (s.a.w) it is his literal resting place for his physicallity. So this is why the Home of Prophet (s.a.w) is greater then Kaaba. Kaaba does not represent Allah, we Represent Allah, like it says in the Quran we are his Khalifa's on this earth. And Seyyidinna Muhammed is not only his Khalifa on this earth like all human beings, he is HABIB'ALLAH the most beloved of EVERYTHING.The mesjid is just a Mesjid, without Rasullulah it is nothing. But because it contains the physical intact body of Rasullulah (s.a.w) that is why it is the greatest. And Allah knows best
naeem_s
19-01-2005, 01:18 PM
and how about our imam Abu haneefa and his book on Aqeedah named Al Fiqah Al akbar, surely it must be in there! so why not no mention of his name/book? i would rather follow imam abu haneefa than ''Allamah ibn Abidins Hashiya ''
The Hanafi Madhab is not just Abu Hanifas legal opinions but the opinions of his Students (Abu Yusuf, Imam Muhammad) and all the Hanafi Scholars till today.
We take our knowledge from Quran, then Hadith, then Ijma, then Qiyas. Therefore Allamah Ibn Abideen's opinion counts and has strong weighting.
If there is Ijma on this issue what's the fuss?
HamzaJibrail
21-01-2005, 12:49 PM
RasulAllah sallalaho is the most blessed creation of Allah, no denying that.
"Baad az khuda buzurg tu`i kissa mukhtasar"
Yaseen
21-01-2005, 11:50 PM
RasulAllah sallalaho is the most blessed creation of Allah, no denying that.
"Baad az khuda buzurg tu`i kissa mukhtasar"
Without doubt. Who is this fantastic quote attributed to?
Jazakaalah khair
Aqdas
28-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Shaykh Sa'di, I think.
HamzaJibrail
28-01-2005, 07:47 PM
Yes, this is one of the most fantastic quartrain`s from sheikh saadi shirazi (Rahmatullah Alaihi), it goes like :
ya sahib al jamal wa ya sayyidal Bashar
Min Wajhikal Muneer laqad Nawwiral Qamar
La Yum Kinus Sana o Kama Kana Haqquhu
Baad Az Khuda Buzurg Tu-ee Kissa Mukhtasar
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