Islam in your family.

[abdul518ca]

Assalamualaikum,

Here's the situation in my family:

Father: Practising. But doesn't care too much about knowledge, only prays Fardh, Sunnah, etc. :frown: He's against Tasawwfu also, he had BAD experiences with idiotic sufi-claimers in Pakistan, so he doesn't like to good Sufis either.

Mother: Practising. Does everything. But she's influenced by Dr. Farhat Hashmi, who isn't all that good, I've heard her label Hadhrat Moinuddin Chishti[ra] and his followers as 'Mushriks".:mad:

Brother: non-Practising, doesn't pray unless you force him to.

2nd Broher: non-Practising, doesn't pray unless you force him to.

It would be interesting to know how many people actually have pure Sunni parents?

[abdul518ca]

No one in my family follows a Madhab. I haven't across ANYONE whose parents actually follow a Madhab, or a Tariqa. My dad tells me to not get too comfy with Sheikh Zulfiqar and Sheikh Husain Abdul Sattar.:frown:

Ahsan, I dunno. I think I heard her say that Hadhrat Moinuddin[ra] was a a "Mushrik". She does a lot of good work for women in Pakistan, though. :p

[flux1]

Aslam brother
My situation is similiar to yours . I sympathise and say that you be strong and inshallah you will be a great role model to your fellow siblings just concentrate on your Iman and inshallah you will go far
Asalam

[Hypermodestmuslima]

A word about Farhat Hashmi: A reknowned Shaikh which was mentioned in this thread has mentioned nine out of ten things that she says is right. however, the tenth thing is the thing that causes the most fitnah.

[shishan]

Salam
here's my family:
Dad- Does everything (mashAllah)
Mom- Prays just the Sunnah
Older sis- Prays
Me- alhumdolillah, i pray
younger 2 sis- dont pray and have to be forced
bro-still too young, but im teaching him

InshaAllah u and ur family's faith will only get stronger :)

[Demon]

Mum and dad-Practising

Me and the sibs- Allah give us hidayah

[Muhammad al-Ayyub]

mum-prays
dad-dont give a toss.when prays...jus wait...wait...GIVES UP.
2sis-1pryas and 2nd gotta force.
Bro-force.
lil baby bro -jus said ALLAH

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

for all those that have to force their younger or older siblings to pray, did you realize that by forcing them t hat they could not be really praying?

they could be doing all the actions, but in their mind in that state they could be thinking of other things.. like why do they force me to pray? why cant they leave me alone? why cant they let me pray on my own? let me do as i choose? etc

I think if you teach your kids from an early on stage about prayer without the use of force that "YOU MUST DO THIS" though you should say, "I'm going to go pray so and so has come in, want to join me?" though you should not force them cuz that would push them away from the path of islam.

sometimes it can work and wake them up...but most of the time it can push them away cuz all that is in their mind is that they were FORCED to do it against their will....
so we have to ask our selves how we can convince them to pray without having the need to force them or make them feel that way..
maybe talking to them about their problems, issues, pressure that they're going through and relate to them can help us and help them deal with what they're missing out on insha'Allah.

When I was younger I missed a lot it was due to my parents forcing me, literally dragging me to the prayer mat and forcing me to pray. But the words didnt come out..I didnt feel it in my heart... And when you pray you have to feel the words in your heart.. you have to believe it...
yet how is that suppose to happen through force? even beating the child to force them, the child fears being beaten so they pray but showing in actions not in words....

it wasn't until they left me on my own to make my own decision that i started reading more and then i started praying on my own without them getting me, or forcing me... it was a change and they were surprised wondering what was it...i dont think it was their force i think it was cuz they left it to me and that they didnt say you must do it rather they said ok its up to you..and i felt it right then in my heart that its something i have to do cuz its right for me... and when i prayed then it felt real, and calm, and i felt at peace... all the problems i had went away.. didnt matter it wasnt important or that it was important yet these prayers healed me, and i understood the words that i was praying and the actions it was that intense.

anyways my point is that the ones that are forced prob dont feel that way and you need to find a way to get them in that stage insha'Allah.

[abdul518ca]

I think if you teach your kids from an early on stage about prayer without the use of force that "YOU MUST DO THIS" though you should say, "I'm going to go pray so and so has come in, want to join me?" though you should not force them cuz that would push them away from the path of islam.
A very nice approach. Never thought of that before. But you can't do that if your brothers are like 16 years old.

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

A very nice approach. Never thought of that before. But you can't do that if your brothers are like 16 years old.



assalamu alaikum wr wb

that's the point, not to start teaching them about prayer after puberty or forcing them to pray when they're in teen years but teaching them about it all when they're little kids like toddlers and school age age...

[Noor ul Islam]

Salam o alaikum.



Both mom and dad like Dr. Farhat, which saddens me. Though both are indifferent towards Tasawwuf. They don't mind me being the follower of Sheikh Nuh. Though both stress on "learning" the Quran, a Farhat Hashmi polemic. What they mean by that is that I should listen to some sort of tafsir or something. While I agree with that sentiment, I really can't abide by it because of a lack of traditional resources.

About Dr. Farhat labelling Hazrat Khwaja as a mushrik, she hasn't said that. In fact she has said favourable words about him. About his followers on the other hand, she didn't call them "Mushrik", she called their actions, wrong. To be honest, Dr. Farhat doesn't label anyone as kaafir or whatever, like the Salafis do. She is different kind of Ghayr Muqallid. I could honestly say that she has misunderstood Tasawwuf, and is being duped by the so-called shirkiyyah statements and acts that the psuedo-sufis engage in. She is against Wahdat al Wujood, which again saddens me becuase she hasn't understood it properly.

There are problems with her no doubt, but her message seems to be a good one. She does excellent tarbiyyat of her students, but seems to pass on the wrong kind of knowledge.

Her aqaid, are in accordance with the principle of Tafweed. She is NOT an anthropomorphist, a clear sign that as of yet, she hasn't been influenced by the Salafis. She is a self-study person, her only credentials being B.A./M.A. in Arabic from Islamabad, and a Ph.D. in Hadith from Glasgow, though I have heard that she went to Al-Azhar and Saudi as well. Her educational background is not traditional, and this is what we should be cautious of.

Ma'as Salam
Brother,
You are unaware of Dr.Farhat HAshmis fitnas in PAkistan. First of all she is a Ahle-HAdith and condemns sufis and saints. In Al-Huda which is an institution running under her patronage sufis are compared with Hindu Jogis. In her sermon held in Lahore few days back she asked the audience to take oath on telling the masses that Taqleed is shirk and that all of us are fuly capable of doing Ijtihad on our own and the Ulemas who stop us from Ijtihad are wrong. Sh ended with the words that sisters do you wow that you would tell this to everybody outside this hall.
Dr. Taqi Usmani aranged a meeting with her in Karachi just to debate with her on the Aqaids she was wrong. As she is influencing a lot of upper middle class women in Pakistan the Ulemas thought they they would advise her to stick to Tarbiyya and Tabligh and avoid the fiqhi masaail as she herself quotes that she is not even an Alima. But Dr.Farhat Hasmi didnot turn up while she was still in Karachi.
After that and her erratic Ijtihads Ulemas have asked the true Sunnis to refrain from her lecturesas there seem to be no end to her Ijtihads and Salfi ideas.Wassalam