Musnad Imam Abu Hanifa

[al_Zayn]

:salam:

I have come across Musnad Abu Hanifa, Author Abu Na'eem Asfaahi, in Arabic on the Net, is it authentic?

check the following site:

http://www.almeshkat.net/books/list.php?cat=8

Please let me know.

:jazak:

:ws:

[Husain]

:ws:

by Abu Nu'aim Asfahani.

If by authentic, you mean "Does it contain ahadith narated by Imam Saheb", then yes, it is authentic to a degree.

However it isn't a book written by Imam Saheb, rather Abu Nu'aim collected in this book all the narrations he could find, with Imam Saheb mentioned as a narrator of it, somewhere in the chain.
It is possible that someone had falsely attributed a narration to Imam saheb, which was then included in this book.

Also, this book, like most other books of hadith, contains ahadith which are strong, weak as well as very weak and maybe even fabricated.

[al_Zayn]

:ws:

by Abu Nu'aim Asfahani.

If by authentic, you mean "Does it contain ahadith narated by Imam Saheb", then yes, it is authentic to a degree.

However it isn't a book written by Imam Saheb, rather Abu Nu'aim collected in this book all the narrations he could find, with Imam Saheb mentioned as a narrator of it, somewhere in the chain.
It is possible that someone had falsely attributed a narration to Imam saheb, which was then included in this book.

Also, this book, like most other books of hadith, contains ahadith which are strong, weak as well as very weak and maybe even fabricated.

:salam:

:jazak: Mufti Saheb, sorry i meant "Asfahaani".

I wonder, are there other collections of Imam Sahib's narrations collected by other Scholars like Abu Na'eem?

can you please name them.

:jazak:

:ws:

[Hamood]

Kitab al-Athar of Imam Abu Hanifa

[Ali al-Hanafi]

:salam:

Allamah Shilbi Nu'mani (rahmatullahialay) discusses the issue in his book, 'Imam Abu Hanifah-Life and Works' or 'Seerat-e-Nu'man' in Urdu. If you have access to it read the chapter on Imam 'Abu Hanifah's writings'.
He mentions that Muhammad al-Khwarazami (rahmatullahialay) collected the different versions of the Musnad into one book and he done this from twelve different versions. But Allamah Nu'mani (rahmatullahialay) states that there are other versions also and he mentions four more. They are:

1. Musnad of Hafiz Abu Muhammad Abdullah bin Muhammad (rahmatullahialay)

2. Musnad of Imam Abul Qasim Talha (rahmatullahialay)

3. Musnad of Hafiz Abul Hassan Muhammad bin al Muzaffar (rahmatullahialay)

4. Musnad of Hafiz Abu Na'eem Isbahani (rahmatullahialay)

5. Musnad of Shaikh Abu Bakr al Ansari (rahmatullahialay)

6. Musnad of Imam Abu Ahmad al Bahrjani (rahmatullahialay)

7. Musnad of Imam Amr bin Hassan (rahmatullahialay)

8. Musnad of Abu Bakr al Kalaa'i (rahmatullahialay)

9. Musnad of Imam Abu Yusuf (rahmatullahialay)

10.Musnad of Imam Muhammad (rahmatullahialay)

11.Musnad of Imam Hammad (rahmatullahilay)

12.Musnad of Imam Abul Qasim al Adiy (rahmatullahialay)

13.Musnad of Hafiz Abdullah Hunain (rahmatullahialay)

14.Musnad of Hasfaki (rahmatullahialay)- Mullah Ali Qari (rahmatullahialay) has
written a commentary of this

15.Musnad of Maawardi (rahmatullahialay)

16.Musnad of Ibn Abdal Bazzari al Matoofi (rahmatullahialay) -I think that's what
it says.

[al_Zayn]

:jazak: Brothers...

I wanted to buy Muwatta' Imam Muhammad, which is translated into English...but i hear it is cheap online? can any Brothers give some links osi may purchase it.

:jazak:
:ws:

[Ali al-Hanafi]

:salam:

Try here (http://www.azharacademy.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=866).

[big_boss_nofal]

Assalam o Alaikum..!

brother....

1.first of all Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) had not written a single book of hadith.....
he was master of fiqah not hadith...

Shah Wali Ullah Hanafi (RhA) said:

"Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) was the person , by the narration of reference of whome not a single hadith is qouted by any Muhaddis of Saha Sitta"
<Musafa Shara Moata....book 1, page 6>

2. all the books of fiqah today present are compiled or written almost 200 years after imam (Rha).

3. some says that imam has a committee which wrote fiqah in the presence of imam ......
this is also wrong
coz
people which are said to be present in that commitee ... according to there confirmed date of birth or death.... most were not born in imams period and which were present were of 15 of 21 etc


so if somebody uses name of Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) , and said that these are saying of imam is wrong ....
even saying of imam in books of fiqah can not be proved that whether these are sying of imam or not coz there is not chain which leads to imam or by using one can check it for sahi or zaeef
like in case of hadith

Sahi is only Muslim , Moata and Bukhari acc to Shah wali Ullah....remaining 4 are mixture of Sahi and Zaeef ......which re seperated by various Muhadisseen

[Husain]

Assalam o Alaikum..!

brother....

1.first of all Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) had not written a single book of hadith.....
he was master of fiqah not hadith...

Shah Wali Ullah Hanafi (RhA) said:

"Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) was the person , by the narration of reference of whome not a single hadith is qouted by any Muhaddis of Saha Sitta"
<Musafa Shara Moata....book 1, page 6>

2. all the books of fiqah today present are compiled or written almost 200 years after imam (Rha).

3. some says that imam has a committee which wrote fiqah in the presence of imam ......
this is also wrong
coz
people which are said to be present in that commitee ... according to there confirmed date of birth or death.... most were not born in imams period and which were present were of 15 of 21 etc


so if somebody uses name of Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) , and said that these are saying of imam is wrong ....
even saying of imam in books of fiqah can not be proved that whether these are sying of imam or not coz there is not chain which leads to imam or by using one can check it for sahi or zaeef
like in case of hadith

Sahi is only Muslim , Moata and Bukhari acc to Shah wali Ullah....remaining 4 are mixture of Sahi and Zaeef ......which re seperated by various Muhadisseen

:ws:

Brother, your post is completely incorrect and full of errors.
Please restrict your posts to issues you have knowledge of, not issues you are totally ignorant of.

[big_boss_nofal]

Soofi Saheb ...!

Assalam O Alaikum

can u point out the errors ......!

the point that Imam Abu Hanifa (Rha) was master of fiqah not hadith... he had not travelled to get ahadith etc...... i read from <Seerut un Noman by Hazrat Shibli Nomani>

then i qouted shah wali ullah (rha)'s qout from <Mussaffa>

if u say me about date of birth and deaths etc.... Inshah Allah i can tell u more


DONT CONSIDER ME WRONG
I M NOT DEGRADING ANY ONE

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT .... QOUTING ANY THING WITH ANY PERSON WITHOUT PROOF IS NOT GOOD

DR ZAKIR NAIK SAYS THAT , AND I THINK WE SHOULD READ AND CHECK EVERYTHING WITH OPEN EYES,MIND AND HEART
OF ALL SECTS

ALLAH SAYS:

THOSE WHO LISTEN , AND THEN FOLLOW BEST OF THEM . THESE ARE THE PEOPLE BLESSED BY RIGHT PATH AND THAT R THE MINDFUL .
<AL ZUMER, CHAPTER # 39 , AYET #18>

[Husain]

Ok, let us start with this ludicrous claim of yours:



2. all the books of fiqah today present are compiled or written almost 200 years after imam (Rha).


Bring your "proof for this.

[big_boss_nofal]

Musnad Imam Abu Hanifa By Isfahaani...

Who Is Isfahani....?
To Whome He Got All Sayings...
When He Wrote This

Bukhari, Muslim,tirmizi, Ibn Maja, Musnad Ahmed,moata,nisaee Etc
Are The Books
Which Are Read And Praised And Qouted By Great Ulemas Of Every Time...

Musnad Ahmed Is Not The Authentic Book
U Will Not Get Any Zikr Of That Book In Any Great Scholer Book

Now .... Great Scholer Means Not Famous Or Which Is Liked By U ...
.... I Mean Means Ibn Taimiya, Ibn Qayyam, Ib Hajar, Shah Wali Ullah, Anwere Shah Kashmiri , Abdul Haee Lakhnavi , Mulla Ali Qari , Nazeer Hussain , Sadiq Hassan Etc Etc

[Husain]

Please answer the question, instead of posting more ludicrous posts, which don't substantiate your nonsensical statements in the least.

You made a claim, then insisted that you can prove it.

So prove it!

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Musnad Imam Abu Hanifa By Isfahaani...

Who Is Isfahani....?
To Whome He Got All Sayings...
When He Wrote This

Bukhari, Muslim,tirmizi, Ibn Maja, Musnad Ahmed,moata,nisaee Etc
Are The Books
Which Are Read And Praised And Qouted By Great Ulemas Of Every Time...

Musnad Ahmed Is Not The Authentic Book
U Will Not Get Any Zikr Of That Book In Any Great Scholer Book

Now .... Great Scholer Means Not Famous Or Which Is Liked By U ...
.... I Mean Means Ibn Taimiya, Ibn Qayyam, Ib Hajar, Shah Wali Ullah, Anwere Shah Kashmiri , Abdul Haee Lakhnavi , Mulla Ali Qari , Nazeer Hussain , Sadiq Hassan Etc Etc


اسلام علیکم بھای،
یار یہ کیا سوال ایران جواب توران لکھ رھے ھو؟
اگر انگلش نھیں آتی تو برائے مھربانی زبان کی ٹانگ نہ توٹھو۔۔
اردو میں لکھو کہ آپ کا مسئلہ کیا ہے؟ اور دوسروں کا وقت برباد کرنے سے پھلے سوچ سمجھ کر بات کرو۔۔۔ پھلے تولو پھر بولو


Please answer the question, instead of posting more ludicrous posts, which don't substantiate your nonsensical statements in the least.

You made a claim, then insisted that you can prove it.

So prove it!

Asslamo Allaikum Mufti Saheb,

Please ignore the random babble; I am sure that you have better things to do with your time. :lol:

[Sunni_Student786]

I would appreciate it if the brother would back up the first point with some proof so that the discussion could proceed accordingly.

I do think that the discussion can be fruitful, even if it seems like we've had this discussion with dozens (if not hundreds) of other people as well.

[big_boss_nofal]

ok Inshah Allah

i will give all with reference ...

i have made a research of this ..... i will give u complete references....
...... that Hanafi Books were written after 200 years of Imam e Azam

just wait for 2 days....
i will get data from home..

this was the thing ,, no Alim of my contact gave answere ,

[Husain]

ok Inshah Allah

i will give all with reference ...

i have made a research of this ..... i will give u complete references....
...... that Hanafi Books were written after 200 years of Imam e Azam

just wait for 2 days....


Still waiting
It is 5 days now!



this was the thing ,, no Alim of my contact gave answere ,

Whoever taught you this, deceived you.
You surely don't expect them to now bring forward proof for this lie, as it would expose them.

Yet you fell for it, hook, line and sinker!

[big_boss_nofal]

1. Qadoori by Ahmed bin Muhammad bin Ahmed Baghdadi (428 Ah) 5th Sadi Hijri Ref: Hadaiq ul hanafiya




2. Hadaya by Burhan uddin Ali bin abi Bakar Marghnani (593 Ah) 6th Sadi Hijri Ref: Kashfuz zanoon jld 2 pg 648


3. Muniya tul Musalla by Buddin Kashghari (593 Ah) 6th Sadi Hijri Ref: Kashfuz zanoon jld 2 pg 1886


4. Kanzul Daqaia By Abul barkat abdullah bin Ahmed (Hafiz uddin Nasfi) (710 Ah) 8th Sadi Hijri Ref: Kashfuz zanoon jld 2 pg 1515


5. Shara Waqaya by Ubaid ullah bin Masud Al Mehboobi (745 Ah) 8th Sadi Hijri Ref: halat ul musanifeen Darse Nizami pg 166

6. Durre Mukhtar by Muhammad Alao uddin bin Shekh ali Haskfi (1071 Ah) 11th Sadi Hijri Ref: Durre mukhtar jld 4 pg 517

7. Fatawa alamgiri by 500 hanafi ulemas 11 , 12 Ah on the order of Orangzeb alim gir Mughal emperor

8. Mala bd Minh by Qazi sana ullah pani pati (1225 ah) 13th sadi hijri ref: Al roz ul matoor pg 17

9 Bihishti Zever by hazrat Ashraf Ali thanvi RA 14th sadi hijri


There is no Sanad of a single fatwa of any book that leads to Imam abu hanifa RA like Hadith.
No ravis between auther of these book and imam abu hanifa.

Can u show me.....!

[Husain]

I repeat:

"Please answer the question, instead of posting more ludicrous posts, which don't substantiate your nonsensical statements in the least.

You made a claim, then insisted that you can prove it.

So prove it!"

Incase your memory is bad and you cannot remember the ludicrous claim you made, here it is:
" all the books of fiqah today present are compiled or written almost 200 years after imam (Rha)."

It is now nearly 20 days, that we are waiting for your "proof" for this statement.

[Sunni Muslim]

There is no Sanad of a single fatwa of any book that leads to Imam abu hanifa RA like Hadith.
No ravis between auther of these book and imam abu hanifa.

Can u show me.....!


Don't you know who was Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam al-Shaybani? Both of them are major Tullab of Imam Abu Hanifa, and they transmitted his fiqh in a number of books that have reached us via unbroen asanid! Then Imam al-Shaybani's books known as Zahir al-Riwaya came to the likes of Imam al-Sarakhsi who compiled the 30 volume magnum opus called al-Mabsut...

Have you not heard of Imam al-Tahawi (d. 321 AH) - who took Hanafi fiqh via unbroken sanad to Imam Abu Hanifah and his tullab, and he compiled Mukhtasar al-Tahawi, Ikhtilaf al-Ulama, Sharh Ma'ani al-Athar and Mushkil al-Athar, Ahkam al-Qur'an, his aqeeda etc.

Do some research before you make claims please.

[big_boss_nofal]

thanx for reply Sunni Muslim...!

it was claimed before me by someone.....
i researched about the hanafi fiqah books , there authers and there dates....

but about asnaad of the fatawa not a single hanafi alim of my contact gave me answere,,,,,,
some said : there is no need of this..
some said : ok we will provide u , then they didnot
some said : this is useless to waste time on this thing etc

even the molanas of Jamia Ashrafia Lahore did not answered.

r the Molana degree holders are ignorant of answere of this question.....?

i have spent time on this ..... not without research ....
ok Inshah Allah i will make research on ur answere . thnx

can u tell me the procedure to ask question on this forum and way to create thread.....?

[Talhah]

Kitab al-Athar of Imam Abu Hanifa

Well, r the Ahadith contained in these books authentic? i dont see our ulama quoting these books, much!

[Talhah]

:salam:

Allamah Shilbi Nu'mani (rahmatullahialay) discusses the issue in his book, 'Imam Abu Hanifah-Life and Works' or 'Seerat-e-Nu'man' in Urdu. If you have access to it read the chapter on Imam 'Abu Hanifah's writings'.
He mentions that Muhammad al-Khwarazami (rahmatullahialay) collected the different versions of the Musnad into one book and he done this from twelve different versions. But Allamah Nu'mani (rahmatullahialay) states that there are other versions also and he mentions four more. They are:
.......

I once heard dr.tahir-ul-qadri (tho i dont listen to him usually) that he searched these musnads of imam Abu Hanifah in various libraries (in iraq, etc), the no. of which added upto 30!

[Saad]

Assalam o alaykum,

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[Talhah]

salaam

jazakallah brother!

[Propagating_Haq]

thanx for reply Sunni Muslim...!

it was claimed before me by someone.....
i researched about the hanafi fiqah books , there authers and there dates....

but about asnaad of the fatawa not a single hanafi alim of my contact gave me answere,,,,,,
some said : there is no need of this..
some said : ok we will provide u , then they didnot
some said : this is useless to waste time on this thing etc

even the molanas of Jamia Ashrafia Lahore did not answered.

r the Molana degree holders are ignorant of answere of this question.....?

i have spent time on this ..... not without research ....
ok Inshah Allah i will make research on ur answere . thnx

can u tell me the procedure to ask question on this forum and way to create thread.....?


this guy is clearly another hater of the great imam ra like mufti hussain saheb said above he needs to back up his false claims, this is an old salafi trick but it wont work here inshallah.

[abulayl]

even the molanas of Jamia Ashrafia Lahore did not answered.

i have spent time on this ..... not without research ....

Researched answer= molanas didn´t asnwere.

no answer = reaserach!

[Ali al-Hanafi]

:salam:



[The Authenticity and Status of the Musnad of Imam Abu Hanifah (Rahmatullaialayh)]

Muhaddith Muhammad bin Ja'far Qattani Maliki (rahmatullahialayh) writes in Ar Risalatul Mustatir fi Lubyan, which is a unique book from amongst the books on the conditions of Hadith, after detailing the authentic six, Musnad Abi Hanifah, Mu'atta Malik, Musnad Shafi'i and Musnad Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on them all) the following:

"These are the books of the four Imams and adding them to the previous six completes those ten books which are the foundation books of Islam and upon which the Deen is dependent."

And Hafiz Abu Abdullah Muhammad bin Ali bin Hamza Husayni Damishqi (rahmatullahialayh) mentions in At Tazkirah Birrijal al 'Ashara (which is an extremely authoritative book on the Rijaal of these ten books (and) from which Hafiz ibn Hajar Asqalani (rahmatullahialayh) composed his Ta'jeel al Munfa'a biz Zawaahid Rijaal al A'imma [which is his famous book on the Rijaal of the conditions of the above four books of the four Imams]):

"The Musnad Imam Shafi'i (rahmatullahialayh) is composed on those proofs which from amongst the narrations of Imam Mamduh (rahmatullahialayh) he considered as Sahih and the same is the condition of Musnad Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh)."

Shah Waliullah Dehlwi (rahmatullahialayh) in his Qarah al Aynayn fi Tafseel al Shaykhayn has also included the Musnad Abi Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh)amongst the mother (source) books of the Hanafis and explained thus:

"The foundation of Hanafi Fiqh are the Musnad Abi Hanifa (rahmatullahialayh) and Athar Imam Muhammad (rahmatullahialayh)."

The explanation of Hafiz Husayni (rahmatullahialayh) just crossed your eyes...This Husayni (rahmatullahialayh) was not a Hanafi, he was a Shaf'i and is not included amongst the minor Muhadditheen but (was a) Hafiz of the time and (from amongst the) experts of the Sciences. Now another 'Arif of the time Allamah Dahr Shafi'i al Madhab. Look at what (the) Imam's opinion, whose famous name is Abdul Wahhab Sha'rani (rahmatullahialayh) is with regards to the Musnad Abi Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh), which he has written in his al Meezan al Kubra:

"Allah blessed me greatly by giving me the opportuity to study the authentic manuscripts of the three Musnads of Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullahialayh). These manuscripts contained the writings of a Hafiz of Hadith in which the last individual was Hafiz Dimyati (rahmatullahialayh)...In all three of the Musnads of Imam A'zam, whichever Hadith I found, I found it to be Sahih."

Musnad al Imam al A'zam Abi Hanifa an Nu'man min Riwaayah al Allamah Haskafi by Moulana Khursheed Ahmad (Lecturer of Hadith, Dar ul Uloom Deoband), pages 26-28.

[Maruf Ahmed]

Musnad Imam Abu Hanifa By Isfahaani...

Who Is Isfahani....?
To Whome He Got All Sayings...
When He Wrote This

Bukhari, Muslim,tirmizi, Ibn Maja, Musnad Ahmed,moata,nisaee Etc
Are The Books
Which Are Read And Praised And Qouted By Great Ulemas Of Every Time...

Musnad Ahmed Is Not The Authentic Book
U Will Not Get Any Zikr Of That Book In Any Great Scholer Book

Now .... Great Scholer Means Not Famous Or Which Is Liked By U ...
.... I Mean Means Ibn Taimiya, Ibn Qayyam, Ib Hajar, Shah Wali Ullah, Anwere Shah Kashmiri , Abdul Haee Lakhnavi , Mulla Ali Qari , Nazeer Hussain , Sadiq Hassan Etc Etc

That is, without a doubt, an ignorant claim! Do you not know that Imam Mulla Ali Qari wrote a commentary on the Musnad of Abu Hanifa (sharh-e-Musnad abi Hanifa)???

And who are you to declare who is a great scholar???? Do you not know who Imam Abu Nu'aim Isfahaani is??? Do you not know Badr ad-Deen al-Aini is?? Shamsul a'immah Imam Sarkhasi????? Where they ignorant??? Where they not 'great' scholars???

Imam Abu Hanifa (radiallahu anhu) is the grand teacher of all the Imams of Sihah Sitta!!! At his time, the requirment of compiling Hadith was not so big. Imam Abu Hanifa is a faqeeh and a Mujtahid by consensus. How can someone be a Mujtahid without the knowledge of Hadith???

Yes he hasnt narrated many hadith like Hasan Basri, Makki ibn Ibrahim, waki ibn al-Jarrah, that dies not degrade his status. Because Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (radiallahu anhu) also narrated very few hadith, but does not mean he wasnt aware of hadith.

All Imams of Sihah Sitta lived 200 years ofter Hijrah. That is when there was so much fitan and it was neccessary to scrutinise the isnads.

Before the Sihah Sitta, there were other compilations like;

1. Musannaf Abdur-Razzaq
2. Musnad Imam Ahmad
3. Musnad Imam Shaf'ii
And many more....

My point is; Just because a book is not cited often, it does not mean it is not Saheeh!!

and Zakir Naik?????? Is he a Muhaddith?? NO!

[maria_islam]

assalama-o-alaikum warahmatullah hi wabarakatuhu ......i am of hanafi maslak can u please suggest me any books of hadith by imaam abu hanifa ...i have haerd that imaam abu hanifa didnt write any books but his students did so....are they authentic.....i am totally confused please help me out here.....jazakallahukhairan assalama-o-alaikum warahmatullah hi wabarakatuhu

[Ali al-Hanafi]

assalama-o-alaikum warahmatullah hi wabarakatuhu ......i am of hanafi maslak can u please suggest me any books of hadith by imaam abu hanifa ...i have haerd that imaam abu hanifa didnt write any books but his students did so....are they authentic.....i am totally confused please help me out here.....jazakallahukhairan assalama-o-alaikum warahmatullah hi wabarakatuhu

:ws:

The Wasiyyah, Musnad and Kitab ul Athar are narrated from Imam Sahib (rahmatullahialayh) by his students though they weren't written by him per se. Many of the Hadiths found in the Mu'atta of Imam Muhammad (rahmatullahialayh) that Imam Muhammad (rahmatullahialayh) narrates as evidences for the Hanafi Madhab also seem to be taken from him. Imam Sahib (rahmatullahialayh) did write Al Fiqh al Akbar himslef.

[numanthabit]

Assalam o Alaikum..!

brother....

1.first of all Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) had not written a single book of hadith.....
he was master of fiqah not hadith...

Shah Wali Ullah Hanafi (RhA) said:

"Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) was the person , by the narration of reference of whome not a single hadith is qouted by any Muhaddis of Saha Sitta"
<Musafa Shara Moata....book 1, page 6>




Assalamu Alaikum

1. It has been accepted by followers of all maddhabs that Abu Hanifa was indeed a great muhaddith, a hafiz (memorizer of 100,00 ahadith with chains), and strong in it. The statements of the various weakeners of Abu Hanifa in hadith have been rejected based on enmity and hatred of him based on the fundamentals of jarh wat ta'deel (narrator criticism).

The criticism that none of Abu hanifa's hadith are narrated in Sihah Sittah is common. I'm not sure how correct the statement is (In tahdhib at tahdhib, Hafiz Ibn Hajar al Asqalani puts the letters ta and sin next to Imam Abu Hanifa's name, which means his narrations are in Sunan At Tirmidhi and Sunan An Nasa'i), but even if it is correct, none of Imam Shafi'i's narrations are in any of the Sihah Sittah, even when he is almost unanimously considered strong in hadith. So the criterion of being in the Sihah sittah to be considered a muhaddith is entirely incorrect.

The Salafis have adopted an incredibly simplistic notion towards fiqh and hadith. These days, even a hadith's presence in Sihah sittah is not sufficient--it has to be in either Bukhari or Muslim, otherwise, regardless of the chain's strength, the hadith will be unacceptable and discarded. This of course is problematic, as most of Islam would be lost if we could only dray rulings from Bukhari or Muslim.




2. all the books of fiqah today present are compiled or written almost 200 years after imam (Rha).



2. The Brother has had two years to prove his statements about all the books of the hanafi maddhab being compiled after 200 years after his death, and his been unable. However, no one knowledgeable of fiqh history would claim such a thing, as it is well known that Imam Muhammad's books, which form the basis of the Hanafi maddhab (even if they are not studied so closely today in favor of later texts like al Hidayah), wrote his books only after a few years Imam Abu Hanifa passed away.




3. some says that imam has a committee which wrote fiqah in the presence of imam ......
this is also wrong
coz
people which are said to be present in that commitee ... according to there confirmed date of birth or death.... most were not born in imams period and which were present were of 15 of 21 etc


so if somebody uses name of Imam Abu Hanifa (RhA) , and said that these are saying of imam is wrong ....
even saying of imam in books of fiqah can not be proved that whether these are sying of imam or not coz there is not chain which leads to imam or by using one can check it for sahi or zaeef
like in case of hadith

Sahi is only Muslim , Moata and Bukhari acc to Shah wali Ullah....remaining 4 are mixture of Sahi and Zaeef ......which re seperated by various Muhadisseen


3. Again, a ridiculous statement. It is well known that Abu Hanifa would only pass rulings when the consensus of all his students (many of whom were mujtahids in their own right) was reached. Abdullah ibn al Mubarak was in the presence of a man who criticized Abu Hanifa and his position, so he replied, "How can Abu Hanifah have gotten something wrong? For if he made a mistake, there was the likes of Abu Yusuf Muhammad ibn al Hasan and Zufar to correct him. And if not them, then the hundreds of other scholars he kept in his circle." Imam Ahmad said, "If three people agree on a position, then one must not consider anyone else's positions: Abu Hanifah, Abu Yusuf, and Muhammad ibn al-Hasan." One of the reasons that the Hanafi maddhab is considered so strong is that it is not just the maddhab of Imam Abu Hanifah, as the Maliki maddhab is the maddhab of Imam Malik, and the Shafi'i maddhab is the maddhab of Imam Shafi'i, but the maddhab of Imam Abu Hanifah is the maddhab of some fifty scholars who came to a decision on every single. No wonder the Salafis, who hate the Hanafi maddhab, are now trying to dispute this fact!

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i m not perfect in english but i will try my best , now i say u sumthing that if the muhadisain of siyah sitta does not take any hadith from any one, will not perfect in hadith???????????????????

wat do u think abt imam sha,fae???????
imam bukhari does not taking his riwayah.....
even imam muslim was the student of imam bukhai but in "saheeh" he does not take any hadaith....


is imam bukhari is not perfect????????????????