Celabrating un-Islamic fetivals

[Noor ul Islam]

AssalaamuAlaikum,
In Hanafi fiqh atleast it is a ruling one is prohibited from celebrating un-Islamic festivals like Halloween, Valentines day, Holi and so on.It is because of the resseblance to non-muslims. In a country like Pakistan these festivals are celebrated with shuch enthusiasm that it is difficult to stop the younger generation from celebrating them. I was wondering what is the stance of the followers of Ahle sunnah in european and American coutries as it is part of their culture and it is impossible to avoid such occassions in the West. What do they do or they donnot think that is prohibited in Islam. Wassallam.

[Zahra]

Assalamu Alaikum sister,

Alhamdullilah we should be grateful that we have two Eidain every year, when we can celebrate and give and receive gifts etc. Celebrating any other festivals than Eid is not permissable, according to hanafi fiqh.

I know its a shame that pakistan too has adopted the ways of the kafr with regards to celebrating non-islamic festivals but one does not have to follow the crowd. I personally live in the UK and feel you can avoid celebrating birthdays, valentines etc, in fact non-muslims tend to be more understaning than muslims when it comes to explaining why you don't celebrate these pointless, meaningless events.

For instance, birthdays, I used to celebrate them, but stopped doing so since last Summer. My muslim friends were perplexed as they felt birthdays were a time to party and celebrate the life they had been given, but I disagreed and said birthdays were insignificant, as with each birthday you are celebrating a decrease in year of your life, what's the sense in that?!

Also they said if you don't celebrate birthdays, why do you celebrate Eid-milad-ul nabi? Generally speaking birthdays involve birthday cakes, free-mixing, music, dancing= haraam, whereas eid-milad-ul nabi is a time to remember our blessed Rasullallah sallallahu alaihe wasalam and send blessings on him and his family.

Whereas my non-muslim friends listened to my views and accepted my point of view, no questions asked after that. Well I was to the point so I probably scared them!

I'll stop waffling now..lol. Basically you can avoid festivals of the west, and you should, just make sure you can justify your opinion.

The younger generation..that's another issue. Children are innocent and nah-samej, don't know what I'd do, how would you explain to them that they can't celebrate these meaningless events like the other kids :confused:

[Zahra]

Here's a link that you may find useful inshallah:

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2246

[Noor ul Islam]

Here's a link that you may find useful inshallah:

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2246

Sister,MashaAllah Iam very happy with your conviction. I am glad to read that peole put their religion ahead and above the culture around them and donnot adopt the culture of other people at the cost of their religion
In Pakistan however the comlexed people celebrate all these occassions more religiousely than the west. Most of my in-laws get angry if I donnot give gifts to their children on birthdays. When they clearly know that I donnot accept any gifts on such occassions. Young boys and the teenagers celebrate the Halloweens and VAlentines day in their school. 2-3 years back when Eid and Valentines day wre almost together you would be amazed then the shops had more banners of Happy Valentines Day than Happy Eid. So you can judge what is going on. The people who object are labelled fundamentalists by their own families in a plce like Pakistan. Surely Qiyyamat is approching. May God give us courage like yours.Wassalam

[Mossy]

Birthday cakes are impermissable? :confused:

[niqaabii]

i dnt celebrate ma bdays either.
i cnt b bothered wasting my precious time on bday partys and other so called celebrations except for EID..hehe

[Omar HH]

Well my Muslim friend did tell me a good point yesterday. He doesn't give his kids birthday presents because they haven't achieved anything. They don't chose when they are born, where they are born, their race, their father, their wealth, etc. He celebrates when they do something good.

Anyways this year I am going to celebrate Mawlid al-Nabi insha Allah. At first I was a little hesitant but al-Hamdulilah this year I will celebrate it insha Allah.

[Goldi]

So let me get this straight for my own knowledge.

Eids are legitimate 'islamic' celebrations. So you can celebrate these.

now. is it 'impermissible' to celebrate anything else that is NOT one of the above? I seriously don't know.

i would like an answer from one of our scholars or one of the more learned members with references. no ask-imam please.

[Omar HH]

So let me get this straight for my own knowledge.

Eids are legitimate 'islamic' celebrations. So you can celebrate these.

now. is it 'impermissible' to celebrate anything else that is NOT one of the above? I seriously don't know.

i would like an answer from one of our scholars or one of the more learned members with references. no ask-imam please.

There are many good non-Muslim holidays, Thanksgiving, Mothers and Fathers Days, Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday, etc.

But anyways, the ruling in my school is:

Actions can also become makruh if their base ruling is that they are mubah or mandub, but a
majority of uneducated Muslims currently believe that these actions are actually wajib. For
example if people start believing that celebrating the Prophet's birthday (or another person's
birthday) is wajib (and not mandub or mubah as it actually is), then it becomes makruh to
celebrate such

[niqaabii]

what is Mawlid al-Nabi
is dat the the prophets pbuh's bday..or something like that

[alibaba]

Anyways this year I am going to celebrate Mawlid al-Nabi insha Allah. At first I was a little hesitant but al-Hamdulilah this year I will celebrate it insha Allah.

if you are against celebrating b-days then why do u make exceptions to celebrating the b-day of the prophet.....

the prophet never celebrated his b-day and neither did the sahaba...
therefore....in conclusion w/o saying anyone is wahabi or what have you....it can be concluded from common sense that celebrating the prophets b-day is a bidah

[Omar HH]

This is Imam Ibn Taymiyya's opinion about Mawlid from: "the Collected Fatwas," ("Majma' Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya,") Vol. 23, p. 163: "fa-t'adheem al-Mawlid wat-tikhaadhuhu mawsiman qad yaf'alahu ba'ad an-naasi wa yakunu lahu feehi ajra `adheem lihusni qasdihi t'adheemihi li-Rasulillahi, salla-Allahu `alayhi wa sallam"

"To celebrate and to honor the birth of the Prophet (s) and to take it as an honored season, as some of the people are doing, is good and in it there is a great reward, because of their good intentions in honoring the Prophet (s)."

http://www.mawlid.net/mawlid_salafis.htm

[alibaba]

"This is Imam Ibn Taymiyya's opinion "

exactly....that is the imams "opinion" does not mean it is correct... on the contrary ........if truly the milad was a way of honoring and showing love for the prophet then the sahaba would have been the first ones to do it....but they didn't , and this clearly falsifies the opinion of this Imam....

if we truly want to honor the prophet then it would be to follow his teachings....not to celebrate his b-day....

plus these milads are saturated w/ weird bid'ahs about people saying stuff like
"hazoor ki sawari a rahi hai...or saab kharai ho jain" and other sinful actions
even when there is no evidence that the prophet actually comes to celebrate his b-day ... astakhfirullah

[Goldi]

You two. Please discuss the validity of mawlid in another thread. any more and im just going to move/delete the posts.

[Noor ul Islam]

what is Mawlid al-Nabi
is dat the the prophets pbuh's bday..or something like that

Yes it is the Prophets birthday

[Batif]

what is Mawlid al-Nabi
is dat the the prophets pbuh's bday..or something like that


This is a Bidah, invented by some. Today Barailwis mostly follow to celebrate the Holy Birth Day of the Prophet (PBUH).

It is one of many many many other Bidahs like "Gehyarween Shareef" obsereved with relegious enthusiasm, whithout paying a heed to what is "authentic" and what is "NOT".

Ok, what is wrong afterall in celebrating Mawlid Al-Nabi,

People originally wanted to pay highest regards (Darood) to the Prophet, OK,

People originally wanted to revive their relegious convictions from it, OK,

But what happened later down the time line:

1- As there are no Strict Ahadith, or Authentic Precedence by "SAHABA" (RA),
people "added" lot many other wierd practices in it.


2- People raised the holy Rank of the Prophet (PBUH) to level of Shirk.


3- Instead of paying attention to the Golden and Holy teachings of the Prophet (PBUH), people paid more attention on celebrating the Mawlid An-Nabi, and next day forgetting everything.

4- In the Congragations of this festival roads are blocked, people (Ummatees, "Believers of the Prophet PBUH) are disturbed, as some got to catch a flight, some got to get to hospital, office or to meet any urgency ........ This way their conviction and belief in the Prophet is diluted. Blocking the passage and roads are "Strictly" against the Golden Teachnings of our Prophet (PBUH).

Prophet (PBUH) in his Holy Life would never ever have tolerated the smallest pain from himself (PBUH) to anyone, and what we do is that in the Name of Prophet (PBUH) we block the roads, keep people from meeting their urgencies etc. etc. etc.

If you believe that Prophet (PBUH) listens and watches us (Hazir Nazir) , then do you think that He (PBUH) would accept this torment to his Ummat and that too in the name of Him (PBUH) ???????

Above all, we never pay attention to spread the Golden Teachings of Prophet (PBUH), the Main Focus is the "Celebration Only"

That is the "Fruit" from Celebrating Mawlid An-Nabi, like following every other Bidah. Deviating from the main focus of Deen.

May Allah Guide us to the right Path and bless us with the correct understanding, Aamin.

Batif

[niqaabii]

salam
ohh..now i kno wot it means..jazakallah 4 da info
yh ..ive been hearing that these things go on in pak..celebrating the prophets bday...dunno y they do it !!