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Omar HH
16-07-2004, 05:23 AM
I have a question. Before Malik's madhab how did people do their fiqh? How did people do their wudu and salah?

After Shafii's madhab was created and before Abu Hanifa's was it required for the mass populace to do taqlid on either the Maliki or Shafii madhab? So was everybody either a Maliki or a Shafii?

What about right after Imam Malik's madhab and before Imam Shafii's? Was it required to do taqlid on Malik only? Because that was the only madhab.

Jazakallah wa Khayrun

Mossy
16-07-2004, 09:29 AM
If you look at the timings for the evolution of the madhab structure, you can see that it's just about at the end of the first three generations of muslims..

The implementation of Islam was therefore not all that disparate, as you still had the students of the sahaba to refer to and their students - local custom also correlated positively to the implementation of Islam at the time of the Prophet (pbuh). What is the foundation of amal al madina? Amal al madina was merely a formalisation of the way people would have practised their Islam at that time..

The madhab structure bought together the various implementations of Islam that were slowly diverging as people had their own views and the number of scholars was at a vast multiplicity - it essentially offered a coherent, peer reviewed structure to work within.

Taqleed was not deemed necessary at the time as people on the whole had both an immediate reference point (ie the last generation) and enhanced knowledge of items such as the meaning of the Qu'ran (as it was their tongue) and local tradition/history for exegesis of this.

There were a number of schools of thought that sprung up in response to these - I would say that the reason some died out and some remained was partially due to their relative coherence, but also political factors.

Taqleed was not really deemed necessary until the "gates of ijtihad were closed" (cf another discussion) as at this point it was agreed that, essentially, independent ijtihad on the furu was no longer required as definitive derivations had been agreed upon within the madhab structure, which was by then commonly accepted.

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
20-07-2004, 11:46 AM
as salamu alaykum

http://209.41.170.97:8080/ramgen/%7Ezmedia/audio/Imam%20Zaid%20Shakir%20-%20Introduction%20to%20Following%20A%20Madhab.rm

Shaykhs-Pir Sahib
20-07-2004, 11:48 AM
as salamu alaykum

sorry - that was 'introduction to following a madhhab' by Imam Zaid Shakir (GenN - you can lol here), taken from Zaytuna webpage

IlyasLahoz
20-07-2004, 05:11 PM
:bism:
:salam:
A minor point Akhi, Imam Abu Hanifa's (ra) school was the first not the third of the four cannonical schools to be established.