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20-03-2005, 01:18 PM
I never understood why Hindus dont consume beef or veal calf. Although I hear that "modern" Hindus don't care anymore.
My Hindu roommate and I (edit), sometimes share foods that we cook or buy. And I had made veal cutlet and biryani with beef the other night. My roommate enjoyed eating both, not realizing that she is eating calf/beef. She didn't ask, since she probably thought it was baby lamb or goat ;)
I thought it was nice for her to try something fun and interesting. I used to eat pork, but not anymore...but I can tell from looking at the meat.
Is it okay to continue feeding my Hindu friend what I think she should be eating in the first place? She seemed to enjoy the tender veal and the biryani :)
20-03-2005, 01:23 PM
Naah sister I don't think you should do that because if someone did that to me [fed me pork] I would flip!
Hindus don't eat beef because they think the cow is some sort of God.
Some modern Hindu's don't give two hoots about all that and eat whatever but I think you should check with your room mate first.....
20-03-2005, 04:31 PM
20-03-2005, 05:16 PM
You can't force your morals/perceptions onto other people through subterfuge. If you want an easy moral gauge, just flip the situation to an analogous one with you as the person being fed that which you may not desire as faqir stated. It's not very nice and I'm sure you'd take offence. Feed her the biryani by all means, but respect her decisions, even if you need to make assumptions for them.
21-03-2005, 05:04 AM
Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (Ra) has basically a whole book on this - how some Muslims are even influenced by Hindus and refuse to slaughter and eat the cow (I know its a slightly different topic then the original but stil...). The books called "Sunnate Ibrahim". I think the reason is on par with what Sidi Faqir said.
Khair - I prefer chicken, so give your friend chicken. They can eat chicken right?
21-03-2005, 05:12 AM
Sis Monique, I've unintentionally done the same. During my childhood, I had a hindu friend, who once came over my house and I fed her beef, thinking it was goat. She wasn't able to tell the difference either. She even enjoyed it. The next day, when my mom told me it was beef I thought it would be a bad idea to tell my friend I fed her beef. :$
I don't think it would be a good idea to continue feeding her beef without her knowledge. Even though you have good intentions, she would feel deceived if she were to find out.
21-03-2005, 05:19 AM
My old neighbour had this 5-yr old daughter. She sometimes used to come over to our place, and we would feed her beef, etc. Her mother/father used to beef and everything, but her grandmother didn't. One day, her grandmother found out about us feeding her beef. She didn't touch her for like a day and I think she made her take a shower also. :cheesygri
21-03-2005, 06:49 AM
actuallt the fact is the hindus think tat "cow" is their god as they provide us with milk, how our mothers do when we r small so we call her mother,
the same way they call coe mother and feed them and some hindus like"jains" and brahmans they take their urine and mix it with food and also they sprinkle it in house for barkah(as they say),
and tats y theyu dont eat beef, as they say its our mother meat so they dont eat it,
but new modern generation guyz they dont bealieve in all such superstitious and bealieves so they eat but not all,
21-03-2005, 09:15 AM
dear friends, I am afraid that toying with a person's deeply held convictions is neither 'interesting' nor 'fun;' and neither is it something that we should have a laugh about. The best test of whether an action is acceptable or not is inversion - would you like it to be done to you and yours? If your Hindu friend spiked your juice with vodka, I am sure that you would not describe their actions with either of these two adjectives. You would no doubt be horrified, shocked and - most importantly - it would do long-term damage to your perception of that person's values, morals and religion. The French and Germans think that they are doing what is best for muslim girls by forcing them to remove their head-scarves. Just as there is no compulsion in religion, neither is there any subterfuge. Remember that our master, Sayyidina Muhammad (s) said that, 'a believer cannot be characterised by two traits: lying and deceit.'
My humble advice is that you make tauba to Allah and strive to do what is best for your friend - guide her to the straight path through respect and love. Do not be like the people of the book whom Allah described in the Quran as being quite sanguine about abusing the Beduoins because, 'we have no responsiblity towards the unlettered (sura baqara).' Non-muslims have rights over us, too - that we treat them with justice and fairness. Their religious beliefs are also protected by the shariah.
May Allah guide us all to excellence of character, and please forgive me if I have offended any of you at all.
PS: Hindu's originally did not consume Beef because they felt that cow's were manifestations of the divine. Some do not eat any meat / dairy products because of the prinicple of ahisma (absolute non-violence). Other's abstain from it out of respect for the traditions of their elders, and yet others do so for health reasons, as part of the Ayurvedic medical regime. One way or another, it is a moot point. Many muslims do not consume beef because it is a heavy meal that sits on the stomach, takes a long time to digest and makes one slow and lazy. As my teacher once told me, 'if you want to wake up for tahajjud, try being vegetarian...'
24-07-2005, 05:05 PM
i think the brahmin hindus dont eat beef, but the others do--at least that is what i assumed?
i had a long debate with my ex-roommate, who is a hindu girl. she eats chicken, pork, seafood, everything except beef. i was having veal chops yesterday, and she was describing to me the condition of veal calves in crates and all that. poor calves :) my point was that if you can eat chicken, why not veal? i just dont get it...if you are going to kill/eat the animal, why make a distinction between chickens and calves?? they both feel pain, not that i really care, honestly, so long as the meat is halal and tasty ;)
only problem i see is that by feeding that person beef, you betray a trust, and if that person found out you broke that trust, it would reflect poorly on you as a muslim. it's in the past now, just inform that person in the future, she'll note you're considerate of her beliefs.
25-07-2005, 03:46 AM
That's disgraceful that you would toy with someone's beliefs like that. How would you like it if I fed you something with pork and you didn't notice and I didn't tell you??
Where's the adab!!
Something like this should not even be mentioned to us as it is a sin. You have betrayed the person knowingly.
I know I would flip if something like this happened to me. I would feel like killing the person and would definitely think the person is an evil person.
Stuff like this, if the victims learn of it, completely destroys the reputation of Muslims.
Make tawba insha'Allah and may Allah forgive you. Aameen.
That is really a very bad thing you and anyone else might have done na'audhobillah.
27-07-2005, 11:59 AM
I agree that was sis Monique did was a little too playful and not fair. But I still question the idea of not eating veal for ethical reasons, when chickens, lamb and other animals are also treated as badly. To me, animals raised for food are all alike--they are here for only one reason--to end up on our dining tables. So what is wrong with eating veal? That was my argument with my Hindu roommate.
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