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Omar HH
30-03-2005, 09:21 AM
RE: Shaykh Hisham Kabbani, Shaykh Nazim, and the Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine and Beliefs…
Answered by Shaykh Gibril Haddad

Do Hanafi and other Sunni scholars accept the writings and teachings of Shaykh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani of the Islamic Supreme Council of North America (such as his Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine and Beliefs according to Ahl as-Sunna, for example) as reliable. I have heard some speak out against him and his Shaykh (Muhammad Nazim Adil), but I have also heard others praise him. I am genuinely confused.

Regarding Mawlana al-Shaykh Nazim I am unworthy to speak of him. As for Shaykh Hisham then may Allah save him and inspire him the right course. As for the Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine it may in sha' Allah continue to remain a useful and reliable reference in English against certain heresies that are troubling the Umma, except for a couple of pages in which errors crept in. Namely, the claim (7:114) that women passed the hand of the Prophet (upon him peace) over their bodies! and that this is in Bukhari! No it is not, nor in any other book of hadith in the history of Islam.

Also, the statement from Shaykh Salah Nassar (7:188) that "there is disagreement" whether handshake with women took place in bay`a or not, which is false--it is unanimously established that there was never a direct handshake; third, Shaykh Salah's claim that a certain hadith is in Bukhari: also incorrect. May Allah accept the rest and make it beneficial.

Hajj Gibril
--
GF Haddad

http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00002766.aspx

So is Dr. Haddad saying Shaykh Hisham is wrong? huh, I thought that he was a murid of the Naqshbandis.

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Omar HH
30-03-2005, 10:06 AM
Also whats up with this site?

http://www.amislam.com/nazim.htm

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Ansari
30-03-2005, 10:21 AM
A very strange site indeed:

Message from Shaykh Abu Omar Palazzi
to the mufti Ebrahim Desai and to the sect of Deoband
http://www.amislam.com/desai.htm

Yasin786
30-03-2005, 11:24 AM
Salaam Aleykum,

Shaykh Gibril is merely stating that he is unsure. He is actually very close with Shaykh Hisham's brother Adnan and has learned much from him, so i doubt that he is saying Shaykh Hisham is wrong. And if he is stating he is wrong, then it is his opinion, sometimes what Shaykh Hisham says does not mean The Naqshbandi Haqqani Tariqat's view, Shaykh Hisham is a representitive only, Mawlana Shaykh Nazim is the one whom is to be looked at. As for the people causing fitnah saying Mawlana is going against Islam, one should go and see for himself. Theres no description to the way the sunnah is performed by this man, nor is there way to understand it right away. He was the first one performing salat and the last one finishing, he stood for prayer even though he was in pain and he is 80 some odd years old, he was up before anyone for tahajuud and made the Adhan and young people like myself were shamed, how can I be so young yet so unable to stand like him in Salat, and wake up like him for Salat. Masha'Allah it is truly something amazing, just watching the man make Salat makes you a better Muslim, you start wondering what is wrong with yourself. It's better to see for yourself, listening to gossip and people who are out to attack others is probably not the best way. Besides, how can I be against him when he was the man that made me look at myself, and truly ask Allah to make me a better Muslim, from his Living example of the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed (s.a.w). I think its important to remember not to judge, see for yourself if you wish, but dont judge a mans character and what kind of Muslim he is simply by reading blurbs of things that are mis interpreted and formed in a way to make the person feel bad. If you have questions you can message me i can try and make light of some of it.

Walaikum Salaam.

ahsanirfan
30-03-2005, 01:42 PM
A very strange site indeed:

Message from Shaykh Abu Omar Palazzi
to the mufti Ebrahim Desai and to the sect of Deoband
http://www.amislam.com/desai.htm

Shaykh Palazzi.. not again! LOL. That guy is funny. To him all are kaafirs except himself.

Omar HH
30-03-2005, 05:45 PM
Did Shaykh Hisham really say "Mohammad :saw: is al-Rahman"?

talib al-habib
30-03-2005, 06:31 PM
salams

that this topic is still being brought up shows just how far and how fast rumours spread. Reminds me of a story:

a woman came to a saint one day, saying that she had gossiped about someone and wished to repent. She asked how she could make up for her action. The saint said: 'go to the market and buy a (dead) chicken. As you walk home, pluck the feathers and drop them by the roadside. Then come and see me tomorrow.' She did as she was told, wathcing as some feathers fluttered to the road, others into the fields, and some were blown by the wind. When she returned the next morning to find out what to do next, the saint said, 'now go and pick up all the feathers you dropped yesterday.' 'That's impossible!' cried the woman, 'They've scattered and I would never be able to find all of them again.' 'Exactly,' said the saint.
The stories about Sh Nazim have been refuted by... Shaykh Gibril himself. Prof Palazzi is a Habashi well-known for his dislike of the Naqshbandi order. Sh Hisham was a good friend and virtual mentor to Sh Gibril when the latter was in America. He (Sh Gibril) also did a great deal (if not most of) of the research for the Encyclopaedia. Having said that, the reservation that he mentions in the post refers to a subject that was added after he proof-checked it. If Sh Gibril had a concern about Shaykh Hisham, believe me he wold have said so in plain terms.

I had a brother (adv student of knowledge) who went to Sh Hisham's gathering with the intention of interrogating/quizzing him about some points of fiqh. When he returned, he sheepishly admitted that he didn't ask him anything (highly out of character for this brother; he loves fiqh-fights!). When asked why, he replied, 'I've never seen anyone with as much adab as Sh Hisham, I felt bad to embarrass him with my questions!'

Allah the All-Wise says, 'beware of suspicion; verily, much suspicion is a sin.'

was salam

Omar HH
30-03-2005, 06:37 PM
Allah the All-Wise says, 'beware of suspicion; verily, much suspicion is a sin.'

I agree, I am just trying to find the refutation for this.

Can you give me the refutation Shaykh Gibril wrote?

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Yasin786
31-03-2005, 07:19 AM
Salaam Aleykum

Nooo way Shaykh Hisham would never say something like that. I bet Shaykh Hisham said that Prophet (s.a.w) was Gracious and someone said oh look Shaykh Hisham is saying he is Ar-Raheem Astagfurullah. Remember you are talking to someone who knows him personally and it would be sad to believe someone else because of rumors, Insha'Allah Khair.

I will try to find the refutation by Shaykh Gibril Haddad. I have read it before but i cant seem to find it now.

Walaikum Salaam

talib al-habib
31-03-2005, 05:09 PM
salams

last time I saw, the refutation was at www.sunnah.org It wasn't a ref of the entire article, because I think he couldn't be bothered. Some of the stuff is so stupid that any rational person would see through it.

was salam...

talib al-habib
01-04-2005, 03:54 PM
salams

Some new and further info on the opinion of GFH on Sh Hisham and Sh Nazim. From his 'refutation of the esoteric deviations in islam,' written about 3months ago. The title of the subsection is:

The affliction of envy for Allah's Friends

It is the same with the Prophet’s friends in every century: they must, if they are true inheritors, face the envy and spite of thirteen to the dozen would-be kinglets they oust from the imaginary leadership they never cease dreaming of. In the United States Shaykh Hisham Kabbani faced and still faces such a cabal day in and day out. He is unfailingly exonerated and justified by the grace of Allah Who is without doubt pleased with him, as anyone that has eyes can see. The sooner American seekers of guidance recognize his Karamah and spiritual standing, the higher their rank will rise here and hereafter insha Allah. Similarly is Allah well-pleased with the Blessing of the Age, Shaykh Hisham’s teacher, Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani, whom we might describe as a greater light of the two Easts and the two Wests than the sun in our sky, were it not that we are ordered to address people according to their understanding; and the sum of their understanding is that he is an ordinary person.

hope that then clears that up.
was salam, talib

muslim786
01-04-2005, 04:00 PM
salams

Some new and further info on the opinion of GFH on Sh Hisham and Sh Nazim. From his 'refutation of the esoteric deviations in islam,' written about 3months ago. The title of the subsection is:

The affliction of envy for Allah's Friends

It is the same with the Prophet’s friends in every century: they must, if they are true inheritors, face the envy and spite of thirteen to the dozen would-be kinglets they oust from the imaginary leadership they never cease dreaming of. In the United States Shaykh Hisham Kabbani faced and still faces such a cabal day in and day out. He is unfailingly exonerated and justified by the grace of Allah Who is without doubt pleased with him, as anyone that has eyes can see. The sooner American seekers of guidance recognize his Karamah and spiritual standing, the higher their rank will rise here and hereafter insha Allah. Similarly is Allah well-pleased with the Blessing of the Age, Shaykh Hisham’s teacher, Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani, whom we might describe as a greater light of the two Easts and the two Wests than the sun in our sky, were it not that we are ordered to address people according to their understanding; and the sum of their understanding is that he is an ordinary person.

hope that then clears that up.
was salam, talib

Yeah I read that article when it was first written couple of months back, and yeah it clears up a lot of misconceptions that people have with these two noble shaikhs. You read it at http://www.livingislam.org/o/murb_e.html it was initially posted as a email on the bewley updates mailing list.