Studying in South Africa

[Saleel]

:salam:

A bit busy at the moment, but :insh: wanted to ask if anyone here has studied in a madrassah/darul uloom in South Africa? Or if you know someone who has? I'm planning on going over there early next year for a short course, and so far two madrassahs have written back saying that everything is fine on their part. Madrassah Taaleemudeen in Durban have shown a very positive response :alhamd:.

Any comments by people who have already studied in SA?

:jazak:

:salam:

[Omar_Farouk]

:salam: bro Saleel, While i was living in Africa many of my friends were going 2 darul ulooms in South Africa, the most popular ones were Azaadville and Zakariyya, in Azaadville theres around 500 hundred students, both these darul ulooms have good reputations :alhamd: Contact them if your interested.

PS: How long you planning on staying for, if you dont mind me asking.

[Saleel]

:salam:

:jazak: for your reply bro Omar.

Azaadville also replied to me and were positive about it. Not sure why, but my heart just leans towards Madrassah Taaleemudeen in Durban though. Hmm.

I'm only going for a short while... I still have to finish my degree, but I'm getting 5 weeks off early next year to go and do anything I want educational (most people usually learn a language or something). And then I also get another elective period in the 5th year of my degree which lasts 8 weeks. I'll see how next year goes, and if it's positive, then I may go again in the 8 week period :insh:.

5 weeks isn't a lot of time, but supposedly I should be able to make a lot of progress in the field I want to study during that time.

Where did you study in South Africa Omar?

:salam:

[Omar_Farouk]

:salam:

Where did you study in South Africa Omar?

:salam:

Sorry I never made it clear, my mates studied in South Africa not me unfortunately, i regret not doing so, but Allah works in mysterious ways so wel see what happens :insh: if your going to be studying in Durban try to go to the Aquarium at Durban beach, (if you have time) its really good :mash: the beach itself is really good aswell :thumbsup:

May Allah make it easy for you and beneficial.

[pink_ninja]

my bro went azadville. it's good but he came came back

[Saleel]

my bro went azadville. it's good but he came came back
Any reason why he came back?

[ibnu Rashid]

Azaadville is very very good, masha'Allah. My friends that studied there loved it there. The Shaykh-ul-Hadith, Shaykh Fazlur Rahman i believe his name is, is something else. I've heard nothing but praises about him. To get suhbah from someone like him would be extremely beneficial.

[A D I D A S]

:salam:

A bit busy at the moment, but :insh: wanted to ask if anyone here has studied in a madrassah/darul uloom in South Africa? Or if you know someone who has? I'm planning on going over there early next year for a short course, and so far two madrassahs have written back saying that everything is fine on their part. Madrassah Taaleemudeen in Durban have shown a very positive response :alhamd:.

Any comments by people who have already studied in SA?

:jazak:

:salam:
Ok Two of my class mates (In maktab) who are like err 21-22 are studying in Africa and their father says its cool out there. I can get you some info if you want.

[A D I D A S]

Sorry I never made it clear, my mates studied in South Africa not me unfortunately, i regret not doing so, but Allah works in mysterious ways so wel see what happens :insh: if your going to be studying in Durban try to go to the Aquarium at Durban beach, (if you have time) its really good :mash: the beach itself is really good aswell :thumbsup:

May Allah make it easy for you and beneficial.
dONT TAKE IT FROM HIM.
Going to study or chillout?
Joke

[ia132]

Brother Saleel,

May I ask why you are going to SA instead of some place in the UK?
Is there better knowledge there?

[pink_ninja]

i actually don't know y he came back. i was only 9 years old or some at so i weren't bothered abaht stuff like that but i know it wasn't coz of the ustaads or the education. it's a really good madressah even though my bro came back.

[Saleel]

:salam:

Brother Saleel,

May I ask why you are going to SA instead of some place in the UK?
Is there better knowledge there?
Brother ia32, since I only have a very short period to study my area of choice (between 5 to 7 weeks), I would like as much exposure as possible. I tried to get in contact with a couple of Darul Ulooms in the UK, and it seemed quite far-fetched to expect to get a dedicated teacher for myself for the 5weeks. I'm not going to South Africa for a holiday, but rather to get as much teaching as possible. And of course, many of our past Ulema have travelled for the sake of knowledge, so :insh: it's a nice way to follow that concept.

And also, some of my favourite scholars come from South Africa :) I would just feel blessed to be in an area of such barakah. Make dua for me :insh:.

I do not believe that the UK Darul Ulooms are inferior to other Darul Ulooms around the world. :mash: we have the likes of Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari in the UK, as well as other top Ulema. My choice to go to SA is just based on the points I made above.


i actually don't know y he came back. i was only 9 years old or some at so i weren't bothered abaht stuff like that but i know it wasn't coz of the ustaads or the education. it's a really good madressah even though my bro came back.
Sister pink_ninja, okay :jazak: for that - I was just worried it might have been something to do with the taleem there. May Allah swt increase you and your brother in knowledge. Ameen.

:jazak:

:salam:

[A D I D A S]

I made a post about our ulama travelling for knowledge too but then deleted it. Yep even hadhrat Musa a.s travelled to seek knowledge and it has been the way of our salaf (not salafis) too.

[Raeesa]

hmmm out of interest i have heard that the teaching in SA is more english based than urdu based for those that know about it or have been is that the case?

[ia132]

Brother Saleel,

May Allah give you success in all your endeavors. Please let me know how your experience was after you come back inshaAllah. I am very interested in SA as well as the UK for studies.

[Live for Islam]

Assalamu Alaikum,


hmmm out of interest i have heard that the teaching in SA is more english based than urdu based for those that know about it or have been is that the case?

Well South Africans speak *a lot* of English, more that any other language..say Urdu..Guji, like even the older generation they'll converse in English all the time. But I don't know whether it relates to the Madrassahs there as well.
But if I was studying, I'd rather study Arabic to Urdu kitabs, with minimum English..so that not only will my ilm increase (Insha-Allah) but also my knowledge of the chosen languages.

But yea, South Africa's a great place to study.

Wassalam.

[amatullah]

as salaamu alaikum warahmatullah

R u talking about the darul uloom in Isipingo, Durban? That's the one my friends bro goes 2 , if u want i can find out about it 4 u 4rm them...wot is it exactly that u wanna know ?It's quite a good madrassa from wot i heard and Durban is a gr8 city Alhumdulillah

was salaam

[amatullah]

about the language , yeah mostly english is spoken here but according 2 my knowledge kitaabs in english , arabic and urdu r studied.insha Allah will find out about that

[Saleel]

:salam:

as salaamu alaikum warahmatullah

R u talking about the darul uloom in Isipingo, Durban? That's the one my friends bro goes 2 , if u want i can find out about it 4 u 4rm them...wot is it exactly that u wanna know ?It's quite a good madrassa from wot i heard and Durban is a gr8 city Alhumdulillah

was salaam
Yes, Madrassah Taaleemudeen in Durban, Isipingo Beach is what I'm looking at at the moment. I'm mainly interested in how the teaching is conducted there with regards to tilawaat of the Quran - qiraaat, hifz, tajweed, etc. How much teacher contact do you have compared to private study, and what is the student to teacher ratio?

Any information you can gather would be very gratefully received :insh:.

:jazak:

:salam:

[amatullah]

if u don't mind me asking , R u still studying ur Hifz or have u completed and just doing revision? i know my friends bro has completed his Hifz and he does revision by someone there...i'm not sure if the focus is on teaching Hifz so much as the aalim course - will try and get sum info asap insha Allah

was salaam

[Saleel]

:salam:

if u don't mind me asking , R u still studying ur Hifz or have u completed and just doing revision? i know my friends bro has completed his Hifz and he does revision by someone there...i'm not sure if the focus is on teaching Hifz so much as the aalim course - will try and get sum info asap insha Allah

was salaam
:subh: no, my intention to go there is primarily to get an intensive done on tajweed and the art of Qiraat, and then after that to perhaps experience the first year of the Alim course for a few weeks, with a hope to possibly enrol in it in the future :insh:. But for the 5-7weeks that I am going for, I would like to learn under a Qari and improve (perfect?) my tajweed :insh:. I realise this can be done in the UK also, but my circumstances has made this almost impossible. To organise a course here, with good teacher contact, for the exact period required is tough.

:salam:

[pink_ninja]

salaams if you wanna be a qari y don't you go syria to pray. the qari's of syria pray wicked.

[Saleel]

:salam:

salaams if you wanna be a qari y don't you go syria to pray. the qari's of syria pray wicked.
Yes, I realise that :mash:. I've considered Syria, Egypt, etc. but for some reason, I've had an inclination to go to a South Africa DU for as long as I can remember. The period I am going for on this occasion is very short, but with the hope that :insh: sometime in the future I can attend there full-time. Allahu Alam.

:salam:

[amatullah]

i think insha Allah u would really benefit if u emailed Mufti Abdul Kader Hoosen . He is a very prominent Mufti and practically a household name is south africa alhumdulillah since he is the in-house Mufti for the international, digital radio station Channel Islam (www.channelislam.com...)

There is 1 program (Q and A) where he answers queries relating 2 Islam and he would most probably be able 2 help u insha Allah , since he taught at the Newcastle Darul Uloom for about 20 yrs and has much knowledge about darul uloom structures and contact wilth the ulema of south africa .Newcastle is about 3 hours from durban.Here's Mufti AK's profile from the CII website:

Born in Heidelberg in 1957, completed Hifz ul Quran in 1970, persued studies in Parkistan and graduated in 1980. Started teaching at Darul Uloom Newcastle in the begining of 1981. Completed M.A. in Islamic Studies at RAU University in 1990. The portfolios held at Darul Uloom Newcastle were Vice Principal and Mufti. Invited by Prince Bandar to a conference on Islamic Education in Saudi Arabia and invited by the Saudi Government in 2001 for Hajj. Currently the Amirus Shura and Mufti at Cii.

His email is - mufti@channelislam.com
be sure u mention that ur emailing from overseas so he should email u a response instead of answering it on his program on air

was salaam

[A D I D A S]

Assalamu Alaikum,



Well South Africans speak *a lot* of English, more that any other language..say Urdu..Guji, like even the older generation they'll converse in English all the time. But I don't know whether it relates to the Madrassahs there as well.
But if I was studying, I'd rather study Arabic to Urdu kitabs, with minimum English..so that not only will my ilm increase (Insha-Allah) but also my knowledge of the chosen languages.

But yea, South Africa's a great place to study.

Wassalam.
Same ere.

[A D I D A S]

Jordan is a cool place to study ARABIC.

[amatullah]

as salaamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatu

i asked my 4riend about the maddrassa in Isipingo, Durban n she said:

-The maddrassa has started Qari lessons , not a fully developed course yet ,and they teach proper Tajweed etc and there is a very good Qari teaching @ the darul uloom

-It's highly advisable 2 complete Hifz and do intense revision (@ least a yr according 2 my friend's bro--> his dad arranged 4 him 2 be tested by his Ustaad everyday) before beginning the aalim course as it will be the students duty to keep up to and revise his Qur'aan in his spare time as the uloom doesn't cater specifically for Hafizs to be tested by their Ustaad

-The aalim course is VERY intensive

-After completing intense Arabic and Urdu lessons in the 1st year , almost all of the kitaabs are in Arabic and Urdu

I think that's about all she said

may Allah help and assist u in ur decision, ameen

was salaam

[Mariah]

:salam:

My brothers in S.A (Azadville) right now, hes gone to do revision of his hifz.
Coz hes only 13 (still in full time ed) hes just gone for the summer holiday period (about two months).
As far as i know, from what iv heard my dad saying its a grat darul uloom, and the Moulanas there are :mash: really good aswell.
The Moulana thats teaching my brother is some Moulana Iqbal whos known for his great teaching. Some of them have been teaching there for many years like one that teaches Bukhari shareef and so on has been there for over twenty years.
Majority of them studied in India, so i gues maybe how about that as an option? :rolleyes:

Hes aparently also doing some qiraat thingy there too... Although id prefer Egypt for that and Syria for Arabic (iv been drooling over thier arabic courses since some time, so wish i could go! :insh: one day..)

Hes coming back soon now so i guess you can hava day to day review of how he did solid revision of his Quraan in two months!

hmm Ispingo Beach that name rings a bell, thats where Al Haadi is written init?

hmm lol @ Omar, yeah my bro did his bit of holidaying on the beaches of Durban before he went to pray tooo..

oh and theres this other place beginning with D, cant think of the name which is supposed to be really good for just tajweed and stuff, its a small darul uloom but they pay alot of attention to you...

anyways i guess youve made your mind up so i pray its all successful for you :insh: :)

Wassalam

[Saleel]

:salam:

Sr. amatullah, :jazak: for that information. I know Madrassah Taleemuddeen have a dedicated Qiraat hall just for hifz and recitation of the Quran, which is appealing. Though I'm not sure if this is the case in all DU? Though I'm sure wherever I go, Tajweed will be taught properly... it's just the Qiraat which varies throughout the world.

Also have to consider things like cost - SA is very, very cheap, and comparing Jordan - well, that's pretty expensive.

Sr. Mariah. yes, Al-Haadi is written at Madrassah Taleemuddeen, Ispingo Beach.

Would it be possible for you to write up your brother's experiences when he comes back?

Also, would it be possible for you to find out the dedicated DU for Tajweed? I haven't finalised my decision yet, so the help would be very much appreciated.

:jazak:

:salam:

[Mariah]

Sr. Mariah. yes, Al-Haadi is written at Madrassah Taleemuddeen, Ispingo Beach.

Thought so, i like their newsletter, very interesting and islamically informative :mash:


Would it be possible for you to write up your brother's experiences when he comes back?

Sure :insh: :) hes only a thirteen yr old kid so hmm duno if it'll really help...
The last time i spoke to him, he said it was tough and they were pretty strict in the sence that no going ahead until you learnt it correctly and that even what he had done he still had to do revision of it all daily which he also gets tested on.. ill probably speak to him tomorrow :insh: so if you have questions in praticular lemi know, ill ask for you :)



Also, would it be possible for you to find out the dedicated DU for Tajweed? I haven't finalised my decision yet, so the help would be very much appreciated.
As my dads not home at the moment, i dont know where i can find out from, but ill see if my brother or anybod else knows..

Wassalam

[Saleel]

Sure :insh: :) hes only a thirteen yr old kid so hmm duno if it'll really help...
The last time i spoke to him, he said it was tough and they were pretty strict in the sence that no going ahead until you learnt it correctly and that even what he had done he still had to do revision of it all daily which he also gets tested on.. ill probably speak to him tomorrow :insh: so if you have questions in praticular lemi know, ill ask for you :)
:jazak:, well your brother is just doing the hifz course at the moment, right? If you could find out how intense it is in-terms of hours per day, and also how much one-to-one teaching he gets, i.e. him with the teacher I would be grateful :insh:.


As my dads not home at the moment, i dont know where i can find out from, but ill see if my brother or anybod else knows...
Okay :insh:. But that DU does sound very interesting... is it in SA?

:salam:

[Omar_Farouk]

Bro come IDA 4 Aalim course (Islamic dawah academy) in leicester, il get a word in 4 u :p

[Mariah]

:salam:

Just spoke to my brother this is what he said...

wake up about 4:45 am pray for anhour till Fajr thats at around 5:45.
After fajr pray till 6:30 am
Rest/breakfast for 1 & half hrs.
8:00 am till 10:00 am, short break, then till 12:00
Dhuhr Salah, Lunch.
Then till 4:00 pm
Short breaks and Salah at its intervals and Praying till about 9:00 pm

So basically he goes they have to pray for about 10 hrs in a day.

they have thursday evenings and friday for jummah off, he goes back to madressah soon after jummah.

I asked how the teaching was and he said "really good, they make you learn everything very solid, 'pakka' was the word he used i think!

hmm be warned i think its quite easy to pick up thier South African accent coz hes got a pretty strong one! :p

That other DU is in S.A, he said he couldnt remember what it was called but something like Dadya.. i really dont know though...

Hope that was useful,
Wassalam

[Saleel]

:salam:

:jazak: - yep, that was useful. 10 hours a day seems quite a bit :alhamd:. Is your brother doing hifz or has he done it and just reviewing it?

SA accent - I didn't mind it at first, but have been listening to Radio Islam quite a bit recently, and it's a tad annoying! But khair... I guess they find out Indian sub-continent accents annoying too.

:jazak: for the information, I'll try and ask others about the "Dadya" madrassah :insh:.

:salam:

[Mariah]

:salam:

Hes done it, just revising it.

Wassalam

[ummati]

As Salaamu Alaikum

Its great to see such a zeal for the Knowledge of the Holy Qur'aan,May ALLAH bless all of us with it.Ameen.I am also from South Africa (sister of amatullah)Basically all the Darul U'looms are strict and teach tajweed seriously but lets see what info I can give you on some that I know of:

Madrassa Arabia Islamiyyah in Azaadville is quite good Mashallah.One of the more stricter DU's I think.At the end of the 6th year Aalim course the graduates leave for a 1 year jamaat,1 month here in south Africa and the rest in India I think.Its quite a sacrifice Mashallah bt probably a real learning experience too.As one sister mentioned Shekhul Hadith Moulana Fazlur Rahman is also very learned Ulama who teaches there.

Have you considered Madrassah In'aamiyyah in Camperdown?This is the one which Mufti Ibraheem Desai(www.askimam.com)is based at.You can visit their website : (www.alinaam.org.za) These are the courses offered taken from the website:

Courses offered
1. Hifzul-Qurân - full-time students
2. Qirât - Hafs narrated
3. Qirât - Sab'ah and 'Asharah
4. Imâm Khatîb training course
5. 'Âlim Fâdil course.
6. I'dâdiyyah (preparatory course) with Qurân Dor.
7. Muftî course.
8. A Special course for the indigenous new Muslim students who wish to pursue the 'Âlim course.
And others.

Madrassa Zakariyyah is quite popular too.Strict and proper with highly qualified Ulema.I know they get alot of foreigners studying there.

Then theres Darul Uloom Newcastle which is in in Natal.Its good too.

About Madressa Taleemud deen in Ispingo my sister posted some info on it already and you probably know much about it already seeing they wrote to you.

About the African accents-Madressa Zakariyya and Madressa Arabia Ismiyyah in Azaadville are both in the Transvaal area in the interior-and they usually have this twang that is unique to their area-coz of the Afrikaans spoken there.Now Durbanites are another story-their accents are inbetween English,American,Indian,zulu-could add a bit of Afrikaans in their too as well...lol.Unique.So the one often finds the others accent amusing.Just thought i'd clear that up that in the 'rainbow nation' there is no fixed south african accent.Depends where you are staying.

Some contact info that might be of help:

1. Darul Uloom, Madrasah In’aamiyyah, Camperdown (www.alinaam.org.za)

a. Madrasah Ta’leemuddin Isipingo Beach (darulum@eastcoast.co.za)

b. Madrasah Arabia Islamia, Azaadville (mai786@hotmail.com)

c. Madrasah Zakariyyah (duzak@netactive.co.za)

d. Darul Uloom, Newcastle (Tel:27-34-3171612)

e. Madrasah Arabia Islamia, Strand (mt_k@hotmail.com)

Hope my post did help.Maaf if i ran off topic.May ALLAH guide you in your studies.Ameen.

Was Salaam

[Saleel]

:salam:

:jazak: Sr ummati - that was very comprehensive.

One year in Jamat, :subh: such a big sacrifice.

I did contact Madrassah In'aamiyyah, but unfortunately they did not get back to me. I'll contact them again :insh:. I just had a more a thorough look at their site (after you posted the courses they offer - :jazak: for that) and it does look like they have quite an established Qiraat department, with the Qari there being the student of Qari Ayoob Essack :mash:.

Madrassa Zakariyyah - I don't believe I contacted them. :insh: will send them an email after this.

Madrassah Taleemudeen - yes, sister amatullah's reply was very informative.

I think I might need to phone the DU up though, as I'm not quite sure how much email is used there! A few of my emails went un-replied... hmm.

:jazak: for your help :thumbsup:.

:salam:

[ummati]

As Salaamu Alaikum

Jus a correction to make.I think Moulana Fazlur Rahman is part of Darul Uloom Newcastle,not Madrasssa Arabia Islamiyyah in Azaadville.Just thought I'd post it up.Also found out that the Principal for Darul Uloom Zakariyya is Moulana Shabier Ahmed Salooji and the Sheikhul Hadeeth there is Muti Raza-ul-Haq.May ALLAH guide us all to success Ameen.

Was Salaam

[Abu Asma]

as salaamu alaikum,
can anybody provide any info on this subject?

[haqq]

here is one place:

Madrasah Taaleemuddeen (http://www.alhaadi.org.za/About/about.html)

[Abu Asma]

Does anybody have any info on Madrasah Zakariya in South Africa?

[ummati]

As Salaamu Alaikum


Does anybody have any info on Madrasah Zakariya in South Africa?

this might be helpful:
darul uloom contact info (http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=11026)

insha Allah you could also write to the masdrassa at:

Madrasah Zakariyya P.O.Box 523

P.O. Box 10786 De Deur 1884

Madrasah Zakariyya South Africa

Lenasia 1820

South Africa

The website of Madrassa In'aamiyah in Camperdown is


www.alinaam.org.za (http://www.alinaam.org.za/)


This topic was also discussed here (http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472&highlight=studying+south+africa)

Hope that helps insha Allah.

Any specific info you are looking for?

Was Salaam

[Abu Asma]

Wa alaikum salaam,

Thank you very much ummati, That was pretty much the kind of info I was looking for. That link to the previous thread was also very helpful. May Allah give you whats good of this life and the next.

salaam,
Abu Asma

[haqq]

:jazak: for the information, I'll try and ask others about the "Dadya" madrassah :insh:.

:salam:

:salam:

I think the Madrassah you are talking about is De Deur. Here is there address:

Jamiah Masihiyyah Ashrafiyyah
Plot 285 De Deur
South Africa

What ever happend with your plans to study?

:salam:

[abdul518ca]

Darul Uloom Newcastle
I think that's where my Masjid's Imam used to teach before he came here. :p

[Khaadim-ul-Quraan]

:salam:


I'm at the moment studying in Darul Uloom Zakariyya. And i travel alot to Azaadville madressa because its very close by. So if anyone has any questions about the two they can contact me.
I also study at DUZ (this is ZP). Is this Khwaaja Ajmeri?

:salam:

[Khaadim-ul-Quraan]

Yeah this is khaja.
This is Zubair. Howz it? Did you guys read taraweeh tonight?

[Yasmin_S]

Asalamu Alaiykum Everyone. I Currently reside in Toronto, and im VERY VERY intrested in studying in south africa. Ive been trying to look for information.. but unfortunatley cant find much! If anyone has any information about Durul Uloom Zakariyya, or any other madressa for women, can u PLZ PLZ PLZ msg me? Itll be really appreciated.. jazakallah in advance... :)


Salaam.

[Nazeer]

Salmz. I live in S.A. I may be able to help. It depends what u want to know about the Mads. Basically they offer the alim course which is six years. a qari course, hifz clases and mufti course also . Their tel no is +27118591912. (011 8591912, country code is +27).
Shukran
Nazeeer
:)

[Yasmin_S]

Asalamu Aliykum. Omg brother u made me soooo happy. May Allah Bless You. Uve Beeen A Greattttt Help!!!!!! :) . I juss wanted to know stuff like how the madressa is for the girls? is there age restrictions? fees? how to gain admission ? etc etc :$ if u cud help out thatd be greatly appreciated... jazakallah in advance :)

[Nazeer]

salmz. thought u where askin about bys madrasah. wil com back to u about girls mad, give me about a week. insha allah.

[YousefAbusSafar]

As salamu 'alaykum,
Could someone please tell me what I would need to do to apply for the course at Capetown called "Dar ul 'Uloom al 'Arabiyah al Islamiyah"?

Also please tell me what the tuition costs are.

What are the conditions for acceptance etc.

It's the Shafi'i Dar ul 'Uloom.

This is the website:

http://www.duai.co.za/index.htm

If anyone knows the answer to any of these questions please respond.

Allah yajzeekum ul khair.

[Yasmin_S]

salmz. thought u where askin about bys madrasah. wil com back to u about girls mad, give me about a week. insha allah.

Jazak'Alllah zhair brother.... :D !!! i thot it was the same madressa? no? anyways thank you soooooooooooooooooo much!

[Nazeer]

As salamu 'alaykum,
Could someone please tell me what I would need to do to apply for the course at Capetown called "Dar ul 'Uloom al 'Arabiyah al Islamiyah"?

Also please tell me what the tuition costs are.

What are the conditions for acceptance etc.

It's the Shafi'i Dar ul 'Uloom.

This is the website:

http://www.duai.co.za/index.htm

If anyone knows the answer to any of these questions please respond.

Allah yajzeekum ul khair.
Salmz.
will try and get som info, insha allah
shukran

[godilali]

As salamu 'alaykum,
Could someone please tell me what I would need to do to apply for the course at Capetown called "Dar ul 'Uloom al 'Arabiyah al Islamiyah"?

Also please tell me what the tuition costs are.

What are the conditions for acceptance etc.

It's the Shafi'i Dar ul 'Uloom.

This is the website:

http://www.duai.co.za/index.htm

If anyone knows the answer to any of these questions please respond.

Allah yajzeekum ul khair.


you could try emailing Taha Karaan: mt_k@hotmail.com

[YousefAbusSafar]

Allah yajzeekal khair for the help brother.

Allah yashkuruk. I'm looking forward to your answer, wal hamdulillah.

[Alhumdulillah]

You can see a satellite picture of Darul Uloom Zakariyya in Lenasia here:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-26.359579&lon=27.897338&z=18.1&r=345&src=ggl

It is supposed to be a really good madressa. Allah knows best. I think the men's and female's madressas are next to each other.

Here is a photograph from the ground:

http://www.radioislam.co.za/Images/radioislam%20transmitter.jpg

which actually shows a radio transmitter nearby (whoever is responsible, please note that its *NOT* a good idea to put a radio transmitter so close to a boarding school) but you can see the Darul Uloom in the background.

Yasmin, best would be for you to phone the madressa direct and ask them all your questions: Try these two numbers:

011 859 1912 (dailing from abroad, dial 0027 11 859 1912)
or 011 859 1081 (dailing from abroad, dial 0027 11 859 1081)

Don't be shy.

[Yasmin_S]

Lol thank u sooo much brother. You dont understand how happy i am that i found this foruM! may allah reward all of you for helping me out in my time of need.. aameen. inshallah im gona give them a call i juss dont know what to say or what to ask for etc... :S but yeah.. once again jazakallah!

[Nazeer]

Salmz.
Got this much for u:
The madrassah is essentially Shafi`i so we focus on Shafi`i fiqh but do also teach the fiqh of the other 3 madhahib in certain issues. The monthly fee is R500 but we also allow students to pay as they can afford. We do accept foreign students but they have to apply to the South African embassy in their respective countries who will provide them with their requirements. We will then issue a letter of acceptance which fulfills their requirements. For this we need your passport nr and other details as well as a list of their requirements with regards to us.

Students must speak and read English fairly well, and be able to read Arabic such as a fair recital of the Quranic text.

Feel free to contact me again should you have any additional enquiries.

Ma`as Salamah
Muaadth Allie

Muaadh's email is: muaadth_allie@yahoo.com
Shukran , hope this is good enough

[ummati]

Lol thank u sooo much brother. You dont understand how happy i am that i found this foruM! may allah reward all of you for helping me out in my time of need.. aameen. inshallah im gona give them a call i juss dont know what to say or what to ask for etc... :S but yeah.. once again jazakallah!


As Salaamu Alaikum sis

Hope you are in the best of health and Iman sis.I might be able to help you insha Allah,coz I do have some knowledge of the Madrassah.Great to see that you are so keen to study,may Allah accept your good intentions and make you successful.Ameen.

Regarding the details of the Girls Madressah Zakariyyah in South Africa- It's name is Madrassah Mueenul Islam,located in a suburb called Lenasia.

The telephone number is : + 27 (11) 859 1367

You should find the fflg threads helpful sis (scroll down):

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10141&page=2&highlight=girls+madrassa+zakariyyah

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12105&highlight=girls+madrassah

There is no age restrictions in place.There are girls as young as 12 going right up to 20 in the Madrassah,As long as you can cope and keep up with the class-especially in subjects like Arabic grammer (some students might find it abit difficult at fist if they've never experienced it before.) For those that cannot manage there is an Idadya(prepatory) class before the actual 1st year of Aalima.

The fees at the moment are about R950 per month and include boarding,meals,laundry.

The 2nd term has already started on Sunday (14th Jan) as the year ends just before Ramadhan.If you plan on coming this year you would have some catching up to do,though it is certainly not impossible,it will require some extra effort on your part.Or you could attend the Idadya class if you feel you need to get used to work and ease into the first class next year insha Allah.

Alternatively you could contact The Madrassah in Azaadville,if I'm not mistaken their tearms are strctured differently and this is their first term at the moment.The number:

Azaadville Girls Madrassah: 011 413 1364

Both Madrassahs are good masha Allah.Though the One at Zakariyyah is much bigger with students from all over the world (Malaysia,Thailand,Russia,Canada,america,England,B razil etc etc) and they complete all 6 hadeeth kitaabs over 5 years.Quite intense.

The one at Azaadville is much smaller but I hear they focus alot on Tarbiyat and the Mahol ( Environment) is nice.Its 4 years and they do till Mishkaat Shareef.

The Madrassah at Pietwrmaritzburg is the smallest of the boarding madrassahs.Its mostly local girls attending there.They are quite stict and they also do till mishkaat Shareef.It is also a good madrassah Alhamdulillah.The name is Madrassah Taalimun Niswaan and the number is :

+27 33 342 4428

I would have loved to entertain any more of your queries but I will unfortunately be unable to do so for a few months,due to lack of internet access.I make dua that Allah guides you to the best and makes your decision easy for you.Ameen.Remember me in your duas.

WAs Salaam

[Yasmin_S]

Salmz.
Got this much for u:
The madrassah is essentially Shafi`i so we focus on Shafi`i fiqh but do also teach the fiqh of the other 3 madhahib in certain issues. The monthly fee is R500 but we also allow students to pay as they can afford. We do accept foreign students but they have to apply to the South African embassy in their respective countries who will provide them with their requirements. We will then issue a letter of acceptance which fulfills their requirements. For this we need your passport nr and other details as well as a list of their requirements with regards to us.

Students must speak and read English fairly well, and be able to read Arabic such as a fair recital of the Quranic text.

Feel free to contact me again should you have any additional enquiries.

Ma`as Salamah
Muaadth Allie

Muaadh's email is: muaadth_allie@yahoo.com
Shukran , hope this is good enough
Asalumaliykum brother nazeer.. thank you sooo very much for that information , im not to clear on the admission tho. if thres any way you can expand on that? is there any more information you have on durul uloom zakariyya , or Madrassah Mueenul Islam as ive been told thats what the girls madressa is called. jazkallah in advance. and i truly pray to Allah to help all of you out for helping me out in my time of need... hope to hear from you soon. asalamu alikum

[YousefAbusSafar]

Allah yajzeekal khair akhi Nazeer.

[Yasmin_S]

Asalamu 'Alaykum. I just had a few questions if anyone can help me out with them it would be great.
1) Does darul uloom Zakariyya have a girls madressa aswell? if so is it the same madress or called something else?
2) what is the location of this madressa?
3) where is Madrassah Mueenul
4) any other information on Madrassah Mueenul
5) whats the girls madressa in zak park?

jazak'allah khair

[safia]

hi umm even i want to know about madrasah zakariyah ae. i want to study there so if anyone have any info on it then do write to me. slmzz

[safia]

slmz umm can you please somehow get a picture of that girls madrasah zakariyah please. thanks

[Nazeer]

salmz
will get back to you as soon as i get something
shukran

[razia_jaan]

asalam alykum sister would u know any good women madrasa in south africa there is a few but i dont know which one to choose.
Assalamu Alaikum,



Well South Africans speak *a lot* of English, more that any other language..say Urdu..Guji, like even the older generation they'll converse in English all the time. But I don't know whether it relates to the Madrassahs there as well.
But if I was studying, I'd rather study Arabic to Urdu kitabs, with minimum English..so that not only will my ilm increase (Insha-Allah) but also my knowledge of the chosen languages.

But yea, South Africa's a great place to study.

Wassalam.

[razia_jaan]

asalam alykum sister i am also looking for a good madrasa in south africa if you get any info please inform me too inshahAllah.


Asalamu 'Alaykum. I just had a few questions if anyone can help me out with them it would be great.
1) Does darul uloom Zakariyya have a girls madressa aswell? if so is it the same madress or called something else?
2) what is the location of this madressa?
3) where is Madrassah Mueenul
4) any other information on Madrassah Mueenul
5) whats the girls madressa in zak park?

jazak'allah khair

[bint Abdul Ghaffar]

asalam alykum sister i am also looking for a good madrasa in south africa if you get any info please inform me too inshahAllah.

W'salam...

The girls Madrasah in Azaadville, South Africa (Madrasah Tarbiyatul Banaat) is also an excellent madrasah with excellent teachers focusing on the tarbiyah of the students individually... like any other darul-ulooms - they work on your Imaan - Ibaadaat, Akhlaaq, Taqwa... Self-Reformation, Attaining nearness to Allaah Ta'ala of course... Attaining that sweetness of Imaan so that everything else of the dunyaa and aakhirah becomes sweet... :-)

Excellent relationship between teachers and students... They also train you on da'wah - how to work on your community as well once you return as a scholar..
Apart from all the tarbiyah during lessons there's three separate tarbiyah periods per week including one marriage class...to train you to be a good wife - daughter in law- sister in law..

Here's the number for this Madrasah if you're interested- +0027114131364

Hope that helped

W'salam

[islam223]

Asalaamualaykum i was wondering if this madressah Tarbiyatul Banaat also has a part time alimah course as well?

[bint Abdul Ghaffar]

Asalaamualaykum i was wondering if this madressah Tarbiyatul Banaat also has a part time alimah course as well?

Wa'AlaikumusSalaam,

It only offer full-time courses. The only allowance they give is that if you stay nearby, you may come for classes in the morning and return home after classes; which is about 6.00am-1.00pm.

hope that helped :-)

wsalaam

[islam223]

JazakAllah sister may Allah reward you.

[islam223]

asalaamualaykum wa rahmatullah,
sister, i was woundering if you also knew if the madressah also teaches arabic?