The Practice of Calling Adhan Over Graves by Hakim al-Ummah

[Hamood]

By Mawlana Ashraf 'Ali Thanawi

First of all, it is not established from any authentic hadith that Satan comes in the grave. But, if we do [hypothetically] accept that he does come in the grave, then his coming poses no possibility of harm (or threat), because the ability of misleading others is particular to this world [and not to the realm of barzakh and akhirah (hereafter)] as this world is a source of burden and tribulation. As is mentioned in a hadith: "The living cannot be guaranteed safety from fitnah (trials and tribulations) ..." When a person passes away, he cannot be now led astray if he was on guidance and cannot be guided if he was astray. Therefore, prescribing the adhan at this juncture is basing an unsound practice on an unsound [and invalid] proof.

More... (http://deoband.org/2009/06/fiqh/bida/the-practice-of-calling-adhan-over-graves/)

[kabikak]

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[Abu Anas As Salafi]

Waliekumuus Salam

What's the point of calling the adhan over a grave? There is no authentic narration stating such an action. The same goes for calling the adhan in the ear of the new born.

The adhan won't do the person any good when he is in the grave. Also, the adhan to a newborn won't do any good either.

These are just lame practices invented by the people which are spun from superstition.

Like back home, Pakistan - where most of the people are completely misguided. They have no correct aqeedah, the have little knowledge of pure Tawheed, they call to shirk - under the banner of these misguided groups such as the deobond, which is full of shirk, dallaal, and bidah. They are more interested in the hand of the Prophet coming out of the his grave (peace be upon him) then learning beneficial knowledge.

They'd rather worry about the adhan over a grave - then to stop calling upon intercessors, and "wali's " of Allah...

La hawla wala quwata illah billah.

[hope_n_fear]

these misguided groups such as the deobond, which is full of shirk, dallaal, and bidah. They are more interested in the hand of the Prophet coming out of the his grave (peace be upon him) then learning beneficial knowledge.

:salam:

I am not sure if you read the article, but the article declared the practice of calling adhan over grave as bidah, and it is written by an 'Alim the scholars of deoband look upto.

So it's incorrect to label such grave remarks against the group of deoband, as they are staunch against bidah, and shirk. You are may be thinking of some other group.

Hope that clarifies.
:jazak:

:salam:

[Allahhuakbar]

Waliekumuus Salam

The same goes for calling the adhan in the ear of the new born.

Also, the adhan to a newborn won't do any good either.


Asak,

Sorry to say but you are wrong :cheesygri , here are the some hadith

Abu Rafie[RA] said: 'I saw the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) calling Azan in the ear of al-Hasan bin Ali (Radiya Allahu anhu) when Fatima (Radiya Allahu anha)gave birth to him.' [ Abu Dawod, al-Tirmizi who graded him as sound]

Al-Hasan bin Ali[RA] from the Prophet that he said: "If one calls Azan in the right ear of a new born and Iqamah in his left ear Umm al-Sibyan (a kind of disease) will not affect him" [ al-al-Baihaqi, Abu Y'ala]

Fatwa: http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/ask.pl?q=5504&act=view

Wassalaam

[Abu Anas As Salafi]

Some forum this is! They deleted my reply! La hawla wala quwata illah billah !

See, that's the thing. I'm from Pakistan, and I speak urdo, and their languages - when I deal with those brothers, with the help of Allah - I expose them. For their shirk, and their kufur. Then they can't do anything but just threaten to kill me, or my family.

Subhan'Allah, if you brothers think that the Ummah will unite under all these deviants groups, and that everybody can have a different ideology for "the greater good", then you have another thing coming.

There is no uniting upon bidah, and shirk. Their only unification upon Tawheed, and the correct understanding of the Sunnah.

And if this forum is run by some Tablighi/deobandi, then I am calling you out.

Ap log Islam Par Mazak orathe ho. Ap log hamara deen par zahair dalte ho.



La hawla wala quwata illah billah

[Abu Anas As Salafi]

:salam:

I am not sure if you read the article, but the article declared the practice of calling adhan over grave as bidah, and it is written by an 'Alim the scholars of deoband look upto.

So it's incorrect to label such grave remarks against the group of deoband, as they are staunch against bidah, and shirk. You are may be thinking of some other group.

Hope that clarifies.
:jazak:

:salam:

My post was deleted. So, now? How are these cowards going to hold debates if they see something that exposes them, and they just delete it??? Why don't they step up to the plate. I'd rather fall of a cliff then to join that heretical group. What really kills them is when I speak against them in Urdo, and I am Pakistani.

I say to deobonds, and the tablighs.."die in your anger", because the Salafi Dawah and the pure monotheism of Mohammad is spreading amongst our brothers and sisters in India and Pakistan. All praise be to Allah.

People are seeing through these molvis which is why people are hating Islam in Pakistan and India, because your people delude them.

You make a mockery of this religion.

[hope_n_fear]

:salam:

Br. Abu Anas, I think you should calm down a bit in your words.
I am not suggesting that you stop your fight against shirk or bid'ah, but rather do so without curses or name callings.
Please remember that not all of us fall into categories you are defining.
:jazak:

:salam:

[Abu Anas As Salafi]

:salam:

Br. Abu Anas, I think you should calm down a bit in your words.
I am not suggesting that you stop your fight against shirk or bid'ah, but rather do so without curses or name callings.
Please remember that not all of us fall into categories you are defining.
:jazak:

:salam:

Na'am, okay....

But, I would like to know why they deleted my post? If this is some biased forum, run by some narrow minded deobond, then I'm going to stop posting here right now.

Because not everybody is going to log onto here calling to grave worship.

[hope_n_fear]

:salam:

I am not sure why your post was deleted.

By the way, this forum is anti-grave worship or any form of shirk (obviously). So visitors are safe inshaAllaah.

:salam:

[Sunnionline.english]

See, that's the thing. I'm from Pakistan, and I speak urdo, and their languages - when I deal with those brothers, with the help of Allah - I expose them. For their shirk, and their kufur. Then they can't do anything but just threaten to kill me, or my family.

Salam on Alaikom
which kind of brotherhood is there, when you claim that they involved in bidah and shirk? Do not try to takfeer the Muslims please! I codumn a person who shows that want to kill you just because of your beliefs.

[Saad]

Assalam o 'alaykum,

Calling ahdan in front of the grave and recite loud zikr in front of a janazah is bid’ah by consensus!

Shaykh Wahbi ibn Sulayman al-Ghawji al-Albani writes:

“He [Shaykh Sa’id Ramadan al-Buti] said: “Perhaps the most restricted definitions of Bid’ah will include in it only that upon which there is consensus on classifying it as Bid’ah. There is the meaning implied by the Qur’an and the Sunnah and this is the definition preferred by Imam al-Shatibi in his book Al-I’tisam which is: “An introduced way in the Din which opposes the Shari’ah and is intended to serve as a means to worship Allah.”

He defined it with another definition which is broader in its implication and with the result some issues about which there is some difference of opinion may be included. We will commence from the first definition trying to spell out the area of disagreement and the area of consensus.

The scholars are unanimous that Bid’ah is Haram (prohibited) and there is no doubt that any way introduced in the name of religion irrespective whether in ‘Aqidah or in acts of worship is certainly Bid’ah. So to introduce another Salat over and above the obligatory and confined voluntary Salat, or to introduce fasting on another specific day without anything reported in the Qur’an or in the Sunnah, or even to confine oneself to one form of food regarding it as an act of devotion, or to raise the voice reciting Qasidah’s and adhkar in front of the Janazah. Or even to call out the adhan in front of the grave. This will include introducing some aspects of belief like assuming that Jahannam will perish and the punishment of the disbelievers will end or even to maintain that their punishment is only one of disgrace. All of this is Bid’ah by consensus and therefore to adopt any of this is a deviation as was explained by the Messenger of Allah.”

http://www.scribd.com/full/37802480?access_key=key-xkoogf4q4hzmpm2aaje