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شعيب‎ محمد
30-12-2009, 03:04 AM
Assalaamualaikum

True Life
30-12-2009, 03:26 AM
:salam:

(One Hadith suggests) to immediatly seek refuge from Shaytan.

saqfu
03-01-2010, 04:38 PM
these bad thoughts are just shatan waswasay, the best solution is to read "i seek refuge in shaytan...." in arabic and spit three times on the left shoulder ( not actually spitting saliva just the action) and ingore them. whenever the come kepp letting them come and
thnik about something else. they will disappear after a while. it is just shaytan. so ingore them

hazratji
03-01-2010, 04:41 PM
My tableegi friend says :

One solution to all the problems , very simple call 222

and then he explains ,,

2 rakats salatul hajat at 2 am with 2 drops of tear , and problem solved

saqfu
03-01-2010, 05:13 PM
My tableegi friend says :

One solution to all the problems , very simple call 222

and then he explains ,,

2 rakats salatul hajat at 2 am with 2 drops of tear , and problem solved

i see, he is right as well, when i was suffering from was waswasay my dad told me to read to rakat nafll after isha wich i did.
like isaid when they come, let them come, and ignore them, theses are not my word but from expert pious people. for example if you reading salat and these thougts come, dont focus on them just continue focusing on the salat, on what ur reading, after a few seconds they will disappear, then different thoughts will come. these are going to come for the rest of your lie because you follow islam, so shaytan will bother you until you die.


i was suffering from waswasay about the prophets pbu them all. a pious person told me to read 1 tasbeeh of la hola wala koowata illa billah and ayatay kareema, i also got a taweez which i put in a bottle of water and drink from. now the waswasay are almost finished.

u need to get into the habit of ignoring them and thinking about something else when ever these thoughts come because they are going to come for the rest of your life. remember there is no sin in these thoughts nor is there any harm in them, just shaytany waswasay because you have iman in your heart.

are from the deoband school of thought?

hazratji
03-01-2010, 07:14 PM
if u are asking me , yes i am .

saqfu
03-01-2010, 07:46 PM
if u are asking me , yes i am .


no wonder waswaqsay are coming. they come to every one even kafirs but they come more severly to people who are on the right path. deobandis are on the right path, their aqaid are correct, that means that u have noor in ur qalb, which is why shaytan is putting waswasay in ur heart. like i said let them come, just ignore them and think about something else, they will disappear after a while.

i suffered rom waswasay like ur self form many year. they grew to an extreme level, but the have been reduced to minimum now.

by the way im deobandi as well and i also follow the naqsbandia awaisia sufi order.

xs11ax
03-01-2010, 07:53 PM
no wonder waswaqsay are coming. they come to every one even kafirs but they come more severly to people who are on the right path. deobandis are on the right path, their aqaid are correct, that means that u have noor in ur qalb, which is why shaytan is putting waswasay in ur heart. like i said let them come, just ignore them and think about something else, they will disappear after a while.

i suffered rom waswasay like ur self form many year. they grew to an extreme level, but the have been reduced to minimum now.

by the way im deobandi as well and i also follow the naqsbandia awaisia sufi order.

salaam,

which country do you live in?

saqfu
03-01-2010, 07:57 PM
im from bradford in the uk. why?

saqfu
03-01-2010, 08:06 PM
i will do it right now!

taqwasunnat
04-01-2010, 04:34 AM
May allah save me from the fire of hell....As what getting in my mind that surely my khatima will be on kufr.
Nauzubillah
IT IS coming that if this world is created my allah then who created allah nauzubillah may allah 4give me THEN i will reply to that waswasa if no lord is there in the world how world will come into existence.After this waswasaa stops...but after sometime it starts again IM BECOMING MAD.
Im the follower of deobandi school of thought i do ghast, go in jamaat.

hazratji
04-01-2010, 06:52 AM
My tableegi friend says :

One solution to all the problems , very simple call 222

and then he explains ,,

2 rakats salatul hajat at 2 am with 2 drops of tear , and problem solved

Do the masnoon zikar after fajr aur asar , and ask help from Allah

xs11ax
04-01-2010, 09:26 AM
i suggest the brother speaks to an alim or a true shaikh of tassawuf who is qualified to help him in this matter.

ahlezikr
04-01-2010, 09:44 AM
i suggest the brother speaks to an alim or a true shaikh of tassawuf who is qualified to help him in this matter.

Assalamu Alaikum
Brother xs11ax I sent you a mail. Kindly check and reply

naeem-1964
04-01-2010, 12:06 PM
Assalamu alaykum.
I think xs11ax has given some very sound advice. Imam Rabbani, Ahmad Sirhindi (qs) has written in a letter in his first volume of the collected letters that 'evil thoughts' are not necessarily threatening, but instead may be a sign of faith. He mentioned the narration of a companion coming to the Messenger of God (alayhis salam) complaining of 'evil thoughts' that he did not want to have divulged. The gist of the Messenger's response was that he praised God Most High for keeping such thoughts hidden in members of his umma, the Messenger did not indicate in the generality of his response other than this.
Though this is a letter [referring to Imam Rabbani's letter] of general import, I think the brother having these 'whisperings' should be grateful to Allah Most High that they are pushing him to seek a means to remove them from him, and this assault of 'evil thoughts' may in itself be a means of Allah Most High's that He is using to have the brother come closer to Him. The advice given about visiting a sound alim or shaykh of tasawwuf is sound and good.
When these thoughts as described occur bring to mind the Kalima for it is a curative for spiritual ailments and maladies.
Our tawfiq is in Him Most High!

saqfu
04-01-2010, 12:39 PM
i suggest the brother speaks to an alim or a true shaikh of tassawuf who is qualified to help him in this matter.

im a sufi and i have suffered from extreme waswasay for many and they have nboew been reduced to a minimum. if u r having doubts about allahs existence then you need to read a tesbeeh of lahola wala koowata illah billah
and 1 of ayat kareem. they will dissappear after a while. this is just shaytan when ever they come think abour something else, they will dissappear. i recently had severe doubts about allahs existence, i talked a wali ullah i know who has kashf he told me to read those tasbeeeh i have mentioned daily. they doubts have almost finished now

Colonel_Hardstone
04-01-2010, 01:03 PM
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?53987-Cure-for-Evil-thoughts-and-Whispers-of-Shaytaan-%28Shaykh-Hakeem-Akhtar-Saheb-%28DB%29%29

:salam:

Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeem Akhtar Saheb (DB) writes...

The solution to the evil thoughts and whispers from Shaytaan is to “Seek Refuge in Allah (SWT) by reciting A'udhu bi'llahi min ash-shaytani'r-rajim ('I seek refuge with Allah from the Accursed Shaytan')." And then ignore the matter.

In our country there are people who own huge mansions and palaces and then they import a vicious dog from a foreign country to guard the property and as soon as someone goes near the property the dog starts barking and being vicious. The solution is neither to reason with the dog nor to bark back! The owner comes and says a word or two (like a password) and the same vicious dog stops barking and starts waging his tail.

Shaytaan is a VICIOUS dog and Allah (SWT) is the owner and the password is reciting A'udhu bi'llahi min ash-shaytani'r-rajim ('I seek refuge with Allah from the Accursed Shaytan').

We have not been commanded to argue with evidence and proofs with the Shaytaan and to defeat him in an intellectual manner! If we could or if that was the most sensible course of action then surely Allah (SWT) would have commanded to “engage the Shaytaan intellectually and to trample him under the weight of your polished and sophisticated argument”. But what actually happens is as soon as you try to answer one argument he presents another one and another one and then another one, there is no end to the trickery of the Accursed one.

The solution to the vicious dog is to rely on the advice of the owner of the dog!

About ignoring evil thoughts and whispers, it is actually a very logical concept. When you are fasting and its extremely hot outside, don’t thoughts of enjoying a cold glass of water come into your mind? Do mere thoughts of sipping on cold refreshing water break your fast? No it doesn't! A thousand such random thousands will have no affect on your fast..ACTING on this thought would break your fast but not mere thought!

All of you sitting here have urine and excrement inside your bodies right this minute. Does the mere presence of filth inside your bodies break your Wudhu ? Off course it doesn't until it actually comes out...

Similarly ignore evil thoughts and whispers of Shaytaan as they don’t damage your Eemaan in anyway and don’t dwell on them, rather think of something else and engage yourself in an activity which pleases Allah (SWT) .

Lastly, know that Shaytaan can only whisper but has no physical power to influence you in anyway whatsoever. Imagine if Shaytaan came here and physically lifted all of you from this gathering and took you to a Cinema :-) All Praise be to Allah (SWT) that he can't physically take you to the Cinema otherwise everybody will reason with Allah (SWT) on the day of judgement that we went to listen to a Shaykh BUT Shaytaan came, overpowered us and took us to the Cinema! :-) :-) :-)

And this is what this humble servant of Allah (SWT) i.e. Akhtar has learned from his elders, Ulama and Mashaykh and All Praises be to Allah (SWT).

Usama2
04-01-2010, 02:56 PM
Salam alaikum

I agree that the course to dealing with Shaytan is the prescribed duat. Besides the one Muadh mentioned, say the tasbeeh 11 times: laa illaha illa allah wahdahu laa sharika allah, lahul mulk, wal lahul hamd, biyaddil khayr, yahyee wa yu meed, wa huwa allah kulli shayyan qadeer. An Nabi (saaw) reported to have said that saying this at dawn/after salatu fajr will protect the believer from shaytan until the night. and then saying these 11 after salatul isha will protect the believer until dawn.

As for dealing with the knowledge level of the Muslim, he should continually seek knowledge and study the Quran and the ayat pertaining to Allah (SWT). And to seek to gain a greater understanding of ar Rabbil Alamin. The reality is the aqeedah should be firm and bound tight, like an unbreakable knot. His knowledge of Allah (SWT) and His Saffat should be definitive.

And Allah knows best.

verdana
04-01-2010, 03:50 PM
Here is how the issue was takled by the Ottoman Scholar Bediuzzaman Said Nursi:

The Second Station of the Twenty -First Word

[This comprises five cures for five of the heart's wounds.]

In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. And say: "O my Sustainer! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions o, f the evil ones * And I seek refuge e with you, O my Sustainer, lest they should come near me. "

O one afflicted with the sickness of scruples! Do you know what your scruples resemble? A calamity! The more importance they are given, the more they grow. If you give them no importance, they die away. If you see them as big, they grow bigger. If you see them as small, they grow smaller. If you fear them, they swell and make you ill. If you do not fear them, they are light and remain hidden. If you do not know their true nature, they persist and become established. While if you do know them and recognize them, they disappear. And so, I shall explain only Five Aspects which, of the many sorts of these calamitous scruples, are those which most frequently occur. Perhaps it may be curative for you and for me, for these scruples are such that ignorance invites them and knowledge repulses them. If you do not recognize them they come, if you do recognize them they go.

· FIRST ASPECT - FIRST WOUND

Satan first casts a doubt into the heart. If the heart does not accept it, it turns from a doubt into abuse. It depicts before the imagination some unclean memories and unmannerly, ugly states which resemble abuse, and causes the heart to declare: "Alas!", and fall into despair. The person suffering from scruples supposes that he has acted wrongfully before his Sustainer and feels a terrible agitation and anxiety. In order to be saved from it, he flees from the Divine presence and wants to plunge into heedlessness. The cure for this wound is this:

O wretched man suffering from scruples! Do not be alarmed! For what comes to your mind is not abuse, but something imaginary. And like to imagine unbelief is not unbelief, to imagine abuse is not abuse either. For according to logic, an imagining is not a judgement , and abuse is a judgement. And moreover, those ugly words are not the words of your heart, because your heart is saddened and sorry at them. Rather they come from the inner faculty situated near the heart which is the means of Satanic whisperings. The harm of scruples is imagining the harm. That is, it is to suffer harm in the heart through imagining them to be harmful. For it is imagining to be reality an imagining which is devoid of judgement. Also, it is to attribute to the heart Satan's works; to suppose his words to be from it. Such a person thinks it is harmful, so it becomes harmful. And anyway that is what Satan wanted.

· SECOND ASPECT

It is this: when meanings arise in the heart, they enter the imagination stripped of form; it is there that they are clothed in form. And the imagination, always under some cause, weaves forms of a sort. It leaves on the way the forms of the things to which it gives importance. Whatever meaning passes through it, it either clothes it, or wears it, or taints it, or veils it. If the meanings are pure and clean, and the forms, dirty and base, there is no clothing, but there is contact. The man with scruples confuses the contact with being clothed. He exclaims: "Alas! How corrupted my heart has become. This baseness and meanness drive me out!" Satan takes advantage of this vein of his. The cure for this wound is as follows:

Listen, O you unfortunate! Just as outward cleanliness, which is the means to the clean correctness of your prayers, is not affected by the uncleanness of the inside of your inner organs, and is not spoiled by it, so too the sacred meanings being close to unclean forms does not harm them. Suddenly you feel ill, or an appetite, or a stimulation like a need to pass water. Of course your imagination will see whatever is necessary to cure the ill or answer the need, and will look at it, weave lowly forms appropriate to them, and the meanings that arise will pass between them. But there is no harm in their passing, nor soiling, nor error, nor injury. If there is any mistake, it is in paying them attention and imagining the harm.

· THIRD ASPECT

It is this: there are certain hidden connections between things. There are even the threads of connections in things which you least expected. They are either there in fact, or your imagination made them according to the art with which it was occupied, and tied them together. It is due to this mystery of connections that sometimes seeing a sacred thing calls to mind a dirty thing. As stated in the science of rhetoric, "Opposition, which is the cause of distance in the outer world, is the cause of proximity in the imagination. That is, the means of bringing together the forms of two opposites, is an imaginary connection. The calling to mind which arises through this connection is called the association of ideas.

For example, while performing the prayers or reciting supplications before the Ka'ba, in the Divine Presence, although you are reflecting on Qur'anic verses, this association of ideas takes you and drives you to the furthest, lowest trivia. If your head is afflicted with association of ideas such as that, beware, do not be alarmed. Rather, the moment you come to your senses, turn back. Do not say: "I've done a great wrong", and keep playing with the trigger, lest through your attention, that weak connection finds strength. Because the more you show regret, the more importance you give it, and that weak memory of yours becomes ingrained. It becomes an imaginary sickness. Do not be frightened, it is not a sickness of the heart. This sort of recollection is mostly involuntary. Especially in sensitive, nervous people it is more common. Satan works the mine of this sort of scruple a great deal. The cure for this wound is as follows:

The association of ideas is mostly involuntary. One is not answerable for them. And in association there is proximity; there is no touching or intermingling. Therefore the nature of the ideas do not pass to one another and do not harm one another. Just as Satan and the angel of inspiration being in proximity to one another around the heart, and sinners and the pious being close to one another in the same house do not cause harm, so too, if, at the prompting of the association of ideas, dirty imaginings come and enter among clean thoughts, they cause no harm. Unless it is intentional, or by imagining them to be harmful, one is over-occupied with them. And sometimes the heart becomes tired, and the mind, in order to entertain itself, occupies itself with anything it encounters. Then Satan finds an opportunity, and scatters dirty things before it, and drives it on.

· FOURTH ASPECT

This is a scruple arising from searching for the best form of an action. Supposing it to be fear of God, the more rigorous it becomes, the more severe the condition becomes for the person. It even reachs such a point that while searching for even better forms of action, he fall into what is unlawful. Sometimes searching for a Sunna makes him give up what is obligatory. He says: "I wonder if my act was sound?", and repeats it. This state continues, and he falls into terrible despair. Satan takes advantage of this state of his, and wounds him. There are two cures for this wound.

The First Cure : Scruples like this are worthy of the Mu'tazilites, because they say: "Actions and things for which a person is responsible are either, of themselves and in regard to the hereafter, good, and because of that good they were commanded, or they are bad, and because they are bad they were prohibited. That means, from the point of view of reality and the hereafter, the good and bad in things is dependent on the things themselves, and the Divine command and prohibition follows this." According to this school of thought, the following scruple arises in every action which a person performs: "I wonder if my action was performed in the good way that in essence it is?" While the true school, Ahl-i Sunna va Jama'at, say: "Almighty God orders a thing, then it becomes good. He prohibits a thing, then it becomes bad." That is, goodness becomes existent through command, and badness through prohibition. They look to the awareness of the one who performs the action, and are established according to that. And this good and bad is not in the apparent face and that which looks to this world, but in the face that looks to the hereafter.

For example, you performed the prayers or took the ablutions and there was a cause that of itself would spoil them, but you were completely unaware of it. Your prayers and ablutions, therefore, are both sound and acceptable. However, the Mu'tazilites say: "In reality it was bad and unsound. But it may be accepted from you because you were ignorant and did not know, so you have an excuse." Therefore, according to the Ahl-i Sunna School, do not say about an action which is conformable with the externals of the Shari'a: "I wonder if it was sound?"; do not have scruples about it. Rather, say:

"Was it accepted?"; do not become proud and conceited!

The Second Cure : This is: There is no difficulty in religion. Since the four schools of law are true; and since realizing a fault which leads to the seeking of forgiveness is preferable - for the person afflicted with scruples - to seeing actions as good, which leads to pride, that is, it is better if such a person sees his action as faulty and seeks forgiveness, rather than seeing it as good and falling into pride; since it is thus, you throw away your scruples and say to Satan: "This state is a difficulty. It is difficult to be aware of the reality of things. It is contrary to the ease in religion expressed by: There is no difficulty in religion. It is contrary to the principle, Religion is facility. Certainly an action of mine such as that is conformable with a true school of law. That is enough for me. And at least by confessing my impotence since I cannot perform the worship in a way worthy of it, it is a means of taking refuge with Divine compassion through humbly beseeching forgiveness, and to meekly supplicating that my faulty actions be accepted.

· FIFTH ASPECT

In matters of belief, what comes in the form of doubts are scruples. The unhappy man suffering from scruples sometimes confuses conceptions in his mind with imaginings. That is, he imagines a doubt that has come to his imagination to be a doubt that has entered his mind, and supposes that his beliefs have been spoiled. And sometimes he supposes a doubt he has imagined to have harmed his belief. And sometimes he supposes a doubt he has imagined to have been confirmed by his reason. And sometimes he supposes pondering over a matter pertaining to unbelief to be unbelief. That is, he supposes to be contrary to belief the exercising of his ability to reflect in the form of understanding the causes of misguidance, and its studying and reasoning in impartial fashion. Thus, taking fright at these suppositions, which result from the whisperings of Satan, he exclaims: "Alas! My heart is corrupted and my beliefs spoiled." Since those states are mostly involuntary, and he cannot put them to rights through his faculty of will, he falls into despair. The cure for this wound is as follows:

Just as imagining unbelief is not unbelief, neither is fancying unbelief, unbelief. And just as imagining misguidance is not misguidance, so too reflecting on misguidance is not misguidance. For both imagining, and fancying, and supposing, and reflecting, are different from confirmation with the reason and submission of the heart, and other than them. They are free to a degree. They do not listen to the faculty of will. They do not altogether enter under the obligations of religion. But affirmation and submission are not like that; they are dependent on a balance. And just as imagining, fancying, supposing, and reflecting are not affirming and submitting, so too they cannot be said to be doubt or hesitation. But if they are repeated unnecessarily and become established, then a sort of real doubt may be born of them. Also, calling it unbiased reasoning or being fair, continuously taking the part of the opposing side reaches such a point that such a person involuntarily favours the opposing side. His preference of the truth, which is incumbent on him, is shattered. And he too falls into danger. A state of mind becomes established in his head whereby he becomes an officious representative of Satan or the enemy.

The most important of this sort of scruple is this: the person suffering from it confuses something that is actually possible with something which is reasonably possible. That is, if he sees something which is of itself possible, he imagines it to be reasonably possible and reasonably doubtful. Whereas one of the principles of theology is that something which is of itself possible is not opposed to the certainty afforded by knowledge and it does not contradict the demands of reason. For example, the Black Sea sinking into the earth at this moment is of itself possible, but we judge with certainty that the sea is in its place, and we know this without doubting it, and that possibility which is actually possible causes us no doubt and does not damage our certainty. And, for example, of itself it is possible that the sun will not set today or that it will not rise tomorrow. But this possibility causes no harm to our certainty and does not give rise to any doubt. Thus, like this, baseless suspicions arising from possibilities of this sort about, for example, the setting of the life of this world and rising of the life of the hereafter, which are among the truths of belief, cause no harm to the certainty of belief. Furthermore, the well-known rule, A possibility that does not arise from any proof or evidence is of no importance is one of the established principles of both the sciences of the bases of religion and the bases of jurisprudence.

If you say: "What is the wisdom and purpose in scruples being visited on us, which are thus harmful and an affliction for believers?"

The Answer: On condition they do not lead to excess or overwhelm a person, essentially scruples are the cause of vigilance, lead to seeking the best way, and are the means to seriousness. They cast away indifference and repulse carelessness. Therefore, in this realm of examination and arena of competition, the Absolutely Wise One gave them to the hand of Satan as a whip of encouragement for us. He strikes it at our heads. If it hurts excessively, then one must complain to the All-Wise and Compassionate One, and say: I seek refuge with God from Satan the Accursed.

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