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Colonel_Hardstone
02-02-2010, 03:28 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/02/equality-laws-unjust-pope-uk

Pope Benedict XVI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI) has arrived in UK and immediately issued statements in defense of heterosexuality and in opposition to Homosexuality.

...Speaking at the Vatican to visiting Catholic bishops of England and Wales, he described changes to the law as unjust and urged them to invoke "missionary zeal" to resist them....

Q1) Should the Muslims join hands with the Catholics on this issue?

Q2) What is the Shariah stance on co-operating with people of the book on common issues?

:jazak:

Idil_
02-02-2010, 03:30 PM
No they shouldn't, that are far greater problems facing the MUSLIM community that we should concern ourselves with.

Colonel_Hardstone
02-02-2010, 03:31 PM
No they shouldn't, that are far greater problems facing the MUSLIM community that we should concern ourselves with.

Vote please :-)

Idil_
02-02-2010, 03:48 PM
Accha meri Bhai

verdana
02-02-2010, 04:47 PM
:salam:

There are not many options to vote. As Muslims we should voice out our own objectives but not with Catholics or Jews. Simply because their agenda is not equal to ours even in this very issue as Christians consider homosexuality a sin only between same genders and allowing homosexual acts between husband and wife.

5M1L3Y
02-02-2010, 06:00 PM
:salam:

Yes they should, it is Birr(Working for the common good) and perhaps it may develop some unity and they may receive Hidayah.

meelash
02-02-2010, 06:37 PM
Any person who stands for something good we should stand with them. Just like the Prophet :saw: praised that treaty that was signed by the leaders of makkah protecting the rights of the oppressed in the pre-Islamic period, and stated that he would still have signed it even after his prophethood.

However, we need to be careful and demand that we do not get involved in anything which is haraam, i.e. television interviews, protest marches with music, etc., etc.

Another thing- there is no such thing as "homosexuality". It is called sodomy and it is an act and other acts which lead to that act which are blameworthy. "Homosexual" the word is describing a state, a preference. Sodomy describes an act.

Therefore we should not give in to calling it by this euphemism, which is used to muddle the emotions and play on the ideas of "love" etc.

ibn Mikael
03-02-2010, 12:49 AM
Any person who stands for something good we should stand with them. Just like the Prophet :saw: praised that treaty that was signed by the leaders of makkah protecting the rights of the oppressed in the pre-Islamic period, and stated that he would still have signed it even after his prophethood.

However, we need to be careful and demand that we do not get involved in anything which is haraam, i.e. television interviews, protest marches with music, etc., etc.

Another thing- there is no such thing as "homosexuality". It is called sodomy and it is an act and other acts which lead to that act which are blameworthy. "Homosexual" the word is describing a state, a preference. Sodomy describes an act.

Therefore we should not give in to calling it by this euphemism, which is used to muddle the emotions and play on the ideas of "love" etc.

:salam:

That's actually a good point. Most people would have a completely different reaction if you started criticizing homosexuals for committing sodomy (which is a disgusting, dirty act which causes serious bodily injury) and not for simply being homosexuals. I know at least in America, it's not considered polite to critique a person for what they "are" (or at least what they say they are), but it is generally alright to criticize a person for committing an action, especially an action as disgusting as sodomy.

Al-Faruqi
03-02-2010, 02:38 AM
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

The 'izzah (honour) of the Muslims is in Islam and Islam alone, we do not need kuffar to speak up against something.