Ghayrah for Islam Has Become a Deficiency

[Al-Faruqi]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.



Ghayrah for Islam Has Become a Deficiency

“...It is a disaster that your heart dies without you noticing. It is as if you say: ‘O Lord! How often I rebel against You without you punishing me for it!’ And He replies: ‘How often I punish you without you even noticing! Haven’t I removed the life from your heart?’

The death of the heart, the lack of reaction to the Shar’i texts, that your face doesn’t become red for the sake of Allah...that’s it. Your heart is dead. It no longer pumps blood. In fact, this has now become something shameful. It has now become blameworthy for one to have zeal and to react strongly when he sees some corruption or evil in front of him. This is now considered a deficiency of the many deficiencies that can exist in one’s character. People will say that you are a poor guy who is quick to get charged up, or that you are passionate, or that you are zealous, or that you are rash, or that you are a fundamentalist, etc. Yes! It is now something blameworthy!

...Yes, and this is why we now use these terms without realizing what we’re saying. This person is too simple- minded, this person is too passionate, that person is a fanatic, easily charged up, zealous, etc. And is this religion given victory by mere reason, or is it given victory by zeal and passion? Reason tells you: how can you stand against Russia? Malik bin Nabi said that the index finger of Bilal that was raised to the sky saying ‘Ahad, Ahad (He is One, He is One)’ was not the voice of reason. Rather, this was the voice of emotion, because reason would tell him to deceive Umayyah bin Khalaf and then come at night and renew his Islam with Muhammad.

Someone once said to me: “Brother, we shouldn’t be so open with everything we say. I sat for two years in an office without my coworker knowing my mindset.” So, I said to him: “May Allah ease your affairs. This means that for two years, you didn’t speak a single word encouraging good or forbidding evil because if you had spoken, he would have known your mindset?” And he considers this to have been cleverness on his part!

The cowards think that cowardliness is intelligence * This is the deception of the wicked soul...”
['Fi Dhilal Surat at-Tawbah'; p. 223]

[skhkmomin]

Walikumassalam

Brother Al Faruqi do you know of any source where one can go through the inspirational talks or written matter of Abdullah Azzam Shaheed RA.

Jazakallah

[Al-Faruqi]

FATWA: The Ruling on Dispossessing the Disbelievers' wealth in Dar al-Harb
by Shaykh Anwar al-Awlaki

All praise is due to Allah and peace and blessings on his Messenger Muhammad (SAW).

Islam stipulates certain conditions for taking the wealth of the disbelievers. According to our classical scholars, it becomes permissible to take the disbelievers wealth for jihad-related purposes even if one is without an army or an Imam; and even within this there are restrictions. Due to the unfamiliarity of some on this subject, I felt the need to clarify this.

The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said, “I was sent before the hour with the sword, and my sustenance is under my spear, and humility and belittlement is the destiny of whoever defies my commands.”[1]

This great ĥadīth reveals some important aspects about our religion:

Muhammad (SAW) was sent with the sword: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) and the mujahidin after him carried the light of Islam to humanity by fighting in Allah's cause.
The greatest form of income is that of the spoils of war and the greatest profession is being a soldier in the path of Allah. The income generated from booty taken by force from the enemies of Allah is purer and more virtuous than income generated from being a businessman, an engineer, a physician, or a farmer, simply because that was the source of income that Allah destined for his Messenger Muhammad (SAW). Working as a mujahid is sunnah.
Eventually all the enemies of the Messenger of Allah (SAW) and his ummah would be shamed and humiliated.

It is narrated that some of the şaĥābah who moved to the land of al-Sham for jihad began acquiring farms and cultivating them. These were fertile lands with an abundance of water that they were not used to seeing in their native lands of Hijaz. When the khalīfah Umar heard that, he waited until harvest season and right before the şaĥābah started harvesting their land. He then ordered that they be burnt to the ground. He then assembled the şaĥābah and told them: "Farming is the role of the people of book. You should be fighting in the cause of Allah."[2] Umar did not want the şaĥābah to be tied down to this earth by professions that would hold them back from jihad in the path of Allah.

They wanted to be free from restrictions that would enslave them like the rest of humanity. The statement of Umar implies that the people who are attached to this life, the people of the book, should do this menial work. But you, the Muslims, should seek your provisions by the strength of your swords.
The Messenger of Allah (SAW) worked as a shepherd and then as a businessman before Islam. But after he received the revelation he gave that up and devoted his entire time to spreading the message of Islam. So contrary to what many people believe, Rasūlullāh (SAW)did not work after he became a prophet. When he made hijrah to Madinah his provisions were from the spoils of war.

Some Muslims today might feel uncomfortable consuming money that was seized by force from the disbelievers and would feel that income they receive as a salary or from business is a better form of income. That is not true. The best and purest form of income is booty. The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "…and the spoils of war are made halal for me…"[3]

I. Ghanīmah and fai’

These are the two types of wealth that are taken from the enemy. Following is the definition of each:

Ghanīmah is the money taken from the disbelievers by force by the strength of the mujahidin and in a way that raises the word of Allah.[4]

Fai' is what is taken from the disbelievers without fighting.[5]

Rulings of ghanīmah and fai’:

After ghanīmah is collected, one fifth of it is taken away in what is called "takhmīs" which I would refer to from now on as the "one-fifth rule". The rest (80%) is distributed among the fighters. There is a difference of opinion on how the one-fifth is then distributed. Some say it should be spent on jihad while others say it should be spent on the needs of Muslims while others say a portion of it should be spent on the scholars and judges of the Muslim state.

As for the money of fai', it belongs to the Muslim treasury.

So the difference between ghanīmah and fai' is that four-fifths of the ghanīmah belongs to the mujahidin while none of the fai' belongs to them.

Can ghanīmah and fai’ be taken from the disbelievers in the West today?

To answer this question we would need to answer the following two questions first:


Are the nations of the West classified as dār al-ĥarb (land of war) or dār al-'aĥd (land of covenant)?
If the West is dār al-ĥarb, are the Muslims who live there bound by a covenant that prohibits them from harming their countries of residence?


The answer to the first question:

First of all there is no Islamic leadership authorized to enter into covenants with the nations of disbelief in the present day. This is because the governments of the Muslim world have lost their legitimacy for many reasons, among them:

Governance according to manmade laws.
Taking the disbelievers as allies.
Fighting the awliyā' of Allah.

Therefore any agreements or treatise between the governments of the Muslim world and other parties are considered to be bāţil (illegitimate).

Second: Any nation that enters into war with the Muslims, or participates in invading a Muslim land has by de facto become dār al-ĥarb. Therefore all of the Western nations that have an active participation in the occupation of Afghanistan or Iraq or any other Muslim land are considered to be dār al-ĥarb.

The answer to the second question:

This is a critical issue and therefore would be covered in a separate paper, In Shā’ Allāh. However, my conclusion on this matter is that Muslims are not bound by the covenants of citizenship and visa that exist between them and nations of dār al-ĥarb.

It is the consensus of our scholars that the property of the disbelievers in dār al-ĥarb is halal for the Muslims and is a legitimate target for the mujahidin. Again this is a matter of consensus so there is no need to elaborate further on this point.

In the encyclopedia of fiqh it states that: "The property of the 'people of war' and their blood is halal for the Muslims and none of that is protected. Muslims have the right to take their lives and their belongings by all available means, because they do the same to us. This is an issue of consensus among the scholars."

In the past, Muslim armies would march into the lands of the disbelievers and would then confiscate their wealth and distribute it according to the rules of shari’ah: If the wealth was taken after fighting, it is ghanīmah and if it was taken without fighting it is fai'.

Now since the modern form of jihad is according to the guerrilla style of warfare rather than the conventional style that existed for the most part of our history, how does this affect the rulings of ghanīmah and fai'?

Today jihad is more clandestine and is performed by underground networks. The question that arises is: Can these networks of mujahidin use clandestine methods to appropriate wealth from the disbelievers in dār alĥarb? And if yes, is it fai’ or ghanīmah or neither? Further, how is it distributed?

To the credit of our early scholars, even these issues have been answered by them and are covered in our books of fiqh. So all praise is due to Allah, we do not have to refer to many of the present day scholars who are either trying to appease the apostate governments of the Muslim world or are trying to appease the Jews and the Christians.

If one would research our classical books of fiqh, one would find that out of the four madhab’s, the Hanafi School has covered such topics the most. This is probably because the Hanafi School was the official state madhab for the longest period in our history compared to other schools. It therefore covers issues relating to jihad in more detail because the foreign policy of the Islamic state was jihad in the path of Allah. I would therefore start by quoting the Hanafi books of fiqh first:

The Hanafi position: Al-Natiqi narrates that Imam Abu Hanifah used to say: "If an individual enters aloneinto dār al-ĥarb and has taken bootyand there are no Muslim soldiers inthat territory then it is not subjectedto the one-fifth rule. That is the caseif they are less than nine men. If theyreach nine then they are considered a"sarīyah" (A combat group)."

So according to Imam Abu Hanifah, if the group is less than nine, what they seize is not ghanīmah and therefore they are not obligated to submit one fifth[6] of it to the Muslim authorities.

In al-Hidāyah by Imam al-Mirghanani it states: "If one or two individuals enter dār al-ĥarb without the permission of the Imam and they take something, then it is not subjected to the one-fifth rule."

Here the author is stating that whatever is taken from the land of war by individuals and not by an army is not subjected to the regular rules of ghanīmah.

Al-Zayghali in his commentary on al-Hidāyah entitled, "Naşb al-rāyah fītakhrīj aĥādīth al-hidāyah" explains the preceding statement by saying:

"This is because ghanīmah is what is taken by force and not by means of theft or embezzlement and the rule of one-fifth only applies to ghanīmah. Now if this individual or pair of individuals enter with the permission of the Imam then there are two opinions. The most famous is that what they seize is subjected to the one-fifth rule because the permission of the Imam means that he is obligated to protect them by reinforcements if they are endangered and thus they have a protection force and (the author of al-Hidāyah states) "If a group who has a force enters and takes something, it is subjected to the one-fifth rule even if they didn’t seek permission from the Imam." This is because it is taken by force so it is considered ghanīmah and the Imam is still obligated to protect them because if he doesn’t then that will weaken the Muslims, unlike if only one or two persons enter then he is not obligated to protect them.""

Al-Zayghali is considering that what is taken is treated as ghanīmah if the individual or group of individuals has a force to protect them. This is not the case today with the mujahidin since there is no Imam or Islamic authority to offer them protection. Similar statements are made in other Hanafi references of fiqh such as "al-Mabşūt" and "Sharĥ al-Saer al-Kabīr" both by Imam al-Sarkhasi.

Therefore the Hanafi School considers that the one-fifth that is taken out from the booty and handed over to the Amir is in exchange of his protection. If this protection doesn’t exist then the individuals or group of individuals are not obligated to pay anything. So if an individual takes wealth from the disbelievers in the land of war and he does not use force but takes it by means of theft or embezzlement, it is not considered ghanīmah according to the Hanafi School. So then what is it?

We find the answer in another Hanafi reference, "al-Jawharah al-Nayerah" by Abu Bakr al-Abbadi who states in his commentary on al-Hidāyah: “If one or two individuals enter dār al-ĥarb without the permission of the Imam and they take something, then it is not subjected to the onefifth rule, because it is not ghanīmah since ghanīmah is what is taken by force and not by theft or embezzlement. But if one or two persons enter with the permission of the Imam then there are two opinions. The famous opinion is that it is divided into five portions, four of which goes to the ones who seized it. The second opinion is that it is not divided into five portions because it was taken by means of theft. The first opinion is the strongest because since the Imam permitted them, then they have taken it under his protection and not by theft." He continues, “If a group who has force enters and takes something, it is subjected to the one-fifth rule even if they didn’t seek permission from the Imam, because the group has strength and therefore what is taken by them is considered ghanīmah. But if they are a group who doesn’t have a protection force and they enter without the permission of the Imam then what they take is not considered ghanīmah because ghanīmah is what is taken by force and these people are similar to thieves because they steal secretly and therefore it is not ghanīmah. Therefore, in this case what each individual seizes is for him and no one has a share in it because it is considered mubāĥ (permitted) just like hunting or wood gathering."

Notice here that Imam al-Abbadi compares this booty to hunting and wood gathering. This is because wild beasts and timber in the forest are not the "rightful property" of anyone. The reasoning behind comparing booty to hunting and wood gathering is because the property which exists in the hands of the disbelievers is not considered to be rightfully theirs in our Islamic shari’ah because of their disbelief and when Islam does give them the right to own it, it is an exception to the rule such as in the case of ahl al-dhimma after they pay jizyah. This is why our scholars say that Allah has called booty as "fai’" which means "to return", so they say that the property of the disbelievers that doesn’t belong to them has "returned" to the believer: its "rightful owner."

In "al-Sear al-Saqhir" (Hanafi) the author states: “If one, two or three men from amongst the Muslims or the ahlal-dhimmah, who have no protecting force, enter into dār al-ĥarb without the permission of the Imam and they take booty and return with it to the land of Islam, then all of what they take is theirs and there is no one-fifth taken from it.”

The situation of Muslims living today in dār al-ĥarb would be similar to the above-mentioned case. The Muslims have no Imam to seek permission from, they have no protecting force, and what they can take would be by means of theft and embezzlement. So according to the rules set by the Hanafi School, the money seized by Muslims who are in dār al-ĥarb can be appropriated in its entirety by themselves.

However, I would like to note that even if a Muslim today is allowed to do that, there are some points that need to be taken into consideration: The Hanafi’s stated that a Muslim is "permitted" to steal money from the disbelievers in dār al-ĥarb but they didn’t state that there is a reward in doing so. They related that it is similar to hunting or wood gathering. In other words it is similar to making a living using other halal methods. However, we as Muslims should seek the wealth of the disbelievers as a form of jihad in the path of Allah. That would necessitate that we spend the money on the cause of jihad and not on ourselves.

We do not want such a fatwa to be misused by Muslims who are not concerned with jihad and are just interested in improving their own lot. The result of wide misuse of such a fatwa would cause authorities to restrict Muslims and view them with suspicion, which would eventually backfire on the ones who would truly want to serve the cause through such a fatwa.

The opinion of the other three schools of thought: Ibn Hamam in "Fatĥ al-Qadīr" says: “The madhab of al-Shafi'i, Malik and the majority of scholars is that what an individual takes by means of theft, it is considered ghanīmah.”

He then says: “But we and Imam Ahmad - according to one of two narrations attributed to him - refuse to call it ghanīmah because ghanīmahis what is taken by force and notthrough theft or embezzlement. Andsince what the thief takes is by meansof deception, then this is consideredas a halal form of sustenance just like wood gathering or hunting.”

Imam al-Sarkhasi narrates that Imam al-Shafi'i said: "Ghanīmah is property that the Muslims seize from the disbelievers by means of overpowering them." Imam al-Shafi'i then says: "And overpowering them includes using force openly or by deceiving them secretly since the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said that ‘war is deception’."

Therefore, according to al-Shafi'i, money that is taken from the disbelievers using clandestine methods should be considered ghanīmah even if the use of force is not involved. In "Tuhfat al-Muhtaj fi sharĥ al-Minhaj" by Ibn Hajar al-Haytami (Shafi'i), he states: "Theft from dār al-ĥarb is ghanīmah."

In "Al-Minhaj" by al-Nawawi (Shafi'i), he states: "Wealth taken from dār alĥarb by force is ghanīmah, so is what is taken by an individual or a group by means of theft."

In "Fatāwā al-Subkī" (Shafi'i) the author narrates the opinion of two of the most prominent Imam’s of the Shafi'i School: Imam al-Ghazali and Imam al-Rafi'i. He says: "Al-Ghazali said that if a Muslim steals money from the disbelievers then the entire amount becomes his property and the one-fifth is not taken from it.
Al-Rafi'i adopts the opinion that the thief owns four-fifths of it just like all money of ghanīmah."

In "Al-Furū'" by Ibn Muflih (Hanbali): "If a group or an individual - even if the individual is a slave - enter into dār al-ĥarb without the permission of the Imam, then their booty is fai'."

Even though the majority opinion among the Hanbali school is that what is taken is ghanīmah, the author above here mentions another opinion and that it is fai’. It means that the entire amount needs to be handed over to the Imam to be distributed according to his discretion.

Imam Ibn Taymiyyah states in "Al- Fatāwā" that if a Muslim enters dār al-ĥarb: "and kidnaps disbelievers ortheir children, or overpowers themin any way, then the souls and thewealth of the disbelievers are halalfor the Muslims."

II. The issue of ribā in dār al-ĥarb

Imam al-Kasani from the Hanafi School says: "If a Muslim or a dhimmī enters into dār al-ĥarb with a covenantand he enters with a ĥarbī ina transaction of ribā or another formof illegal transactions in Islam, that is permitted according to Imam Abu Hanifah and Muhammad."

However, we need to keep in mind that all of the other schools of thought have agreed that taking ribā from the "people of war" in dār al-ĥarb is not permitted for a Muslim.

That is also the opinion of Imam Abu Yusuf from the Hanafi school who states that: "What is not allowed for a Muslim in dār al-Islām is not allowed or him in dār al-ĥarb."[7]

III. In Conclusion

From the previous quotes of our early scholars the following can be deducted:

All of our scholars agree on the permissibility of taking away the wealth of the disbelievers in dār al-ĥarb whether by means of force or by means of theft or deception.
Our scholars differ on how wealth taken by means of theft and deception should be divided. The majority believes it is ghanīmah. So one-fifth of it should be paid to the Amir to be spent on jihad. Alternatively, the Hanafi’s consider it to be a source of income that belongs in its entirety to the ones who seized it. Finally, there is a minority opinion that it is fai' and therefore should be distributed according to the discretion of the Amir.

Implications on our present day work: Every Muslim who lives in dār al-ĥarb should avoid paying any of his wealth to the disbelievers whether it be in the form of taxes, duties, or fines. If a Muslim is allowed to deceive the disbelievers to appropriate their wealth then he is also allowed to deceive them to avoid paying them his wealth.

Even though it is allowed to seize the property of individuals in dār al-ĥarb, we suggest that Muslims avoid targeting citizens of countries where the public opinion is supportive of some of the Muslim causes. We therefore suggest that the following should be targeted:

Government owned property
Banks
Global corporations
Wealth belonging to disbelievers with known animosity towards Muslims

In the case of the United States, both the government and private citizens should be targeted. America and Americans are the Imam’s of kufr in this day and age. The American people who vote for war mongering governments are intent on no good. Anyone who inflicts harm on them in any form is doing a favor to the ummah.

Careful consideration should be given to the risk vs. Benefit (i.e., maslaĥa) of any specific operation. Because of the very negative implications of an operation that is exposed, it is important that the benefits outweigh the risks.

For Muslims who are associated with groups that work for jihad, we recommend that the decision to involve oneself in any illegal activity to acquire money from the disbelievers be taken by the Amir and the shūrā of the jamā'ah. We say this because since there is a liability on the jamā'ah, the decision needs to be made by the jamā'ah. We also recommend that the decision on how to spend the money be left to the Amir and the shūrā. We need to mention however that if the jamā'ah adopt the view that what is seized is considered ghanīmah, then if a percentage less than 80% is to be given to the ones who seized it, that needs to done with the agreement of the participants of the operation because according to the rules of ghanīmah they are entitled to the full 80%. The same is said if the jamā'ah follows the Hanafi opinion.

It is recommended that Muslims who are not associated with groups that work for jihad and who acquire wealth from the disbelievers by illegal means to donate all that money to the cause of jihad unless if they are in need then they can take from it accordingly but not to exceed 80%. Islamic work cannot depend on volunteers. In order to support brothers who are willing to work full-time for Islamic causes, their income can be taken from wealth seized from the disbelievers. This should be one of the categories in which appropriated money is spent. This is especially important with jihad oriented groups because it is the work chosen only by the best of the best and therefore there is only a small pool of human resources that exists. So it is important to have as many brothers as possible devote their time to the work rather than spend their prime time seeking a living and only giving their spare time for the work. They should follow the sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (SAW) and live off of ghanīmah. This is especially important for brothers who are in positions of leadership in their jamā'ah.

Since jihad around the world is in dire need of financial support, we urge our brothers in the West to take it upon themselves to give this issue a priority in their plans. Rather than the Muslims financing their jihad from their own pockets, they should finance it from the pockets of their enemies.

In the end I would like to respond to what some weak Muslims might say that such fatāwā would "tarnish the image of Muslims in the West" and are "not good for the da’wah”.

In response to the claim that such fatāwā would "tarnish the image of Muslims in the West," I would say:
Since when did the West have a good image of Islam and Muslims to start with? The West has always held Islam and Muslims in contempt. Just look at Western literature and to the portrayal of Muslims in the Western media.
The only way for them to have a good image of you is to become like them. Allah says: {The Jews and the Christians will not be pleased with you until you follow their way} [2: 120].
Allah says about His awliyā': {They do not fear the blame of the blamers} [5: 54]. Therefore you should not be concerned about what the disbelievers think of you but you should be concerned about what Allah, His Messenger (SAW), and the believers think of you.
The West has been plundering our wealth for centuries. Now is the time for payback. In Shā’Allāh, the chickens will come home to roost.

In response to the claim that such fatāwā are "not good for da’wah", I say:
The best thing for da’wah is the sword. And such fatāwā are going to support the sword. So eventually it is good for da’wah. When the Messenger of Allah (SAW) was giving da’wah in Makkah for thirteen years, only a few hundred became Muslim. When he made hijrah to Madinah, within ten years, over a hundred thousand became Muslim. So how come his da’wah in Madinah was much more fruitful than his da’wah in Makkah? That was because he was using a superior form of da’wah in Madinah and that is the da’wah of the sword.
Jihad today is farđ 'ayn (individually obligatory). It therefore supersedes da’wah in importance because da’wah is sunnah mu'akkadah (recommended act) or farđ kifāyah (communal obligation) at most. So anything that supports jihad should take precedence over things that support da’wah.

Dear brothers: Jihad heavily relies on money. In Qur’an, the physical jihad is associated with jihad with one's wealth in eight verses. In every verse but one, jihad with wealth preceded the physical jihad. That is because without wealth there can be no jihad. Our enemies have realized that. Therefore they are "following the money trail" and are trying to dry up all the sources of funding "terrorism".

Our jihad cannot depend wholly on donations made by Muslims. The Messenger of Allah (SAW) sent many armies for the sole purpose of raiding caravans of the disbelievers. Not only was jihad financed by booty but also throughout our early history them Islamic treasury itself was mostly dependent on income generated from jihad. A tax called kharaj was placed on land opened by Muslims, enslaved POWs would be sold, and the people of the book paid jizyah. All of these sources were generated through jihad. Zakah and Şadaqah represented only a small portion of the income of the Muslim government.

It is about time that we take serious steps towards securing a strong financial backing for our work rather than depending on donations.

May Allah grant us the high status of the mujahidin and forgive us all.



Footnotes:

[1] Narrated by Ahmad.
[2] Taken from the book, "The explanation of the ĥadīth, 'I was sent before the hour with the sword…'" by Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali.
[3] Narrated by Bukhari.
[4] Al-Jurjani.
[5] Al-Sharĥ al-Kabīr by al-Maqdisi.
[6] Note: When scholars talk about the one-fifth rule it means that the money is classified as ghanīmah.
[7] Note: Some Muslims living in the West today claim that since it is allowed to take interest from the disbelievers then we are allowed to finance our houses through mortgaging. These Muslims have been deceived by Shayţān and the misguided scholars. The Hanafi School which these scholars quote to support their opinion only allows the Muslim to "take" interest and not to "pay" it. The reasoning of the Hanafi's is that taking interest from the disbelievers is taking money that is halal for us to start with since their lives and property are halal for Muslims. So how can we then use such a fatwa to claim that we are allowed to pay them our money?!

(Taken From The INSPIRE Magazine Issue #4 Page 55-60)

[Al-Faruqi]

Walikumassalam

Brother Al Faruqi do you know of any source where one can go through the inspirational talks or written matter of Abdullah Azzam Shaheed RA.

Jazakallah

:salam:

Someone posted a complete archive of his books on a German forum: http://tinyurl.com/4khsedg

:ws:

[akabirofdeoband]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

Brother

Your views are highly contraversial

I strongly ask the muftiyaan e kiraam to comment on this post?

Our ulema of deoband did not support taking the wealth of the kufaar in dar al harb

As for awlaaki, whom you call shaykh,
He is not a mufti at all .
We have giants of ilm in Deoband
You should consult them for such deep issues which demand tahqeeq.

It seems to be that Awlaaki has gone astray.
Jihaad without deep ilm is just terrorism
Just like Tableegh without ilm is jahiliyyah.

Because the Ummah has love for jihaad (rightly) they can be easily emotionally mislead.
Anyone holding a sword and shouting Allahu Akbar(even if it is a shaytaan) is not worthy of being followed without tahqeeq
These type of views lead to a system of anarchy-everyone takes the law into his own hands
kidnaps whomsoever he wills, kills whomsoever he wills, without any tazkiyyahtun nafs.
We see their eyes blaze with anger as they claim to be having ghayrah for the deen
whereas they end up unwittingly becoming the greatest enemies of the deen- and in many cases
end up declaring half the ummah as kuffar including the maturidis and the sufis etc

[Nomadic]

This types of thing should not be disscussed in the forum but rather under a proper scholastic supervision. There are many interpretation of this subject and it is important one is fully aware before talking of such matter in public. I think there was a course on the subject titled 'Demistifying Jihad etc. There has to intelligent discussion in this matter. Often highly emotional outburst do not do justice. People have used relegious war in the past and not necessarily for relegious cause but for worldy greed. We are passars by of this world and should see it as that. In the process we ought to try our best to present the beauty of deen in the most appropriate manner before talking about kital
Allahualam

[ahmad12]

:salam:

I genuinely don't understand some of the article. It says 'their lives and property are halal for us' when talking about taking their wealth but then that must mean he is also saying that you are allowed to fight these oridnary people, which must be wrong? I'm sure I'm misunderstanding but it would be nice to get a clarification

:jazak:

[insufficient]

Brother

Your views are highly contraversial

I strongly ask the muftiyaan e kiraam to comment on this post?

Our ulema of deoband did not support taking the wealth of the kufaar in dar al harb

As for awlaaki, whom you call shaykh,
He is not a mufti at all .
We have giants of ilm in Deoband
You should consult them for such deep issues which demand tahqeeq.

It seems to be that Awlaaki has gone astray.
Jihaad without deep ilm is just terrorism
Just like Tableegh without ilm is jahiliyyah.

Because the Ummah has love for jihaad (rightly) they can be easily emotionally mislead.
Anyone holding a sword and shouting Allahu Akbar(even if it is a shaytaan) is not worthy of being followed without tahqeeq
These type of views lead to a system of anarchy-everyone takes the law into his own hands
kidnaps whomsoever he wills, kills whomsoever he wills, without any tazkiyyahtun nafs.
We see their eyes blaze with anger as they claim to be having ghayrah for the deen
whereas they end up unwittingly becoming the greatest enemies of the deen- and in many cases
end up declaring half the ummah as kuffar including the maturidis and the sufis etc

:salam:

:mash: excellent post.

[Transcendentalist]

half the ummah

You're putting it very lightly. For these deviant khawarij, every one during the last millenium has been a kafir except a minority of Hanbalis and their followers.

[Kashmir_85]

This thread will confuse a lot of younger members on this forum and in general. Are you implying it is right for someone growing up in Birmingham to commit mass acts of financial fraud against the state, and disregard the notion that he might get caught and locked up?

The last time I checked Britain actually looked after its poor, so it would be good if there is some clarification on what countries banks we can rob :) ? Or in other words, What nations Awlaki has made halal for us to commmit evil deeds?

[MujahidAbdullah]

I have mentioned before that I have actually spent a great deal of time with Anwar Al Awlaki when he was here in Colorado - I can say from personal experience and conversations with him that he is salafi inclined. In most matters (by appearance) he follows Shafi fiqh, but he has said to me in private conversations that following a madhab is not necesary. he is also anti tassawuf. A qadri brother once asked him in my pressence if he knew of any sisters who were looking to get married. Awlaki replied "We only marry our daughters off to sunni Muslims", now thats not an open declaration of kufr, but....

He is one of the most dangerous types of salafis, he does not publicly address the issues of taqleed and aqeedah that usually cause division - he only addresses historical and jihad subjects which gets many young, fearvant Muslims to like him and accept the things that he says. I had daily contact with him and he expressed to me on numerous occasions his opposition to tassawuf, deobandis, barlawis and even the habaib of yemen. I once asked him if he had any experience with them in Yemen and he said he trys to stay away from any and all mubtadis.

Now, we are all outraged at the various injustices perpetrated by the kuffar around the around the world on this Ummah, and at times it seems like the Ummah as a whole is apathetic to various struggles going on around the world. It seems like the only support Muslims as a whole give to the people who are fighting fisa biAllah is through their have asked duas. So its easy to want to jump on board with certain elements who are able to "advertise" globaly, but we must remain vigilant and rember that Jihad is a deception, that this world is a deception, and what seems halal to the laymen may actually be haraam.

I also have personal experience with true Mujahideen who truly fight fisa biAllah, and they denounce the tactics proposed by awlaki and his like. Muhamed Al faruqi, i love you for the sake of Allah, and I know you are a good Muslim who wants to earn the pleasure of Allah in the best possible way, but I fear for you Akhi, I fear that your zeal and love for this Deen and your fellow Muslims may lead to people who will misguide you. Just because the US puts these people on watch lists and assaination lists does not mean they are upon haqq, the Kuffar would love nothing more than to get all Muslims to follow the way of the Kharawij so they can find an excuse to stamp out true Islam once for all, remeber, it was partially the kuffar who gave rise to the salafi movement of today. With sabr and Ikhlaas, you can find the true defenders of Islam, the internet may not be where you find them though because if your busy shedding your own blood for the pleasure of Allah, you dont have time to update your facebook page.

[Kashmir_85]

This types of thing should not be disscussed in the forum but rather under a proper scholastic supervision. There are many interpretation of this subject and it is important one is fully aware before talking of such matter in public. I think there was a course on the subject titled 'Demistifying Jihad etc. There has to intelligent discussion in this matter. Often highly emotional outburst do not do justice. People have used relegious war in the past and not necessarily for relegious cause but for worldy greed. We are passars by of this world and should see it as that. In the process we ought to try our best to present the beauty of deen in the most appropriate manner before talking about kital
Allahualam

Lets call out the maulana of the forum, to see if they can provide any guidance on this issue...

WASALAM