Interesting Article - US Muslim woman defies hardliners

[eTeacher]

Interesting Article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3926461.stm

[Shaykhs-Pir Sahib]

as salamu alaykum

my nafs was about to explode with anger after i read this. I managed to calm it down....

[eTeacher]

May we all learn to control our Nafs. It's an eye opening article though. Any one wanna share their thoughts on the article?

[AbuZayd]

Sounds like a biased article.

Anyways, in many parts of the World women do pray in the same hall but at the back of the masjid where they get more reward..........if I remember correctly I recall seeing this in Egypt and Turkey

I don't see what her problem is with praying in the balcony or in a separate section for the women.

What is more worrying in my opinion is the vast majority of masajid in the U.K. invariably run by Indo/Paks that have no facility for a woman to pray or in some case where a woman does need to pray in the mosque they are shoved into a closet somewhere.

Even though I know women should pray at home as there is more reward for them it is clear that some women work for a living or some women may go shopping and so on and they will need a safe place to pray when the time is short or going home to pray is unsuitable.


Wasalam.

[AbuZayd]

btw Akhi, what were your thoughts on the article?

[Abu Usama]

Well you know, she actually broke all those people's salah (in the same row as her) because of her "stance" of praying in the same row as the men. (thats if thier hanafi).

[Raeesa]

Sounds like a biased article.

Anyways, in many parts of the World women do pray in the same hall but at the back of the masjid where they get more reward..........if I remember correctly I recall seeing this in Egypt and Turkey

I don't see what her problem is with praying in the balcony or in a separate section for the women.

What is more worrying in my opinion is the vast majority of masajid in the U.K. invariably run by Indo/Paks that have no facility for a woman to pray or in some case where a woman does need to pray in the mosque they are shoved into a closet somewhere.

Even though I know women should pray at home as there is more reward for them it is clear that some women work for a living or some women may go shopping and so on and they will need a safe place to pray when the time is short or going home to pray is unsuitable.


Wasalam.

I was thinking something similar. I'm not justifying Mrs Nomani's behaviour but sometimes people are drawn to extremes.
While we were on holiday in Dubai, miles away from the hotel and needing a place for Salaah, the men could easily go to the mosque where there are one or even two on a street. The women, subhnallah we prayed at the back of a shop or an area which people made. It was terrible.

Maybe if people created a room for sisters. I know that isn't always possible, but an area for sisters to pray rather than think of them as "invisible" people would not go to such extremes.

So saying that, there are always a few who try and attract attention...

[Mossy]

Oh lord, not her again..

I'm not a big fan of either her or the other "daughters of Hajar", although I do believe that things need to change (better facilities for females etc), there are ways to go about things and this ain't one of them.

There were some interesting articles when altmuslim covered it (warning, alternative muslim website ;)): http://www.altmuslim.com/gender_comments.php?id=P1238_0_2_0_C

Her book was.. intriguing.. Not that great, but intriguing.

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

mossy> that site url is freaky. Meaning at the end ppl start to get weird.

Allahu Alim

[Mossy]

Hey, I gave a warning.. Viewer discretion advised.

[GenN]

Assalm alykum, womesn facilities in masjids need imrovement - but as for this woman, nah i aint saying nothing i'm really truing to control myself here.

[Zaid 'Abdur-Rahman]

:bism:

As-Salaamu 'Alaikum!

Good to know I'm not the only person who's struggling to keep his nafs under control. :evil:

I will be frank, insha'Allah, and honest. I mean no disrespect to this akhti in the article. She is correct, regarding women. Women are treated badly in several mosques in the US, and there is no excuse for it. Things can change, and they shall, insha'Allah.

However, this sister seriously needs some guidance. She strives for the "spirit of islam", and not the "outward symbols". This is so patently ridiculous I am not even going to comment on it, for fear of Allah Ta'Ala. I would advise all of us here to make dua for her, insha'Allah.


Wasalaam,
Zaid

[Muawiyah]

My first reaction was relief at fact that this happened in the US and not, as the url suggested, in South Asia.

I think this woman is merely trying to annoy the community who have disowned her for bearing a b*. And now that she has raised the spectre of Arabs making "hate speech", she'll have the support of the media and the govt.

Our mulhid newspaper DAWN will probably pickup the story and try to make something out of it, like they did the time a woman made "azzan" in the US, "Islam Progressing in America".

[Zaid 'Abdur-Rahman]

:bism:

My first reaction was relief at fact that this happened in the US and not, as the url suggested, in South Asia.

I think this woman is merely trying to annoy the community who have disowned her for bearing a b*. And now that she has raised the spectre of Arabs making "hate speech", she'll have the support of the media and the govt.

.

That is my opinion, as well. (Still keeping my nafs under control...barely, insha'Allah :evil: ).

Still, I don't like the term "b*", as, I believe, it unfairly stigmatizes the child.

Salaam

[Muawiyah]

you're right. wasSalaam

[Zaid 'Abdur-Rahman]

:bism:



Our mulhid newspaper DAWN will probably pickup the story and try to make something out of it, like they did the time a woman made "azzan" in the US, "Islam Progressing in America".


Never heard of that before. What happened?


Wasalaam,
Zaid

[UmmZaid]

Salaam 'Alaikum

There's a difference between saying women's facilities in the masjid need to be improved and marching into the musallah during prayer, throwing a temper tantrum, and refusing to accept hte consensus of the board (all of which A. Nomani did). Now that the board of her masjid has ruled against her, all of a sudden it's a problem with them. I don't know why these articles never mention that pretty much the only people *with* her on this are her relatives....

[hanbali]

:astagh: