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VeiledOne
11-05-2005, 08:15 PM
AUDIBLE AND INAUDIBLE DHIKR

A Balanced View of Dhikre Jahri and Dhikre Khafi by the eminent saint, Hadrat Moulānā Mirzā Mazhar Jāne Jānā (Rahimahullāh)

This was a letter written by Moulānā Mirzā Mazhar Jāne Jānā (Rahimahullāh) in Persian. Hereunder follows the English translation of the letter.

After praising Allāh and sending salutations to Nabī e, it should be remembered that a group of Hanafī jurists have exceeded the limits in rejecting dhikre jahrī (audible dhikr) and issuing the verdict that it is harām. Some scholars of hadīth (muhaddithūn) have proven the permissibility of audible dhikr and have endeavoured to prove that audible dhikr is more virtuous than inaudible dhikr. Both these groups have treaded the path of excess and immoderation. They have not been just in this discussion which requires some clarification and a conclusive decision.

This clarification will be discussed hereunder. It should be borne in mind that dhikr means to remember. This is of three types:

Firstly, to engage in dhikr with the tongue only without engaging the heart. It is clear that this type of dhikr is not taken into consideration and is actually a part of the neglect of dhikr.

The second type of dhikr is dhikr of the heart without any movement of the tongue. In the terminology of the Sūfīs, it is termed “dhikr khafī” - silent dhikr. The basis of all the meditation (murāqabah) of the Sūfīs is this type of dhikr (khafī ). It is practised by all the different groups of the Sūfīs.

This dhikr is of two types:

Firstly, to remember only the being of Allāh and not to ponder over any of His attributes.

Secondly, to ponder over one of Allāh's attributes at the time of engaging in dhikr, together with pondering over His being.

Both these forms are deduced from the verse,

وَاذْكُر رَّبَّكَ فِي نَفْسِكَ تَضَرُّعاً وَخِيفَةً وَدُونَ الْجَهْرِ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ ...

“Remember your Lord in yourself humbly and fearfully, without loudness of voice…” (Sūrah A'rāf: 205)

The second method is to ponder over the being of Allah together with the bounties He has favoured mankind with. This form of dhikr is like searching for a person by looking at the signs he has left behind. In the terminology of the Sharī’ah, such dhikr is referred to as ‘fikr’. This form of dhikr is beneficial for the increase of one’s īmān. The Qur’ān and the hadīth are filled with the merits of this dhikr.

The third form of dhikr is to engage the tongue together with the heart in remembering Allah. This is the most complete form of dhikr. There are two forms of this dhikr:

Firstly, the person engaging in dhikr only makes himself heard without raising his voice. In Sharī’ah, this is called dhikr khafī. It is derived from the verse,

ادْعُواْ رَبَّكُمْ تَضَرُّعًا وَخُفْيَةً

“Remember your Lord in yourself humbly and fearfully." (Sūrah A'rāf, verse 55)

The second form is to engage in audible dhikr whereby the next person can hear you. In Sharī’ah, it is called dhikr jahrī. In certain specific cases, it is more meritorious than the inaudible dhikr. It is not unconditionally more virtuous. This virtue is due to a divine wisdom as in the case of the adhān and the recitation of the Qur'ān during the audible salāhs, the audible dhikr is to awaken those who are asleep.

The virtue of dhikr khafī is that the one engaging in such dhikr is saved from the maladies of ostentation and doing actions for fame. Both these defects prevent the acceptance of good deeds.

The virtue of dhikr khafī over dhikr jahrī has been established from the Qur’ān and hadīth.

In fact, the hadīth, “You are neither calling out to a deaf being or one that is absent” seems to indicate a prohibition of dhikr jahrī. The audible dhikr done in a specific manner as well as meditation has come in vogue in the latter era of the pious ones. They have not been extracted from the Qur’ān or hadīth but the saints have derived these forms from divine inspiration and from the source of divine abundance (mabda' faid) and instituted them. Sharī’ah is silent on the matter, that is, it neither approves of the practice nor rejects it.

There are other types of benefits as well in this form of dhikr and there is no need to reject it. Yes, this much is clear that whatever is established from the Qur’ān and hadīth is more meritorious than what is established from other sources, even if the latter is permissible and beneficial.

When Nabī e instructed Hadrat Álī t to recite the kalimah tayyibah as narrated by Shaddād Ibn Ous t, it meant a moderate loud voice not exceeding any limits as mentioned at the beginning of this very hadīth that Nabī firstly instructed Hadrat Álī t to close the door. Thereafter he told him to engage in audible dhikr. This indicates that on the whole, concealment was intended.

The issue is not with regard to the permissibility or non-permissibility of jahr but with regard to its being more virtuous or not.

To claim that audible dhikr is unconditionally better than inaudible dhikr is to reject the explicit Qur’ānic verses and Shar’ī proofs. Accordingly, this view is incorrect.

Similarly, to unconditionally claim that dhikr khafī is more virtuous, is tantamount to rejecting the texts of Sharī’ah. In a like manner, to reject all forms of dhikr jahrī is going against Islamic texts. The audible dhikr is not permissible in some instances, e.g. to recite audibly in the sirrī salāhs (those that have to be performed inaudibly). To claim that dhikr khafī is sunnah while regarding dhikr khafī to refer to the murāqabah (meditation) as espoused by the Sūfīs or to regard as Sharī’ah-compliant that dhikr jahrī which the Sūfīs have initiated in which the dhikr is excessively loud, is futile, let alone claiming it to be more virtuous.

One should not pay attention to the haughtiness and the discussion raised by some youth on both sides as it is not acceptable.

It is abominable to exceed the limits in any direction. Moderation is the better option. The best speech is the one that is brief and concise.

May peace be upon the one who follows the correct guidance and adopts the path of Nabī e.

(Translated by Moulānā Ebrāhīm Muhammad from “Kashkol” of Muftī Muhammad Shafī Sāheb Rahimahullāh)

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salman
11-05-2005, 08:25 PM
Salamu Alaikum

I asked my Teacher about Audible (loud) dhikr in groups, and he said it is permissible but one should only do it after passing certain requirements (our daily routine consists of silent dhikr).

One thing I am wondering though is that regarding Muraqaba, I disticntly recall hearing and seeing Shaikh Nadim Qurayshi (I was no more then 5 feet from him that day) doing loud dhikr while in Muraqaba. Maybe someone can clarify that?

Wasalam

haqq
11-05-2005, 08:41 PM
One thing I am wondering though is that regarding Muraqaba, I disticntly recall hearing and seeing Shaikh Nadim Qurayshi (I was no more then 5 feet from him that day) doing loud dhikr while in Muraqaba. Maybe someone can clarify that?

Wasalam


:salam:

Do you mean that he was making dhikr softly with his tongue, which was slightly audible?

:salam:

salman
11-05-2005, 09:03 PM
:salam:

Do you mean that he was making dhikr softly with his tongue, which was slightly audible?

:salam:

Salamu Alaikum

No i mean he was saying "Allah, Allah, Allah!" pretty loudly for alittle while then he stopped. For a second i was of the opinion that everyone would start doing it.

I managed to ask a friend of mine, he said that its done sometimes, but not alot.

haqq
11-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Salamu Alaikum

No i mean he was saying "Allah, Allah, Allah!" pretty loudly for alittle while then he stopped. For a second i was of the opinion that everyone would start doing it.

I managed to ask a friend of mine, he said that its done sometimes, but not alot.


:salam:

Maybe it was a voice from his heart coming out. After all, he is a Shaykh of Tassawuf!!

It's best to ask him, as he would be able to explain to you clearly. I think he ecourages questions and is very open about them.

:salam:

Fisabilillah
12-05-2005, 04:07 AM
Salamu Alaikum

No i mean he was saying "Allah, Allah, Allah!" pretty loudly for alittle while then he stopped. For a second i was of the opinion that everyone would start doing it.

I managed to ask a friend of mine, he said that its done sometimes, but not alot.

:salam:
maybe he was doing it outloud so that it would penetrate through the hearts of people and get them to remember Him first , and then they could do the muraqabah the right way and give it their full attention..opposed to have their minds wandering off...if one was sitting in a gathering and ofcourse its a blessed gathering..but its possible for the mind to wander everynow and then no matter how great your attention span may be..but if someone repeats 'Allah Allah Allah' one is bound to become attentive..insha'Allah... as well as the heart..insha'Allah...

perhaps shaykh nadeem was just trying to get everyones attentions or rather the people infront him first so insha'Allah the rest would follow..(or it was loud or not dead silent?..so he didnt want to scold anyone...so he figured insha'Allah this will get the peoples attention?)...or he was just trying to add more barakah to the gathering before an even more "barakahfied" action (muraqabah ina group) was about to take place....it wouldnt hurt to say Allah outloud a few times..not only is it giving him hasanah...it brings mroe barakah into the gathering...he also gets the good deeds of saying it and having others hear and they too get the good deeds of hearing it and insha'Allah becoming attentive....

either way its shaykh nadeem, shaykh of tasawwuf, khulafah of shaykh zulfiqar ahmad-a great shaykh of tasawwuf.....thers bound to be hikmah behind it....wether or not we can understand it or not, or see the hikmah or not...its not up to us to figure out wut the hikmah is...just know that shaykh nadeem probably did it for a reason, or he did it out of habit (perhaps he does this out loud on his owntime right before muraqabah to get his heart to become fully attentive, or as a precaution...or maye he used it in his beginning stages as well, so he thought it would work for those listening....)....or perhaps like some1 said above..maybe its just his heart?..khayr..either way...maybe you should ask...let the thread know insha'Allah (as long as its okay with shaykh nadeem)....
:salam:

salman
12-05-2005, 04:12 AM
:salam:

Maybe it was a voice from his heart coming out. After all, he is a Shaykh of Tassawuf!!

It's best to ask him, as he would be able to explain to you clearly. I think he ecourages questions and is very open about them.

:salam:

hehe, never know - Shaikh Nadeem is the man by the way!


either way its shaykh nadeem, shaykh of tasawwuf, khulafah of shaykh zulfiqar ahmad-a great shaykh of tasawwuf.....thers bound to be hikmah behind it

Dont get me wrong, Im very pro-loud Dhikr. The only reason i brought this up was because i always assumed (as i read in the first post also) that Muraqaba was silent.

Khayr - its all good.

Fisabilillah
12-05-2005, 04:17 AM
Dont get me wrong, Im very pro-loud Dhikr. The only reason i brought this up was because i always assumed (as i read in the first post also) that Muraqaba was silent.

Khayr - its all good.

:salam:
sorry it wasnt intended to sound harsh or anything..just was emphasising in general....muraqabah usually is...perhaps it was the get the attn of the crowd and their hearts issue..tayyib..
:salam:

VeiledOne
12-05-2005, 02:56 PM
u guys have a different muraqaba from the Shadhillis......




Enlighten us about the muraqaba of the shadhilis.

madina9
12-05-2005, 03:10 PM
As-salaamu 'alaikm,

Shaykh Azhar (khalifa of Hazrat Zulfiqar) also did the same thing when we were sitting in muraqaba with him (he visted UK with Hazrat end of last year). In the middle of the muraqaba he started to say "Allah" in an audiable voice. I personally benefitted from that sitting - it allowed me to focus more in my muraqaba. The question never arose in my mind as to why he did this. There's a lot for a beginner to learn on this path, so instead of stopping just follow the mashaykh else you may get left behind......... :o

Found a good article on loud dhikr, if anyone is intersted:
http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00002094.aspx

Was-salaam
Mushtaq

Hamood
12-05-2005, 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by salman


Dont get me wrong, Im very pro-loud Dhikr. The only reason i brought this up was because i always assumed (as i read in the first post also) that Muraqaba was silent.

Khayr - its all good.

Shaykh/Mufti Kamal told me its always silent. He gave a whole lecture on it once..

Ali123
03-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Allah Allah was not from his heart it was from his mouth. The reason I know is because I am authorized (Khilafat) in the Naqshbandi tariqa. We are suppose to during muraqaba say Allah Allah Allah as a reminder so people's attention is back on their hearts saying Allah Allah Allah.