The Aqeedah of the Salaf

[dawud_uk]

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"As for "Ahl Al-Sunnah", anyone who stays within the Ash`ari, Maturidi, and Athari approaches to `aqidah should be considered Ahl Al-Sunnah. Given the severe consequences of taking people out of Paradise and sizzling them over the flame, I refer this back to the experts of each school to tell us what this means." ~ Sidi Musa Furber

Assalaamu alaykum,

ok possibility of getting shot down in flames here being the newby but...

could you tell me which of these aqeedah the salaf followed? what about the prophet Muhammad (saws) which school of aqeedah did he follow?

ok this is a retorical question and no i am not a salafi, just i am tired of when people keep either making tafir on each other or saying they are not part of ahlus sunnah wal jamaat, yes i know the more extreme salafi brothers do the same but that is not an excuse.

and this seems to be exactly what you are doing with this qoute you use in your signature.

i understood a sunni to be someone who refers back to the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (saws), isnt this exactly what the salafi brothers call to as well?

Assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud

[Omar HH]

The original Muslims:

Now you may be wondering who the Muthbitah were since this part of
our history is not well-known. The Muthbitah were the section of scholars
in the first two-three centuries of Islam that stuck closely to the beliefs
taught by the Prophet and conveyed by his top companions (e.g., Abu Bakr,
`Ali, etc.) and avoided the innovations of the Mu`tazilah and similar
Eastern-Western influenced schools of thought.

Reference:
[DT: volume 1: page 16: line(s) 19-20: {explanation of verse 5,
explanation of "al-`Ash`ari"}]

- Guiding Helper

Imam al-Ashari and Imam al-Maturidi were codifiying the beliefs of the Muthibah.

The main difference between the two schools is that Asharis say that all acts are arbitrarily good or bad (which I believe is the real and more correct position) which was the position of many huge Spirituals in our Ummah while the Maturidis believe that reason can find that some of the major sins are bad (like drinking and fornification) without Divine Revelation.

Jazakallahu Khayrun

[abdushakur]

OmarH, i sent u a PM but it didnt go thru bcos ur inbox is full!
sort it out mate!!!! :D

[let me know when theres some s p a c e ]

[Mossy]

Assalaamu alaykum,

ok possibility of getting shot down in flames here being the newby but...

could you tell me which of these aqeedah the salaf followed? what about the prophet Muhammad (saws) which school of aqeedah did he follow?

ok this is a retorical question and no i am not a salafi, just i am tired of when people keep either making tafir on each other or saying they are not part of ahlus sunnah wal jamaat, yes i know the more extreme salafi brothers do the same but that is not an excuse.

and this seems to be exactly what you are doing with this qoute you use in your signature.

i understood a sunni to be someone who refers back to the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (saws), isnt this exactly what the salafi brothers call to as well?

Assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud

I think the others covered the meaning of the quote pretty accurately.

If you look at what the salafis claim to, it is actually the athari aqeedah (ie direct athar from the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions :)). This was the aqeedah of a large section of the Hanbali scholars through the ages - very simple and utilising tafweed rather than tawil for example.

These three "schools" are indeed codifications of the aqeedah of the predecessors, much as the four madhabs are codifications of their fiqh, extrapolated to circumstances not directly covered by the Prophet (pbuh) by way of ijma, qiyas etc.

Similarly, each school of aqeedah has a differential in the minor branches of aqeedah, ie the complex areas that weren't clearly defined - for example, you will see tawil of the sahaba in some instances and tafweed in others, so each has a different method of reconciliation of these.

In the end though, each agrees on the major elements of aqeedah - eg belief in books, angels etc. That's the important thing. When you get into complex theological discussions, that quote is indicating to leave it to the scholars due to the dangers of takfir etc as you have stated.

Makes sense.