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peermohsin
19-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Asalam u ailikum

The below mentioned hadith which is quoted from Sahih BUkhari states that we have to pray only eleven rakats of tareweh, but some other parties are not in favour of this hadith. After all how many rakats we have to pray? The other ahadith which are quoted from tirmidi and other books did not have proper sanad ie their narration is weak. Also if we will see the book of Allama Albani " Fiqh ul Sunnah" he also states that we have to pray only eleven rakats and the other narrations are bidah(innovations). Further SAhih Bukhari is the only book whose status is next to Quran and we must have faith in it .It is said that if two sahih ahadith are qouted against each other and there is one between them which belongs to SAhih Bukhari, We have to obey Bukhari's hadith.

Narrated Abu Salama bin Abdur Rahman RA narrates
that he asked 'Aisha RA"How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than
eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four Rakat ---- let alone their beauty and
length----and then he would pray four ----let alone their beauty and length ----and then he would pray three Rakat
(Witr)." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the Witr?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes
sleep but my heart does not sleep." (SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 or 2030)

Salamat
19-07-2010, 11:50 AM
:salam:
It must be that time of the year again :D
Use the search engine, this matter has been dealt with...repeatedly.

hmdsalahuddin
19-07-2010, 02:50 PM
Walaikum Salam,

1. Brother Read the Hadith carefully quoted by you. It is tahajjud prayer. Allah's Apostle performed tahajjud at Home.

2. Allah's Apostle performed tareweh in masjid.

Narrated 'Urwa: That he was informed by 'Aisha, "Allah's Apostle went out in the middle of the night and prayed in the mosque and some men prayed behind him. In the morning, the people spoke about it and then a large number of them gathered and prayed behind him (on the second night). In the next morning the people again talked about it and on the third night the mosque was full with a large number of people. Allah's Apostle came out and the people prayed behind him. On the fourth night the Mosque was overwhelmed with people and could not accommodate them, but the Prophet came out (only) for the morning prayer. When the morning prayer was finished he recited Tashah-hud and (addressing the people) said, "Amma ba'du, your presence was not hidden from me but I was afraid lest the night prayer (Qiyam) should be enjoined on you and you might not be able to carry it on." So, Allah's Apostle died and the situation remained like that (i.e. people prayed individually). " (SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 3, Book 32, Hadith Number 229)

peermohsin
20-07-2010, 02:04 PM
Asalam u ailikum brother but in the hadith there is written tareweh prayer

hmdsalahuddin
20-07-2010, 02:08 PM
Walaikum salam,

In which hadith word taraweh is written?

woeuntothee
20-07-2010, 02:23 PM
Seriously do a search brother. Your impression is wrong, and the real 'bid'ah' here; to introduce or even think that the Ummah and its Ulema have been in falsehood for so many years until Albani showed up.

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/8or20.htm

hmdsalahuddin
20-07-2010, 02:34 PM
Brother, I never commented on number of rakats, my comments were for the hadith uopn which the thread was started. SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh.

No scholar can be greater than Umar (R.A) to understand the fiqh and sunnah. Taraweh is 20 rakat only.

woeuntothee
20-07-2010, 06:08 PM
Agreed. The article I linked explains the issue in detail, including the fact that Albani was mistaken in his assertion that the hadith on tahajjud refers to tarawih.

Usman
21-07-2010, 03:22 AM
Just like the brothers said, this issue has been dealt with numerous times.

Merely to add another repetition, Tawaweeh is the Plural of Tarviha , whose masdar is Rahatun (to take rest) . Therefore Taraveeh actually refers to sitting or taking little rests after salaah.

As per another hadeeth, Rasoolullah SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said, "The night prayers are in two twos". Therefore, after each set to two twos, ( meaning 4 [2+2] ). Hence, sitting once after 4 rakaat becomes Tarvihatun.

After another set of 4, if we take rest, it becomes Tarveehataan or Tarveehatayn, and not Taraveeh. According to Arabic grammer, Taraveeh has to be more than 3 rests and less than 10. Therefore the count of the word "Taraveeh" actually should be between 12 ( excluding witr ) and 40 ( excluding witr ).

Now those who think that praying 8 is Taraveeh, are dead wrong. Understanding this bitter reality, "Zubair Ali Zai" Kazzab has changed the name of his book "Taraveeh 8 rakaat sunnat hay" to "Ta'daad-e-Rakaat-e-Qiyam-e-Ramadhan ka Tahqeeqi Jaiza".

Therefore, to my dear Ghair Muqallid brothers, either stop using the word Taraveeh, or pray 20.

I remember reading Shaikh Saleh Al-Munajjed Hafidhahullah saying "One would get more reward if he prays 8". When I showed this to some ulama, they smiled at Sheikh Salih's understanding. They said, "Qur'an teaches Wasjud, Waqtarib ( and Prostrate to me and come closer to me ) . Therefore, another reason why coming close to Allah would be to prostrate to Him, rather than torturing yourself into 8 rakaat."

I hope this part helps.

peermohsin
21-07-2010, 05:57 AM
we can not add something of own to the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad SAW. In a hadith of Sahih Muslim there is written that who ever does something apart from sunnah in islam is mardood ie dirty

woeuntothee
21-07-2010, 09:23 AM
lol. Spaz.

Usman
21-07-2010, 12:11 PM
we can not add something of own to the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad SAW. In a hadith of Sahih Muslim there is written that who ever does something apart from sunnah in islam is mardood ie dirty

Indeed, so why are you using the word Taraweeh? Taraweeh word never existed ( well as a prayer at the time of Prophet sallAllahu alaihi wasallam ). Taraweeh word was used first in an athar of Syyidina Ali Radhi Allahu anh that he ordered a person to lead people into 5 Tarveehaat/Taraveeh.

Besides, that same Prophet SallAllahu alaihi wasallam also said : Hold unto my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs.

From this, the salaf and the khalaf have understood that if one of the Khulafa-ir-rashideen start something, it's also going to be considered sunnah, while the jest of Taraweeh is also found during the time of Rasoolullah SallAllahu alaihi wasallam. If you so want to learn more about Taraweeh and it's count, I suggest you do a search or rather read "Ta'daad-e-Taraveeh, ek Tahqeeqi Jaiza" by Sheikh Zahoor AlHussaini . Here's a link : http://ahlehaq.com/ah/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=81&task=view.download&catid=20&cid=637

rqsnnt
22-07-2010, 02:08 AM
..... SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh.

..


As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Almost same hadith is mention in 2 Chapter in Bukhari for Prayer at Night (Tahajjud) and Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). Also hadith mentioning Ramadan or in other months or Ramadan or in any other month which mean same Rakat in Ramadan & out sie of Ramadan. Now how u could understnad SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh? Have u read Chapter name? Ur understnading was SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh but Chapter Name is Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). Plz see bellow



Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 21 :: Hadith 248
Narrated Abu Salma bin 'Abdur Rahman:

I asked 'Aisha, "How is the prayer of Allah's Apostle during the month of Ramadan." She said, "Allah's Apostle never exceeded eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in other months; he used to offer four Rakat-- do not ask me about their beauty and length, then four Rakat, do not ask me about their beauty and length, and then three Rakat." Aisha further said, "I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before offering the Witr prayer?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart remains awake'!"


Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 32 :: Hadith 230
Narrated Abu Salama bin 'Abdur Rahman:

that he asked 'Aisha "How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four Rakat ---- let alone their beauty and length----and then he would pray four ----let alone their beauty and length ----and then he would pray three Rakat (Witr)." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the Witr?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep."



Salam

AbdullahbinAbdullah
22-07-2010, 03:57 AM
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Almost same hadith is mention in 2 Chapter in Bukhari for Prayer at Night (Tahajjud) and Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). Also hadith mentioning Ramadan or in other months or Ramadan or in any other month which mean same Rakat in Ramadan & out sie of Ramadan. Now how u could understnad SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh? Have u read Chapter name? Ur understnading was SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh but Chapter Name is Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). Plz see bellow



Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 21 :: Hadith 248
Narrated Abu Salma bin 'Abdur Rahman:

I asked 'Aisha, "How is the prayer of Allah's Apostle during the month of Ramadan." She said, "Allah's Apostle never exceeded eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in other months; he used to offer four Rakat-- do not ask me about their beauty and length, then four Rakat, do not ask me about their beauty and length, and then three Rakat." Aisha further said, "I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before offering the Witr prayer?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart remains awake'!"


Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 32 :: Hadith 230
Narrated Abu Salama bin 'Abdur Rahman:

that he asked 'Aisha "How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four Rakat ---- let alone their beauty and length----and then he would pray four ----let alone their beauty and length ----and then he would pray three Rakat (Witr)." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the Witr?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep."



Salam

The chapter names are the Fiqh or the understanding of the Muhaddith, not the narration. Look at the chapter headings of Adab-ul-Mufrad, that will tell you a bit more about Imam Bukhari`a Rahimahullahu Ta3ala`s fiqh opinions.

So if you want to claim that you follow the Imam`s fiqh then follow it in every instance.

rqsnnt
22-07-2010, 04:12 AM
The chapter names are the Fiqh or the understanding of the Muhaddith, not the narration. Look at the chapter headings of Adab-ul-Mufrad, that will tell you a bit more about Imam Bukhari`a Rahimahullahu Ta3ala`s fiqh opinions.

So if you want to claim that you follow the Imam`s fiqh then follow it in every instance.

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

I coundn't understand u compeltely what u wanted to say. Plz make me clear


The chapter names are the Fiqh or the understanding of the Muhaddith, not the narration
Need more explanation.

Salam

AbdullahbinAbdullah
22-07-2010, 11:41 AM
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

I coundn't understand u compeltely what u wanted to say. Plz make me clear


Need more explanation.

Salam

Salam,

I mean that the chapter names are not part of the Hadith, it is from the understanding of the Muhaddith. Also, because this is not explained, it is not always clear what the understanding of the Muhaddith was.

Ali al-Hanafi
22-07-2010, 12:21 PM
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Almost same hadith is mention in 2 Chapter in Bukhari for Prayer at Night (Tahajjud) and Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh).

:ws:

Sorry but your explanation is incoherent:


in 2 Chapter in Bukhari for Prayer at Night (Tahajjud) - I agree


Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). - Contradicts above. Should be:

Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Tahajjud in Ramadhan) .

Otherwise you would have to declare that there is no Tahajjud Prayer in Ramadhan and there is no evidence for this.


Also hadith mentioning Ramadan or in other months or Ramadan or in any other month which mean same Rakat in Ramadan & out sie of Ramadan. Now how u could understnad SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh? Have u read Chapter name? Ur understnading was SAHIH BUKHARI vol 3 hadith 230 refers to tahahjjud only not taraweh but Chapter Name is Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh). Plz see bellow


This is the error you're making. Yes it refers to the same Prayer but there are clear differences between Tahajjud and Taraweeh and since the latter is not prayed outside of Ramadhan, these Hadiths must refer to Tahajjud.

Usman
22-07-2010, 12:43 PM
What I don't understand is how come "Praying in the Night of Ramadhan" actually refers to Taraweeh when I clearly explained what Taraweeh means. Why is it so hard to understand?

Secondly, Taraweeh is prayed with Jama'ah , Tahajjud is prayed alone.
Taraweeh is prayed in the Masjid , Tahajjud is prayed at home.
in Taraweeh, Complete Qur'an is recited through out the month. No restrictions in Tahajjud

If you look closely, you will find out that the rajeh number of Rukoo in Qur'an is 540 , divide 540 by 20 and you will get about 27. According to Mufti Ateequr Rahman Shaheed Rahimahullah, when Salaf ( Sahabah ) used to recite Taraweeh, those 540 rukoo's were where they used to recite in each rak'ah, hence now called Rukoo. Here's a small talk you might find useful insha'Allah

http://www.4shared.com/audio/NhdSMIHK/04-bayan-usman.html

rqsnnt
23-07-2010, 02:22 AM
.

:ws:
......................
these Hadiths must refer to Tahajjud.

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu


Sorry but your explanation is incoherent:
This was not my explanation brother!



Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Tahajjud in Ramadhan) .
From where can i get this translation? Please help us to find ur translation from this link (http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/index.html)
U can provide other link for evidence.



Otherwise you would have to declare that there is no Tahajjud Prayer in Ramadhan and there is no evidence for this.

How can i declare where there r many Authentic Hadiths & showing how many rakats at night in Ramadan & out of Ramadan?



This is the error you're making.
U may understand me wrong.


Yes it refers to the same Prayer

Yes we know it's same prayer, U r correct.


but there are clear differences between Tahajjud and Taraweeh
Yes we have seen in hadith that our prophet offered Tahajjud at last part of night after a sleep.


and since the latter is not prayed outside of Ramadhan, these Hadiths must refer to Tahajjud.

Follwing hadiths r showing which was inside of Ramadan or Out side of Ramadan!
Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 21 :: Hadith 248
Narrated Abu Salma bin 'Abdur Rahman:

I asked 'Aisha, "How is the prayer of Allah's Apostle during the month of Ramadan." She said, "Allah's Apostle never exceeded eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in other months; he used to offer four Rakat-- do not ask me about their beauty and length, then four Rakat, do not ask me about their beauty and length, and then three Rakat." Aisha further said, "I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before offering the Witr prayer?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart remains awake'!"


Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 32 :: Hadith 230
Narrated Abu Salama bin 'Abdur Rahman:

that he asked 'Aisha "How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four Rakat ---- let alone their beauty and length----and then he would pray four ----let alone their beauty and length ----and then he would pray three Rakat (Witr)." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the Witr?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep."



Salam

rqsnnt
23-07-2010, 02:38 AM
What I don't understand is how come "Praying in the Night of Ramadhan" actually refers to Taraweeh when I clearly explained what Taraweeh means. Why is it so hard to understand?

Secondly, Taraweeh is prayed with Jama'ah , Tahajjud is prayed alone.
Taraweeh is prayed in the Masjid , Tahajjud is prayed at home.
in Taraweeh, Complete Qur'an is recited through out the month. No restrictions in Tahajjud

If you look closely, you will find out that the rajeh number of Rukoo in Qur'an is 540 , divide 540 by 20 and you will get about 27. According to Mufti Ateequr Rahman Shaheed Rahimahullah, when Salaf ( Sahabah ) used to recite Taraweeh, those 540 rukoo's were where they used to recite in each rak'ah, hence now called Rukoo. Here's a small talk you might find useful insha'Allah

http://www.4shared.com/audio/NhdSMIHK/04-bayan-usman.html

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 21 :: Hadith 248
Narrated Abu Salma bin 'Abdur Rahman:

I asked 'Aisha, "How is the prayer of Allah's Apostle during the month of Ramadan." She said, "Allah's Apostle never exceeded eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in other months; he used to offer four Rakat-- do not ask me about their beauty and length, then four Rakat, do not ask me about their beauty and length, and then three Rakat." Aisha further said, "I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before offering the Witr prayer?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart remains awake'!"


Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 32 :: Hadith 230
Narrated Abu Salama bin 'Abdur Rahman:

that he asked 'Aisha "How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four Rakat ---- let alone their beauty and length----and then he would pray four ----let alone their beauty and length ----and then he would pray three Rakat (Witr)." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the Witr?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep."

If both hadiths r true for Taraweeh then how many rakats including Tahajjud in Ramadan? Plz hadith for Tahajjud

If both hadiths r true for Tahajjud then how many rakats including Taraweeh in Ramadan? Plz hadith for Taraweeh


Salam

Brother A
25-07-2010, 03:53 PM
Assalamu 'alaykum

This is worth a read inshaAllah!

Title: ANSWERING THE CLAIMS THAT THERE ARE NO AUTHENTIC NARRATIONS FOR 20 RAK'ATS TARAWEEH
Author: Dr. Abul Hasan Hussain Ahmed
Pages: 350
File type: PDF
File size: 14.60 MB (14,952kb)

Download now:
http://www.sunnicourses.com/resource...weehebook.html

Wassalaam

peermohsin
12-08-2010, 11:28 AM
Asalam u ailukum
This is response to the senior member "rqsnnt" that there are many sahih ahadith which tell us that tareweh can also be prayed at home as it is sunnah. Besides many other users have written that in the hadith of bukhari there is no use of word tareweh but tahjud. But the most important thing is that Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW has never prayed tahjud in the month of ramdan!, and all the big scholars like "Shakih ul Islam Maulana ibn Tammiyah agrees that the word tahjud used in the hadith is tareweh So what do you say besides the ahadith which are qouted from timidi etc to prove that we can pray more than 8 rakats are all DAFEE ie weak ahadith

imaan4success
12-08-2010, 03:57 PM
Asalam u ailukum
This is response to the senior member "rqsnnt" that there are many sahih ahadith which tell us that tareweh can also be prayed at home as it is sunnah. Besides many other users have written that in the hadith of bukhari there is no use of word tareweh but tahjud. But the most important thing is that Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW has never prayed tahjud in the month of ramdan!, and all the big scholars like "Shakih ul Islam Maulana ibn Tammiyah agrees that the word tahjud used in the hadith is tareweh So what do you say besides the ahadith which are qouted from timidi etc to prove that we can pray more than 8 rakats are all DAFEE ie weak ahadith

All your arguments have already been refuted in the following (heard it all before, can't be bothered dealing with it personally), have a read (and enjoy!):

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4

http://www.tauheed-sunnat.com/sunnat/content/evidence-20-rakahs-taraweeh

http://www.tauheed-sunnat.com/sunnat/content/taraweeh-8-or-20-proof-20-quran-sunnah-and-hadith-0

rqsnnt
13-08-2010, 02:07 AM
All your arguments have already been refuted in the following (heard it all before, can't be bothered dealing with it personally), have a read (and enjoy!):

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4

http://www.tauheed-sunnat.com/sunnat/content/evidence-20-rakahs-taraweeh

http://www.tauheed-sunnat.com/sunnat/content/taraweeh-8-or-20-proof-20-quran-sunnah-and-hadith-0

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4

After reading i could not see any reference that our prophet offered 20 Rakats of tareweh. If u have seen then plz Copy & Past it.
Salam

imaan4success
13-08-2010, 04:11 PM
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4

After reading i could not see any reference that our prophet offered 20 Rakats of tareweh. If u have seen then plz Copy & Past it.
Salam

Wa alaykum assalaam wa rahmatullah,

There are no authentic ahadith which mention the number of raka'aat the Messenger of Allah swt s.a.w prayed for taraweeh. All we have is the ijma' of the Sahabah r.a. upon 20.

You sound as if you haven't actually read what was linked to. If you had, do you not remember the following hadith:

"Hold firmly on to my sunnah and the sunnah of the Khulafa Rashidin (the four rightly-guided caliphs)."(Abu Dawood vol2 pg 635, Tirmidhi vol.2 pg.108, Sunan Darimi vol.1 pg.43 and Ibn Majah pg.5)

That's a command of the Rasulullah s.a.w. and a command obligatory upon you to fulfill. The question to you is, do you reject this commandment? Or are you just simply ignoring because it contradicts what your nafs wants to believe is true?

I suspect you are not really interested in the truth, rather your sole objective is to convince others that your position is the correct one (despite that being contrary to reality). And thus, I don't see much benefit in discussing this issue with you or the other brother for that matter, any further. Should you persist however...well...insha'Allah I don't think it will go well for you.

rqsnnt
16-08-2010, 01:55 AM
Wa alaykum assalaam wa rahmatullah,

There are no authentic ahadith which mention the number of raka'aat the Messenger of Allah swt s.a.w prayed for taraweeh. All we have is the ijma' of the Sahabah r.a. upon 20.

.......


As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu


There are no authentic ahadith which mention the number of raka'aat the Messenger of Allah swt s.a.w prayed for taraweeh.

Thank u for saying the truth.


All we have is the ijma' of the Sahabah r.a. upon 20.
What is the proof on ur claim? What is ijma'?


That's a command of the Rasulullah s.a.w. and a command obligatory upon you to fulfill.

I agree.


The question to you is, do you reject this commandment?
No


Or are you just simply ignoring because it contradicts what your nafs wants to believe is true?

I have a doubt about ijma' of the Sahabah r.a. upon 20 Need solid proof.


Salam

abdulwahhab
16-08-2010, 04:44 AM
:salam:

Ijma' means consensus. We have ijma' that Taraweeh is 20 rakats because when 20 rakats was ordered to be performed during the time of the sahabas :anhum:, NO SAHABA rejected the Taraweeh as 20 rakats.

rqsnnt
16-08-2010, 05:06 AM
:salam:

Ijma' means consensus. We have ijma' that Taraweeh is 20 rakats because when 20 rakats was ordered to be performed during the time of the sahabas :anhum:, NO SAHABA rejected the Taraweeh as 20 rakats.

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

How do u know NO SAHABA rejected the Taraweeh as 20 rakats? R they together at that time?

Salam

abdulwahhab
16-08-2010, 09:15 PM
:salam:

What do you mean? None of the Sahabas :anhum: took issue when 20 rakats of Taraweeh were performed. If there was no basis for 20 rakats, we would have at least ONE report from a Sahaba who would have taken it as an issue but we have none. So, in light of this, it is evident that Taraweeh was 20 rakats but Tahajjud was 8, even during Ramadhan.