Does age really matter?

[Strive4Allah]

Do you think age is important?

[seven]

in what context?

[Strive4Allah]

Look up

[muslim786]

Yes age does matter to a certain extent, [deleted]

(Note: It is an open question, not an oppurtunity to launch a personal attack. If you have problems with the content on a post discuss it there inshallah)

[seven]

well wisdom does come with age.

also, a person who is unwilling to listen to youngsters, is a sign of arrogance and pride

[Raeesa]

Age and knowledge are too seperate things
Age and wisdom are related...

Maybe u said something on the boards which reflected your knowledge but maybe not so much your wisdom allahu aalim...

Then again, there were teenage companions of the prophet (peace be upon him) who were given a lot of responsibilty, such as during the time of the khilafat of Hazrat Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) Hazrat Usaamah (may Allah be pleased with him) led the expedition to Syria and he was only 17... and so what needs to be respected/debated/argued is the things your talking about and not your age.

[muslim786]

Age and knowledge are too seperate things
Age and wisdom are related...

Maybe u said something on the boards which reflected your knowledge but maybe not so much your wisdom allahu aalim...

Then again, there were teenage companions of the prophet (peace be upon him) who were given a lot of responsibilty, such as during the time of the khilafat of Hazrat Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) Hazrat Usaamah (may Allah be pleased with him) led the expedition to Syria and he was only 17... and so what needs to be respected/debated/argued is the things your talking about and not your age.

I agree, but people should keep their mouths shut when they have little knowledge about an issue.

[Strive4Allah]

Usaamah wa my age
Xactly sis raeesa.I agree with you 100.5 %
Yep we need ten tinnes of wisdom with one tonne of knowledge.U cant just say to someone go learn your deen.A person may have the knwledge but not wisdoM.And What I post about-no body can assume that I dont know anything-or I know soo much.Its the wisdom Lak n i accept it.
But I dont hink its got anything to with age

[Strive4Allah]

Yes ppl should keep their mouths shut when they have lil knowledge bout some thing thats got nothing to o with age though

[Live for Islam]

Yes age does matter to a certain extent, and in your case Live4Allah it most certainly does. It is quite clear you do not know much about deen, especially due to the comments you have made on another thread.
I suggest you learn something about certain issues before you start mouthing off.

I don't think that's very nice to say to someone. Insha-Allah, if we could all consider our words carefully before posting. Jazakallahu khair.

[Strive4Allah]

well wisdom does come with age.

also, a person who is unwilling to listen to youngsters, is a sign of arrogance and pride
Agree with you. I mean those who are say older than me they may not have that much kowledge but they have the wisdom
Too true it is a sign of takabbur.
Listen here sis raeesa. Huwa takabburun jiddan!!!

[muslim786]

Knowledge usually comes with age, btw I am not saying all young people are not knowledgable but in a lot of cases they are and therefore in such cases it is best for them not to be involved.

[Strive4Allah]

Sis Live for islam. Uhibbuki.
I am not angry or anything becoz it was said to me its just that we should have a bit of saleeqa.

[muslim786]

I never swore or made any rude remarks, I was just pointing out her mistake and apologise if did seem a bit harsh, but you have to be harsh to be nice.

[Raeesa]

Hmmm 99% of the time the way u respond to something, will have consequential impacts on what kind of response you get back

I havent read the thread i think this is being referred to....

However bro muslim 786 if you found that sis live 4 Allah is lacking then advise her gently, its v rarely that someone listens when you tell them to shut up.

[Strive4Allah]

MUlim786 can u plz tell me which thread oyu are reffering to so i can see where am going wrong jazakallah
Look there is one thing if we care for our selves and want to have islah where we lack we have to listne to rude good and bad comments everyting.that is when we really care about our selves.
Laa tathreeba alaik akhi

[muslim786]

I am sorry that I have offended you but the problem is the kind of comments you have made are the reason why certain sunni muslims do not like deoband, and it is not doing the Madarassa there any good, Brother Genn was speaking against me but he didn't start ranting on about blanket bidahs and shirk etc, please refrain uses such words lightly.

[Strive4Allah]

No need to sorry bro.Its not a problem to me at all.Yes I get your point.
But what sis live4islam said was right.

[Live for Islam]

However bro muslim 786 if you found that sis live 4 islam is lacking then advise her gently, its v rarely that someone listens when you tell them to shut up.

Live4Allah**

(Why does everyone keep getting my name mixed up with Live4Allah, lol)

[Raeesa]

lol oops :p my apoligies i just saw it as well... lemme go back and edit it

[Strive4Allah]

Lol

[Strive4Allah]

Its not only me who ppl bang at its anyone whos young...
Raeeesa its nothing but Takabburing katheeran jiddan

[UmmIbrahimIsa]

assalamu alaikum wr wb

i dont think its anything personal, i think its form of habit. Allahu Alim.
But, whenever you read something really good in deen and something very insipiring you say masha'Allah, you are even more excited or happy that it was written by a very young person with lots of knowledge and you are truly happy for that person and you continue to make dua'ah for them that they continue to be guided and read and learn more....
You think wow masha'Allah someone that young wrote that, that's amazing. I hope I can accomplish something like that, masha'Allah...

yet... when it's something not so great, like its a misunderstanding or misinterpretation, and you ask the person their age and they say im young, very young. You think 'go figure, that figures' it's cuz of their age that they are that way. They dont take them seriously because of that. I think its just form of habit, because you live in a society that says to hang out with ppl your own age. You are not told to be with ppl of all ages, young and old, it's considered weird and you're considered strange if you hang out with ppl ten years older than you or ten years younger than you. In islam we do not have that kind of boundary of where it's not normal to be that way, yet in our halaqohs we find it no problem with talking about your problems or relating with one another regardless of your age it doesnt matter it helps especially if you've grown up in this society, and you know the pressures and stresses that they are going through and that you can help them and relate and say 'i know, and understand how you feel, i remember feeling like that.' for example my family grew up in Hyderabad, India, my mom did all the right things, she didnt question anything in regards to deen or anything, just did as she was told. As if she wasn't allowed to speak her mind, she just did it. This society we are told its ok for us to ask questions and thats how we'll learn. So our generation or meaning my generation of the ppl that grew up here after our parents came here, we ask tons of stuff just so we can get to where we want to go, and we're not afraid of asking whats the proof of that and where can you find that proof? Alhamdulillah we have that courage to ask the difference between cultural things and islamic things and trying not to mix the two and getting rid of the superstitions within it.

Age doesnt really matter though I think ppl would get insulted if they were told something that they should have figured out for themselves, and especially if the person that told them is years younger than them. They'll feel insulted and also feel as if 'their way doesnt matter or that they dont know better'

Just think, what if you were praying and standing up in salat and as you finished your prayers, a little kid meaning little like 4 years old came up to you and said you made your sujud wrong, or that you were looking up in your salat and said your prayer is invalid... You would get insulted, mad as to why this child was looking at you, and despite the child's intention to give you naseeha to help you or perhaps ask of curiosity as to why since you are years older than them that you do not know this or know better that they ask you this, and you are sitting here thinking ,'the nerve of that child, who does he/she think they are? telling me not to look up in salat, i wasnt looking up.' then you find out that child is so and so age and you're like subhanAllah thats truly amazing or that's bad, disrespectful that they didnt know better to say what's good or keep quiet.

I guess it depends on the person and the situation and its different cases and different reactions. Insha'Allah I hope that we all remember Allah when we come to these situations and know that He's there and watching us and the angels on our sides are recording every letter, word that we say and everything that we are doing, our body parts are all being recorded down and written down.
So next time you come across something of where someone does something whether good or bad, the 1st thought that will come to your head, how old are you? you're what? instead say masha'Allah, alhamdulillah. May Allah reward you and help you and guide you and continue to increase your knowledge and you say i hope Allah too will continue to help me Remember Him and have mercy on us for thinking some things or doing some things that are not really helpful...

p.s. dont abuse the tongue as the tongue can benefit us with the remembrance of Allah swt and increase our knowledge with lots of dua'ah, prayers and dhikr... or it can harm us by falling into the forbidden things and saying things you regret...as it hurts..and its hard to take back once you've been stung. but it'll heal eventually.. like the cuts we've had, we heal eventually despite we are in pain when it happens... so insha'Allah i hope
and pray that this message gets across and that I apologize if I have offended anyone in anyway and I ask you to forgive me if I had, and it was not intentional and that I ask you all to pray for me as well as praying for all our muslim bros/srs in this world that they continue to remember Allah...
ameen.

Allah knows Best.

[Strive4Allah]

Jazakallah umme ibhi what gets me so angry is when they bring age in the middle.
Khair jazakallah wassalam

[Raeesa]

mashallah i agreed with everyhtin u said sis
especially:


I guess it depends on the person and the situation and its different cases and different reactions. Insha'Allah I hope that we all remember Allah when we come to these situations and know that He's there and watching us and the angels on our sides are recording every letter, word that we say and everything that we are doing, our body parts are all being recorded down and written down.

[Strive4Allah]

Sis umme ibhi is one wise person mashallah.not meaning that the resst arent

[muslim786]

Assalamulikum WR WB,

I was wondering if a poll facility could be arranged on this forum as it would be nice to see the ages of people on here without anyone needing to reveal it explicitly.

[Strive4Allah]

Like how.Something like whos 17-18-19 e.t.c but not knowing who is how old? sorry if am wrong

[muslim786]

you know like age categories and u can pick and then a funky graph comes up to show the various proportions. it would be nice to know what sort of age group this forum attracts.

[Strive4Allah]

Oh right nice idea. U can put it in the coments suggestions at the bot if u wish

[Saleel]

:salam:

A "how old are you?" thread was started earlier today I believe, but it was off topic for this forum and potentially a source of fitnah, hence it was deleted. Feel free to make this sort of the thread in the gender only rooms, though.

These are the arrangements on SF :insh:. Highly moderated in the mixed forums, heavily relaxed in the gender-only rooms :)

:salam:

[seven]

heavily relaxed in the gender-only rooms :)

:salam:
:evil: :cheesygri

[Sadiq]

One thing people say is 'Time will tell', a true fact.

Sometimes its 'wiser' to watch, and listen then to talk and walk. We, incl myself have become into this habit of 'jumping' into conversations, forums without knowing anything or very limited knowledge of that topic.

We should be careful,as we all will be judged upon what we said and did. As many ulama of the past refused to give talks, (who wrote many books), because of the fear of what they may say and direct people to do.

We are examples, and our actions are 'islam' to any person/westener, as many westerners have become obssesed with many things,they not all, have time to read the quran or hadith, they judge islam based on those who follow it, which is us!

let us becareful, what we say, do, act, show,direct, and 'post'.

my small 2 cents.

[Strive4Allah]

One thing people say is 'Time will tell', a true fact.

Sometimes its 'wiser' to watch, and listen then to talk and walk. We, incl myself have become into this habit of 'jumping' into conversations, forums without knowing anything or very limited knowledge of that topic.

We should be careful,as we all will be judged upon what we said and did. As many ulama of the past refused to give talks, (who wrote many books), because of the fear of what they may say and direct people to do.

We are examples, and our actions are 'islam' to any person/westener, as many westerners have become obssesed with many things,they not all, have time to read the quran or hadith, they judge islam based on those who follow it, which is us!

let us becareful, what we say, do, act, show,direct, and 'post'.

my small 2 cents.


Jazakallah for this brother.Jazakallahu khairan...Soo true..