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Omar HH
29-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Imam Zaid Shakir says to not envy someone for anything Allah (SWT) has given them. Instead ask Allah (SWT) to give them more. If they have intellect say "Oh Allah (SWT) give them more intellect" or if they have a nice car say "Oh Allah (SWT) give them a better car". And this is one of the greatest cures for envy because we do not have time for envy.

What about non-Muslims? What if a Muslim see's a non-Muslim with intellect and starts having a small trickle of envy in the heart, should he say "Oh Allah (SWT) grant this Kaffir more intellect."?

Jazakallah wa Khayrun

seven
29-07-2004, 09:03 PM
we should say "Oh Allah, grant this kaafir the intellect to bring imaan upon you" :)

Mossy
29-07-2004, 09:31 PM
Nah, iman isn't dependent on aql..

seven
29-07-2004, 09:48 PM
didn't ebrahim alayhis salaam bring imaan on Allah thru aql?

UmmIbrahimIsa
30-07-2004, 03:21 AM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

Yes he can make dua'ah that this person find islam, or become more smart, and by becoming more smart one can find islam.

you can continue to make dua'ah for that person, until they die.. then after that you cant make dua'h for them, but you can make it as long as they are alive..and that they dont hurt you for praying for them.

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 07:27 AM
Nah, iman isn't dependent on aql..
I think I agree with bro mossy.
It is whom ALLAH GIVES HIDAYAT TO?Yes?no?

seven
30-07-2004, 09:55 AM
It is whom ALLAH GIVES HIDAYAT TO?Yes?no?
there's no doubt in that.

however there are usually means through which Allah gives hidaayah. Aql being one of them.

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 11:14 AM
there's no doubt in that.

however there are usually means through which Allah gives hidaayah. Aql being one of them.
Like? I rally dont get you.Sorry about this but I want to know can u plz eplain y akl.

seven
30-07-2004, 12:02 PM
eg... the way ebrahim alayhis salaam used his aql to recognise his Lord

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 12:07 PM
I still dont get you can you plz tell me in detail how ibrahim as used his aql

seven
30-07-2004, 01:15 PM
plz do some research. thx

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 01:18 PM
Shukran..
Just wondering how do I do research ona.Link or anyhting?
Ibhraheem as was a born..muslim...
Khair its ok Ill try find out the akl thing

Raeesa
30-07-2004, 01:23 PM
I think seven means like look around u
u seen the sun, and the moon and the stars and u realise that even the sun goes away at night even the moon goes away in the day...
or look at the environment, everything is perfect
the human body is amazingly perfect in every way...
so u using yr aql to realise that there has to be a creator...

Yeah i have to agree with bro seven here, make duaa that Allah grants them intellect to help find the truth of Islam inshallah.

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 01:26 PM
Oh right i misunderstood him i thought he were tellin me to do research yep any person whos wise and uses his akal cant deny that there is allah behind all this.
Bro seven am soory and sis raeesa jazakillahu anni wa anil islami kulla khair

Sadiq
30-07-2004, 02:57 PM
Nah, iman isn't dependent on aql..

Agreeing with brother mossy, Iman is not based or dependent on aql. Aql is a means to understand things. As one who listens to track one of 'Coherence of Islam', by Shaykh Nuh, will relize, evidence and intellect is something as a form of tool, but it should be rather 'belief' in the heart, without the need to find evidence, or proofs.

Below is some extracts from Discourses on Islamic Way of Life, by Mufti Taqi Uthmani (http://sadiqweb.com/blog/index.php?cat=4) that may help in understanding the limit of intellect, and the need to rely on divine revelation, via Quran and Hadith.

Is intellect the last standard?

In a secular system of government Intellect, Observation and Experience have been taken has the final standard to reply upon. Can this so called standard based on intellect, observation and experience alone prove sufficient and effective for human life?

Sources of Knowledge

In order to find out an answer to this question we must relize the truth that
no system of life can work successfully, unless it has at its back a treasure of knowledge to propel it onwards. It should also be noted at this stage that
Almighty Allah has bestowed on man certain sources of knowledge, each source possessing a specific jurisdiction but beyond this jurisdiction it becomes in-effective.

The Jurisdiction of the Five Senses

Man is able to acquire knowledge about many things by using his eyesight, by
tasting things with the tongue, by smelling things with the nose, by hearing
words with the ears and by touching objects with his hands. However, each of these sources of knowledge which fall within the jurisdiction of observation
has a limit of its own beyond which it can do nothing. For example, the eye can see, but it cannot hear. If there is a man who desires to use each of these organs for a function for which it has not been created by Allah, that man shall be taken by the world to be a fool.

The second source of knowledge is Intellect.

The working limits of these five senses reach a boundary which they cannot
cross. Almighty Allah has bestowed upon us another source of knowledge:
Intellect, helps man acquire knowledge where they five senses become ineffective.

The Jurisdiction of the Intellect.

It should however, be noted that just as Jurisdiction of the five senses is limited in the same way, the jurisdiction of the Intellect is also limited. The Intellect helps man to a certain limit, then leaves him helpless.

The third source of knowledge is Divine Revelation

Almighty Allah has granted man another source of knowledge to help and guide him; Divine Revelation, provision of knowledge to man by heavenly revelation. Thus to try to use the Intellect in the presence of Divine Revelation, is just like trying to see things by the ears instead of by the eyes and so on so forth. It does not mean that Intellect is a useless faculty. No, it is highly serviceable, rather indispensable to man but within its jurisdiction and not beyond it.

[Discourses on Islamic Way of Life (Vol: 1) Pages: 29, 30, 31]

Hope this helps.

Strive4Allah
30-07-2004, 03:03 PM
Agree with you.
Thats why I was just wondering and had to go over the ibraheem as story again.

Saleel
01-08-2004, 07:19 PM
:salam:

I may be incorrect, but I understood the question at its core to relate to the permissibility of making dua for non-muslims.

The following may help :insh::


Praying for Non-Muslims: Living & Dead

Walaikum assalam,

There is a useful summary of the discussions of the fuqaha on this point in two entries of al-Mawsu`a al-Fiqhiyya (Kuwait):

“Seeking forgiveness for a non-Muslim. The fuqaha are agreed that seeking forgiveness for a non-Muslim is interdicted… However, if one seeks forgiveness for a non-Muslim hoping that they become Muslim and thus be forgiven, the Hanafi scholars have permitted it…

Praying for mercy for a non-Muslim. Nawawi stated in his al-Adhkar that… it is permitted to pray for guidance for non-Muslims, good health and well-being (`afiya), and the like of it, because of the hadith of Anas (Allah be pleased with him) that, “The Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) asked for water and a Jew gave him some, so the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to him, ‘May Allah make you beautiful,’ so the man did not see grey hair till he died.” As for after their death, it is impermissible (haram) to make dua for forgiveness and the like for a non-Muslim, for Allah Most High said, “It is not for the Prophet and those who believe to pray for the forgiveness of idolators even though they may be near of kin after it has become clear that they are people of hell-fire.” [Qur’an, 9: 113] There are hadiths that indicate this, and there is scholarly consensus (ijma`) on this matter.” [al-Mawsu`a al-Fiqhiyya, Kuwait]

And Allah knows best.

Faraz Rabbani.

http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00000694.aspx


What duaa's (prayers) I am permitted to make for my non-muslim family and friends(living and dead)?

You may make Du’aa of Hidaayat (divine guidance) for your non-Muslim living relatives.

However, you may not make Du’aa for your deceased non-Muslim relatives. This is the command of Allah.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Muhammad Kadwa
FATWA DEPT.

CHECKED AND APPROVED: Mufti Ebrahim Desai

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=8198
Wallahu Alam.

:salam: