Omar HH
01-06-2005, 07:36 AM
From the Guiding Helper Lessons:
<aq_hasani> Let us clarify for the other people present today what we are talking
+about...
> Tahir is referring to a hadith in Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti's collection-
+which is a Hadith Qudsi which states ...
<aq_hasani> I was a hidden treasure and I loved that I be known ...
<aq_hasani> [That is Allah loved that He be known.]
<aq_hasani> Therefore, I created creation and made by Myself known to them ...
<aq_hasani> So through Me they knew Me.
<aq_hasani> First clarification: There is a difference between needing something and
+liking something.
<aq_hasani> Secondly, in reality the reason why we were created was for ourselves because
+Allah is the Generous.
<aq_hasani> Allah's liked that His creation would become `arifin of Him since He is better
+than anything else.
<aq_hasani> All people in the hereafter will be `arifin of Allah regardless of whether
+they are in Heaven or Hell ... but, of different grades ...
<aq_hasani> Allah has given everybody an equal chance with the ability to choose
+actions (See Previous Answers Question about Predestination vs. Freewill)...
<aq_hasani> [This is a side clarifying note before we continue with your question.]
<aq_hasani> However, most people make the wrong choices and end up in Hell because of
+these choices.
<aq_hasani> If they make more right choices than those in Hell (e.g., they believe in
+Allah instead of denying Him), they have a higher grade of `irfaan.
<aq_hasani> They will be Paradise and be able to see His Countenance and understand many
+things which confuse them now ...
<aq_hasani> This group is the regular believers (of which there will be a large number -
+although not as large as those in Hell).
<aq_hasani> Then, there are the `arifin of the world that understood the Hadith Qudsi we
+are speaking about ...
<aq_hasani> These people understand that Allah does not need humans/jinn, but He has
+given them the opportunity to get the Ultimate Prize ...
<aq_hasani> just by making the right choices ...
<aq_hasani> It is these people who will reap the benefits of Allah's creating of the
+Universe in all of their states (in the world, barzakh, and hereafter) ...
<aq_hasani> The benefit of knowing Allah returns to the slave immensely - he is the one
+who truly is in need of this and benefits ...
<aq_hasani> As for Allah, He is pleased with the `arifin since they unlike the others
+understood the matter from the original base and followed the original
+ruling.
<aq_hasani> Unlike the other two groups - one of whom gave too much importance to the
+world and thus committed kufr to be condemned to Hell. The other group
+(good believers) only saw the reward of the Hereafter built upon correct
+beliefs and actions ...
<aq_hasani> And thus they performed good works and believed the correct things to obtain
+this reward - but, in doing this, they neglected the original base ruling ...
+and for such Allah has deprived them of the ultimate ranks held by the
+Prophets and the `Arifin.
<aq_hasani> Thus, this answers your first question.
<aq_hasani> Allah did not need to create us. He created us to give us the chance to get
+the Ultimate Prize, which is knowledge of Him and all the fringe benefits
+which are associated with this (e.g., eternal, peace, security, and happiness).
> Second clarification ...
> The emotions of Allah narrated in the primary texts have actions associated
+with them ...
> Actions of Allah are time-bound.
> They can and do experience change.
> Thus, Allah's creating creation and making Himself known to them (via
+physical or non-sensory/spiritual phenomena) ...
> are actions.
<hashim_maghribi> Archer, salaam, you may listen for now.
<archer> assalamu alaykum
<aq_hasani> Allah has three aspects we know about. Two timeless aspects and one time
+...
<aq_hasani> time-bound aspect.
<aq_hasani> His Entity and His attributes are time-less and do not experience change...
<aq_hasani> His actions are brought about through time and space moment by moment ...
<aq_hasani> Let us clarify for the other people present today what we are talking
+about...
> Tahir is referring to a hadith in Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti's collection-
+which is a Hadith Qudsi which states ...
<aq_hasani> I was a hidden treasure and I loved that I be known ...
<aq_hasani> [That is Allah loved that He be known.]
<aq_hasani> Therefore, I created creation and made by Myself known to them ...
<aq_hasani> So through Me they knew Me.
<aq_hasani> First clarification: There is a difference between needing something and
+liking something.
<aq_hasani> Secondly, in reality the reason why we were created was for ourselves because
+Allah is the Generous.
<aq_hasani> Allah's liked that His creation would become `arifin of Him since He is better
+than anything else.
<aq_hasani> All people in the hereafter will be `arifin of Allah regardless of whether
+they are in Heaven or Hell ... but, of different grades ...
<aq_hasani> Allah has given everybody an equal chance with the ability to choose
+actions (See Previous Answers Question about Predestination vs. Freewill)...
<aq_hasani> [This is a side clarifying note before we continue with your question.]
<aq_hasani> However, most people make the wrong choices and end up in Hell because of
+these choices.
<aq_hasani> If they make more right choices than those in Hell (e.g., they believe in
+Allah instead of denying Him), they have a higher grade of `irfaan.
<aq_hasani> They will be Paradise and be able to see His Countenance and understand many
+things which confuse them now ...
<aq_hasani> This group is the regular believers (of which there will be a large number -
+although not as large as those in Hell).
<aq_hasani> Then, there are the `arifin of the world that understood the Hadith Qudsi we
+are speaking about ...
<aq_hasani> These people understand that Allah does not need humans/jinn, but He has
+given them the opportunity to get the Ultimate Prize ...
<aq_hasani> just by making the right choices ...
<aq_hasani> It is these people who will reap the benefits of Allah's creating of the
+Universe in all of their states (in the world, barzakh, and hereafter) ...
<aq_hasani> The benefit of knowing Allah returns to the slave immensely - he is the one
+who truly is in need of this and benefits ...
<aq_hasani> As for Allah, He is pleased with the `arifin since they unlike the others
+understood the matter from the original base and followed the original
+ruling.
<aq_hasani> Unlike the other two groups - one of whom gave too much importance to the
+world and thus committed kufr to be condemned to Hell. The other group
+(good believers) only saw the reward of the Hereafter built upon correct
+beliefs and actions ...
<aq_hasani> And thus they performed good works and believed the correct things to obtain
+this reward - but, in doing this, they neglected the original base ruling ...
+and for such Allah has deprived them of the ultimate ranks held by the
+Prophets and the `Arifin.
<aq_hasani> Thus, this answers your first question.
<aq_hasani> Allah did not need to create us. He created us to give us the chance to get
+the Ultimate Prize, which is knowledge of Him and all the fringe benefits
+which are associated with this (e.g., eternal, peace, security, and happiness).
> Second clarification ...
> The emotions of Allah narrated in the primary texts have actions associated
+with them ...
> Actions of Allah are time-bound.
> They can and do experience change.
> Thus, Allah's creating creation and making Himself known to them (via
+physical or non-sensory/spiritual phenomena) ...
> are actions.
<hashim_maghribi> Archer, salaam, you may listen for now.
<archer> assalamu alaykum
<aq_hasani> Allah has three aspects we know about. Two timeless aspects and one time
+...
<aq_hasani> time-bound aspect.
<aq_hasani> His Entity and His attributes are time-less and do not experience change...
<aq_hasani> His actions are brought about through time and space moment by moment ...