How to do the Islamization of Corporate Dressing Etiquette in the Western world ?

[curious-traveller]

In the Western universities nowdays we can find many Muslims students coming from Muslim lands. In the campus, they enjoy freedom in many aspects of life including the dresscode. They find the professors and the classmates quite friendly showing a sense of appreciation of cultural diversity.

As a result, these Muslim students are tempted to think that the world outside the university is also as green as the campus-world.

However, when they step into the job-market of the western world, they face the ugly reality of the corporate dresscode which has some un-Islamic elements. The following extract is taken from one of the top ten engineering universities in the USA where the dresscode is explicitly defined.

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The standard job interviewing attire for men is a conservative dark navy or gray two-piece business suit (of natural fibers, such as wool, if possible), a white long-sleeved button-down dress shirt, a conservative silk tie (that matches the colors in your suit), and nicely polished dress shoes.

If you do not own a suit, or the company is a bit more informal, then you should wear a conservative sports coat (no plaids or wild patterns and preferably a dark color), nicely pressed dress slacks, a white long-sleeved button-down shirt, a conservative silk tie, and nicely polished dress shoes
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This tie is quite a bombshell ! It resembles a Cross if the two shoulders are considered as the horizontal plank of the Cross.

Another irritating issue is the tucked-in shirt which lets the wearer reveal his hip-shape.

What should the newly graduated Muslim students do to get access into the western corporate world ? They have the following five options.

1. While in Rome , behave like Romans. Let's get assimilated. Money comes first ,then the soul !!

2. Get into a flight and return to the one of those Muslim lands where there is a higher possiblitiy of avoiding the Western dress code. Although, the prospect is not so bright as can be seen in the following thread.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?64694-Professions-suited-to-Practising-Muslims&p=536717

3. Modify the Western dresscode in such a way that the corporate managers do not feel irritated.

4. get a job in a ****py company where other Western professionals do not want to work.

4. Start your own business and then you dictate the rules within your office !!!

For many Muslim professionals , the option 3 might be the preferrable to the rest. However, this option 3 is quite a tricky one. How to do it intelligently ?

Any suggestion , please ?

[curious-traveller]

I didn't like what you have stated. Ofcourse what you have said holds water but there is no need to islamisize. We are people of straight path and do not play trekcs on other. The exisitng dress can be modified to suite islamic ethics. Deen of islam has not come to replace any culture but to perfect it. I wear tie not because it remsembles cross because it is the norm and inshallah never will I leave this deen and never will I cower to the idelogy of kuffur. Islam do not ask people to be defensive but inculcates wisdom in one aciton and speech.
Allahualam

By "Islamization " , I wanted to mean modification or purification , not eradication !!
I have done a web search and found that the origin of the tie is related to a victory over the Ottoman empire as shown in this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necktie

[curious-traveller]

I wear tie not because it remsembles cross because it is the norm and inshallah never will I leave this deen and never will I cower to the idelogy of kuffur. Islam do not ask people to be defensive but inculcates wisdom in one aciton and speech.
Allahualam


I have found some intersting opinions of the Ulama regarding the tie. Their opinions are shown below.

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http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=99b12fe19aa7309bfbf32baf6301d855

Q.

Is salwar kameez is sunnat then why dont the people in the gulf region and the rest of the muslim world besides the indian subcontinest dontwear it every country has their own modest dress then why are we putting culture in to relgion and innovatiing a sunnat which is a major sin why do u wee look down upon a person who wear western clothing that is modest if person wearing salwar kameez better than a person wearing a suit and tie if salwar kameez is an islamic dress then why
is the prime minister of indian who is a kaffir not ever from the people of the book wearing it

A.


The Shalwar Kameez is not a Sunnah dress. It does have some features of a Sunnah dress, for example, it is loose and long. That covers the body and also conceals the shape of the body. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] advised us not to imitate others. It is for this reason, the western clothing, suit and tie is undesirable.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai


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http://www.islamicacademy.org/

s it allowed for Muslims to wear a Tie?
(Darul Uloom Amjadia, India, Printed in Monthly Kanzul Iman, India)

Q: Tie is commonly used among western community. Now it has become common among Muslims too. Especially during wedding ceremony Groom wears a tie with pride and some Muslim children also wear a tie in schools. Is it allowed for Muslims?
A: Hozoor Muftee-e-Azam Hind Aleh Rehma-tu-Rizwan writes that to wear a tie is definitely Haram and is a resemblance of Kafir. It is a bad deed and an open disobedience of ALLAH Tala Wal Ikram. In Christianity, tie is a remembrance of their false belief of crucifixion of Hazrat Syedna Masih Alhe Salam and forgiveness for Christians. (Fatwa Mustafvia, on page 526) Therefore it is not allowed for Muslims to wear a tie neither during a wedding ceremony nor on any occasion. Do not send your children to schools where tie is a part of uniform code. Because wearing a tie is Haram and it is a must for Muslims to refrain him/herself from Haram and also protect his/her family from Haram.
Allah Tala says *1, means "O believers!, 'save yourselves and your family members from the fire of hell". (Part 28, Soorah Tehreem, Ayah 6) Allah Ta'ala Knows the best.

[caravan of martyrs]

salaam

just stick to sunnah at all times. uni college work and leisure. i even went to a job interview in a jubbah after much thinking whether i should go in western clothes. alhamdulillah i got the job. its impossible for a muslim to be disgraced when following sunnah

[MujahidAbdullah]

If you stop a random kaffir whose wearing a suit and tie on the street and ask them what the tie symbolizes - how many do you think will say "The cross"?

So if the vast majority (99.99%) of kuffar simply wear the tie because thats the accepted norm - and not because it symbolizes the cross - is it stil a symbol of the cross?

When your in India and the Hindus are walking around with Shawar Qameeses on, are you imitating the kuffar?

When the Muslims first entered the sub-continent, they didnt bring the shawar qamees with them, they adopted the dress - the dress of the kuffar which happened to fulfill the sunnah - so if I wear a nice Manchester suit, wear the pants are not revealing, and the coat covers my hips - this is acceptable to the kuffar as "normal" and acceptable in Islam as "sunnah" - whats the problem? This is what the Muslims who first went to the sub-continent did, they went wearing Arab clothing, and lived there wearing Hindi clothing, then eventually brought that kuffar clothing back to arabia, and now the shawar qamees is accepted as Islamic clothing - so whose to say in 1000 years, when the US is a Muslim land, the suit and tie will be considered "Islamic " clothing and those people will be arguing over wheather a new style of clothing is haraam or halal.

[curious-traveller]

salaam

just stick to sunnah at all times. uni college work and leisure. i even went to a job interview in a jubbah after much thinking whether i should go in western clothes. alhamdulillah i got the job. its impossible for a muslim to be disgraced when following sunnah

Its quite to intresting to see that in the olden days the Europeans used to wear long dress which is closer to Sunnah !! For example , the frock coat of the victorian age.

http://www.groomsmenswear.co.uk/victorian%20frock%20coat.html

[curious-traveller]

When your in India and the Hindus are walking around with Shawar Qameeses on, are you imitating the kuffar?

When the Muslims first entered the sub-continent, they didnt bring the shawar qamees with them, they adopted the dress - the dress of the kuffar which happened to fulfill the sunnah - so if I wear a nice Manchester suit, wear the pants are not revealing, and the coat covers my hips - this is acceptable to the kuffar as "normal" and acceptable in Islam as "sunnah" - whats the problem? This is what the Muslims who first went to the sub-continent did, they went wearing Arab clothing, and lived there wearing Hindi clothing, then eventually brought that kuffar clothing back to arabia, and now the shawar qamees is accepted as Islamic clothing - so whose to say in 1000 years, when the US is a Muslim land, the suit and tie will be considered "Islamic " clothing and those people will be arguing over wheather a new style of clothing is haraam or halal.


The traditional dress for the Hindu men in India is Dhoti as shown in this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhoti

I have seen my Hindu teachers in the childhood to wear such clothes. The Shalwar Qamees is actually the dress worn by the Muslims . Since India was ruled by the Muslim kings for a long time , many Muslim customs have entered into the Hindu culture. The turban used by the Shikhs is also taken from the Islamic culture .