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XTREME
19-12-2010, 02:23 PM
Assalam -O-Alaikum !

I need biography of Hazrat Ubaydullah ibn al-Abbas (RA).

Thank you!

TripolySunni
19-12-2010, 10:34 PM
Assalam -O-Alaikum !

I need biography of Hazrat Ubaydullah ibn al-Abbas (RA).

Thank you!

Ubaidu'llah bin al abbas ibn abdul Mutallib al Hashimi the cousin of the Prophet PBUH and the brother of Abdullah and Katheer and al Fadl and Kuthm and Ma'abad and Tamam.

was born in the life of the Prophet PBUH... He narrated a Hadith from the Prophet PBUH in Sunan al Nasa'e which is Mursal. those who narrated from him are his son abdullah, and Ata'a and ibn Sireen and Suleiman bin Yasar and others..

He was an honourable and generous Ameer.

Muhammad bin Sa'ad mentioned him in the fifth level of companions, he said: He was one year younger than Abdullah, he heard from the Prophet PBUH and he was a merchant who died in Madinah.

al Waqidi mentioned: he remained until the government of Yazid bin muawiyah.

I say: he is the brother of abdullah, he was the Ameer of yemen during the reign of his cousin Ali RA, he led the people in Hajj...

Al faswi said: Died during the reign of Muawiyah, Khalifah and others said: died on 58 AH.


Abu Ubaydah and Abu Hassan al Ziyadi both said: he died on 87 AH.

ibn Sa'ad said: Ubaidullah was one year younger than Abdullah, he heard from the Prophet PBUH.


source: find more on Siyar A'alam al Nubalaa.
http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=417&idto=417&bk_no=60&ID=352

lots more on his wiki page:
http://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/البداية_والنهاية/الجزء_الثامن/عبيد_الله_بن_عباس_بن_عبد_المطلب

XTREME
20-12-2010, 03:38 AM
Ubaidu'llah bin al abbas ibn abdul Mutallib al Hashimi the cousin of the Prophet PBUH and the brother of Abdullah and Katheer and al Fadl and Kuthm and Ma'abad and Tamam.

was born in the life of the Prophet PBUH... He narrated a Hadith from the Prophet PBUH in Sunan al Nasa'e which is Mursal. those who narrated from him are his son abdullah, and Ata'a and ibn Sireen and Suleiman bin Yasar and others..

He was an honourable and generous Ameer.

Muhammad bin Sa'ad mentioned him in the fifth level of companions, he said: He was one year younger than Abdullah, he heard from the Prophet PBUH and he was a merchant who died in Madinah.

al Waqidi mentioned: he remained until the government of Yazid bin muawiyah.

I say: he is the brother of abdullah, he was the Ameer of yemen during the reign of his cousin Ali RA, he led the people in Hajj...

Al faswi said: Died during the reign of Muawiyah, Khalifah and others said: died on 58 AH.


Abu Ubaydah and Abu Hassan al Ziyadi both said: he died on 87 AH.

ibn Sa'ad said: Ubaidullah was one year younger than Abdullah, he heard from the Prophet PBUH.


source: find more on Siyar A'alam al Nubalaa.
http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=417&idto=417&bk_no=60&ID=352

lots more on his wiki page:
http://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/البداية_والنهاية/الجزء_الثامن/عبيد_الله_بن_عباس_بن_عبد_المطلب

Thanks for your kind effort. Is he the same ; Ubaydullah ibn al-Abbas ibn Ali ibn Abu Talib ?

TripolySunni
21-12-2010, 08:34 PM
Thanks for your kind effort. Is he the same ; Ubaydullah ibn al-Abbas ibn Ali ibn Abu Talib ?

I don't think so because his father is Al Abbas bin Ali bin Abi Talib famous as "Abu al fadl" and he did have children, we read in tareekh Dimashq for example:


تاريخ مدينة دمشق لابن عساكر (571 هـ) الجزء26 صفحة268
3102 العباس بن عبد الله بن خالد بن يزيد ابن معاوية بن أبي سفيان الأموي أخو أبي العميطر علي بن عبد الله بن خالد وأمهما نفيسة بنت عبيد الله بن العباس بن علي بن أبي طالب وأمها أم أبيها بنت عبد الله بن عباس وأمها أم محمد بنت عبيد الله بن العباس له ذكر ذكره أبو المظفر الأبيوردي وغيره

Al Abbas bin Abdullah bin Khaled bin Yazid bi Muawiyah Bin Abu Suffiyan al Umawi the brother of Abu al 'Umaytr Ali bin Abdullah bin Khaled and their mother is Nafeesah the daughter of Ubaidullah bin al Abbas bin Ali bin Abi Talib and her mother is Umm Abiha bint Abdullah bin Abbas and her mother is Umm Muhammad bint Ubaidullah bin al Abbas who was mentioned by al Muthaffar Al Abiwardi and others...

source: tareekh Madinat Dimashq for Ibn Asakir 26/268.


تاريخ الإسلام للذهبي (748 هـ) الجزء13 صفحة501
4 (أبو العميطر) هو الأمير علي بن خالد بن الخليفة يزيد بن معاوية بن أبي سفيان الأموي السفياني وأمه هي نفيسة بنت عبيد الله بن عباس ابن أمير المؤمنين علي بن أبي طالب ولذلك كان يفتخر ويقول: أنا ابن شيخي صفين أنا ابن العير والنفير وكان يسكن قرية المزة وداره بدمشق غربي الرحبة

Abu al 'Umaytr: He is Ameer Ali bin Khaled the son of caliph Yazid bin Muawiyah bin Abu Suffiyan al Umawi al Suffiyani and his mother is Nafeesah bint Ubaidullah bin Abbas bin Caliph Ali bin Abi Talib and for that he was proud and he used to say: I am the son of the two Sheikhs of Siffin...

source: Tareekh al Islam for al Thahabi 13/501.

So this guy is the grandson of Ali RA whereas the first guy is Ubaidu'llah bin al abbas ibn abdul Mutallib al Hashimi the cousin of the Prophet PBUH.

Salam,

XTREME
22-12-2010, 04:07 AM
So this guy is the grandson of Ali RA whereas the first guy is Ubaidu'llah bin al abbas ibn abdul Mutallib al Hashimi the cousin of the Prophet PBUH.

Salam,

Jazak Allah, I just need to know about the one, Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas grand son of Hazrat Ali (RA).
The name is mentioned in my Family Tree so just gathering some of the infos. of my ancestors. ;)

Saad7
05-07-2012, 09:43 AM
Jazak Allah, I just need to know about the one, Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas grand son of Hazrat Ali (RA).
The name is mentioned in my Family Tree so just gathering some of the infos. of my ancestors. ;)


AoA,

I am also the decendent of Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas grand son of Hazrat Ali (RA), I am missing Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas son name, but I have complete tree after that.. Hamza Awal is the grand son of Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas, after Hamza Awal.
Below is the my family tree I have got:

1. Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas
2. missing his son name
3. Hamza Awal
4. Jafar
5. Ali
6. Qassam
7. Teyaar
8. Hamza Sani
and keep going till my son.

XTREME
05-07-2012, 10:54 AM
AoA,

I am also the decendent of Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas grand son of Hazrat Ali (RA), I am missing Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas son name, but I have complete tree after that.. Hamza Awal is the grand son of Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas, after Hamza Awal.
Below is the my family tree I have got:

1. Ubaydullah ibn Al-Abbas
2. missing his son name
3. Hamza Awal
4. Jafar
5. Ali
6. Qassam
7. Teyaar
8. Hamza Sani
and keep going till my son.

2. Hasan

MashAllah!

9. Qasim Yelay
10. Hazrat Aon Qutb Shah
11. Muhammad Ali Chohan
12. Maanat Khan
13. Haider Khan
so & so...

Do you have the complete list ?

Saad7
09-07-2012, 06:27 PM
Thanks for giving me the name of Hasan...

Do you have the complete list ? Yes I do have complete list..
Quick question to Xtreme: Do we call ourself as Sayyed or Shah... as I can see in my family tree most of my great great great grandfathers used Shah before their name..

XTREME
10-07-2012, 11:01 AM
Thanks for giving me the name of Hasan...

Do you have the complete list ? Yes I do have complete list..
Quick question to Xtreme: Do we call ourself as Sayyed or Shah... as I can see in my family tree most of my great great great grandfathers used Shah before their name..

We can't call ourselves Syed/Shah. They are only the descendants of Bibi Fatima (RA).

In my family tree from the grand son of Hazrat Aon Qutb Shah (RA) to my Grand father had KHAN as a family name. But we call oursleves Rajput-Chauhan as Hazrat Aon Qutb Shah (RA) had converted the daughter of Hindu Raja Chouhan Rajput Kuldan and from there had 4 children.

Hazrat Aon Qutb Shah (RA) + Khadija

Najaf Ali Yahya
Fateh Ali Kuldan
Muhammad Ali Chohan
Fatima

But unfortunately, that family tree is so old like 200 ys old paper. And I am unable to read the names. But could you please tell me where could I get the new one, if possible ?

Saad7
14-07-2012, 10:15 AM
Hi

Below is the complete family tree what I have inherited.

Hazart Ali (RA)
Hazart Abbas (RA)
Abdulullah Madni
Al-Hasan
Hamza Awal
Jaffar
Ali
Qassim
Tayar
Hamza Sanni
Yaqli Mashoor Baqassim
Qutab Shah Awan
Muzumal Ali Gulkan
Shah Zaman
Hafiz Dawd
Shah Abdul Qadir (Maroof Qadri)
Shah Masood
Shah Zaheer-ud-din
Shah Khalil Al-Rehman
Shah Saif Al-Rehman
Shah Abdul Sitar
Hafiz Shah Ibrahim
Shah Guhlam Ali
Shah Saeed Ahmad
Shah Siraj-ud-din
Muhib-ul-Haq
Shah Abdullah
Shah Ahmad
Shah Mohammad
Shah Hamza
Shah Abdul
Mohammad Sadiq
Guhlam Qadir
Ghulam Distegir
Ghulam Khoz
Ghulam Mohammad
Mian Shabbir Mohammad
Imam Bukish
Mian Mohammad Zaman
Molivi Fazal Ahmad
Qazi Mohammd Mazhir Hussain

Hope this help...

Thanks

Saad

XTREME
15-07-2012, 05:48 PM
Hi

Below is the complete family tree what I have inherited.

Hazart Ali (RA)
Hazart Abbas (RA)
Abdulullah Madni
Al-Hasan
Hamza Awal
Jaffar
Ali
Qassim
Tayar
Hamza Sanni
Yaqli Mashoor Baqassim
Qutab Shah Awan
Muzumal Ali Gulkan
Shah Zaman
Hafiz Dawd
Shah Abdul Qadir (Maroof Qadri)
Shah Masood
Shah Zaheer-ud-din
Shah Khalil Al-Rehman
Shah Saif Al-Rehman
Shah Abdul Sitar
Hafiz Shah Ibrahim
Shah Guhlam Ali
Shah Saeed Ahmad
Shah Siraj-ud-din
Muhib-ul-Haq
Shah Abdullah
Shah Ahmad
Shah Mohammad
Shah Hamza
Shah Abdul
Mohammad Sadiq
Guhlam Qadir
Ghulam Distegir
Ghulam Khoz
Ghulam Mohammad
Mian Shabbir Mohammad
Imam Bukish
Mian Mohammad Zaman
Molivi Fazal Ahmad
Qazi Mohammd Mazhir Hussain

Hope this help...

Thanks

Saad

Thanx but this won't help me :(

Qutb Shah (RA) had 4 wives.

Muzammal Ali is from Zeenab and Muhammad Ali is from Khadija.
My cousin got a new one from Shajra office in Lahore. I will ask him, InshAllah! :)

JazakAllah!