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ibn Mikael
15-01-2011, 03:59 PM
:salam:

Secularists from the Iraqi semi-autonomous Kurdish region are pushing for a government ban on Friday religious sermons, thereby spurring an ideological rift with practicing Muslims there, an online news agency reported on Friday.

Intellectuals, and feminists egged on Kurdistan’s government to ban Friday sermons after an Imam of Majidawa Mosque in Arbil, Farman Kharabaiy, accused a number of Kurdish feminists of blasphemy during his sermon, eKurd.net said.

The imam also started distributing pamphlets “A Lost Truth” pointing the finger of accusation at feminists by saying that they use women’s rights issue as a “business to get rich”.

Iraqi Kurdish women’s rights activism has pushed for gender equality in their region, and the issue was in the spotlight as a hot topic of discussing in recent weeks in the Kurdish parliament.

“The main concern here in Kurdistan is that religious leaders think that they must be leaders of the whole society,” said Marwan Naqshabani, a political expert.

The Kurdish parliament is currently discussing a law on which the government will only authorize and broadcast three Friday sermons, one from each of the Kurdistan region’s major cities of Arbil, Sualimaniya, and Duhok.

“Ninety percent of the people here are Muslims. Those who are gathering signatures and petitioning the government to make this law should consider its acceptance by the majority of the people in the region,” said Salim Koyi from the Islamic Movement of Kurdistan.

“Religious leaders talk about the failure of the political leadership and the absence of government. That’s why even the ruling parties are silent, when religious leaders are attacked by intellectuals,” he added.
Baghdad bans alcohol

The ban of alcohol and nightclubs in Baghdad has pushed dozens of dance halls and clubs to move up north in the past months.

The crackdown against alcohol in the Iraqi capital started to happen in November when Iraqi officials ordered the closing of clubs that served booze, and forbade alcohol sales at stores.

Baghdad in the 1970s and 1980s was renowned for being the capital of Middle East has witnessed its nightlife, its musicians, dancers and impresarios to migrate north.

Theater and music classes were also previously banned in Baghdad’s art institutes, only after a change in the education ministerial post due to Iraq’s Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s formation of new government after months-long of political impasse.

The new education minister who ordered the classes to be back is from the secular Aliraqiya List headed by Iyad Allawi.

Difference between Baghdad and Sulaimaniyah is that those religious beliefs don't dictate society's rules for everyone, a spokesman for the Kurdish Ministry of Religious Affairs, Meriwan Naqshabandi, told AP.


http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/01/14/133450.html

DefendingIslam
15-01-2011, 06:27 PM
^

This is an issue all over the Muslim-majority world, where there are people thinking that Islam is constrained to praying one's prayers in the Masjid and then doing whatever one wants outside of it. A few sermons are a good place to start but it will take an overhaul of the entire society for real change to take place.

Kashmir_85
15-01-2011, 06:38 PM
No wonder Saddam wanted these lot dead,

maneatinglizard
16-01-2011, 12:03 AM
:salam:

What makes them intellectuals?

Does calling oneself "intellectual" make it so? Or does one actually require intelligence for the claim to be valid?

Because it appears to me that these people aren't intelligent at all.

Abu Hamza Deccani
16-01-2011, 06:08 AM
salam,
Secularists are the gravest threat to the Islamic world today and the problem is that they are powerful and have penetrated the governments and armies of Muslim lands. And the rotten education systems of the Muslim countries only produces more secularists every year.

London786
16-01-2011, 09:17 AM
very true. See the whole education system is tuned to produce such people. The media and many other factors play a big role. The situation is pretty bleak make dua. Parents play with fire by sending their children to such schools and to such teachers. In the Arab world many of these people come under the guise of teaching english etc and then make subtle hints about polygamy etc. They turn these children against islam. I have personally witnessed this myself. Some teachers at my school would try to make us turn against religion. ie. you are not doing well in school because you probably spend too much time in the masjid :lol: and other such nonsense.

DefendingIslam
16-01-2011, 09:44 AM
very true. See the whole education system is tuned to produce such people. The media and many other factors play a big role. The situation is pretty bleak make dua. Parents play with fire by sending their children to such schools and to such teachers. In the Arab world many of these people come under the guise of teaching english etc and then make subtle hints about polygamy etc. They turn these children against islam. I have personally witnessed this myself. Some teachers at my school would try to make us turn against religion. ie. you are not doing well in school because you probably spend too much time in the masjid :lol: and other such nonsense.

The parents should be the ones not sending their children to these schools when they are young. The schools indoctrinate them long before puberty, and by the time they are responsible for their deeds they are almost on the edge of disaster regarding their faiths. As everyone knows, the child will not differentiate in his mind between actual truths like the addition and multiplication tables, and propaganda such as "Our country is the shining light unto the world".

For them both of these things are at the same level of truth and it is very hard to undo this later in life, since to undo the aura of the second statement being absolutely true one would have to study what is the Islamic stance on nation-states and on the ideologies of democracy, secularism, systems of government, etc. something which even most Muslim adults do not know anything about, let alone a prepubescent child attending school.

ahmad12
16-01-2011, 09:48 AM
:salam:

Homeschooling is the way forward, regardless of whether you live in a Muslim or non Muslim country

:jazak:

Spooned
16-01-2011, 11:11 AM
The aim is to turn the whole world into One Secular Order replacing religion in preparation for the dajjal.It has been shown clearly in the US Dollar Bill.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2jea2zd.png

And if you guys think that Iraq war was just about oil than think again because a Greater Israel has already been established without us even noticing it.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2nitjlj.gif

Kashmir_85
16-01-2011, 01:01 PM
The aim is to turn the whole world into One Secular Order replacing religion in preparation for the dajjal.It has been shown clearly in the US Dollar Bill.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2jea2zd.png

And if you guys think that Iraq war was just about oil than think again because a Greater Israel has already been established without us even noticing it.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2nitjlj.gif

Youve been watching too much opf that Arrivals on youtube. I
nnit bro, the freemasons and the illuminati are taking over lol

maneatinglizard
16-01-2011, 09:42 PM
:salam:

The Star of David was originally used as a symbol of Muslims.

bugmenot
16-01-2011, 09:49 PM
:ws:

nowadays 'intellectual' = 'murtad'.

maneatinglizard
16-01-2011, 10:07 PM
:ws:

nowadays 'intellectual' = 'murtad'.

:salam:

:subh: this is true, but about as intuitive as saying up = down.

sunni-from-iraq
02-09-2011, 03:18 AM
No wonder Saddam wanted these lot dead,i feel bad for saddam killing theme though but they are all rebilous but if you look at kurdish history they are not from northern iraq they migrated and settled there so the land isnt supposd to be theres anyway

Hafiz Gee
02-09-2011, 07:23 AM
Salam

br kashmir don't stereotype abt a race or ethnicity. if i can remember correctly you were banned for doing that.


Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir_85 View Post

No wonder Saddam wanted these lot dead,

TripolySunni
02-09-2011, 12:02 PM
I hate feminists

janaveronikazahra
02-09-2011, 12:13 PM
I hate feminists

salam alikum,

islam is very feministic religion I would wish they know it.

Kashmir_85
02-09-2011, 02:18 PM
Salam

br kashmir don't stereotype abt a race or ethnicity. if i can remember correctly you were banned for doing that.

No I was banned for speaking the truth, and for speaking out against something or various acts I had seen with my own eyes from one community against another. Nowadays if you do that you are banned from this forum,

TripolySunni
02-09-2011, 05:56 PM
salam alikum,

islam is very feministic religion I would wish they know it.

ٍالسلام عليكم

Islam gives everybody their rights... Old ppl, young ppl, Wives and Husbands, Sisters and brothers, even animals.

Starting_anew
02-09-2011, 06:03 PM
:salam:

The Star of David was originally used as a symbol of Muslims.

:salam:
This is VERY important for every Muslim to know and say. There have been Muslim Armies and Countries, especially in the Anatolia region which incorporate the Star of 'Da'ud' (as). Let's remember Da'ud (as) as our prophet. He is a Muslim. And if I remember correctly, It is a condition of faith to believe in all of our Prophets. It is only in these times we have forgotten our own heritage.
We can and should use the Star if we wish, it is our symbol.
:ws:

Starting_anew
02-09-2011, 06:08 PM
No wonder Saddam wanted these lot dead,

:salam:

Don't say things like that. One might almost think you consider such things acceptable.
Alhumdullilah my masjid has an incredibly strong Kurdish community. They are great muslims and a blessing to have in my area.

:ws:

TripolySunni
02-09-2011, 06:26 PM
:salam:
This is VERY important for every Muslim to know and say. There have been Muslim Armies and Countries, especially in the Anatolia region which incorporate the Star of 'Da'ud' (as). Let's remember Da'ud (as) as our prophet. He is a Muslim. And if I remember correctly, It is a condition of faith to believe in all of our Prophets. It is only in these times we have forgotten our own heritage.
We can and should use the Star if we wish, it is our symbol.
:ws:

Flag of Barbarossa (Red beard) the Ottoman Muslim admiral.
http://flagspot.net/misc/tr~barb.jpg