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Rena

30-07-2005, 02:58 PM

I know you have to be properly covered when praying salat or reading the Quran, but say I wish to pray on the tasbeeh when I have some down time between classes, while I'm just sitting at the library, or read a surah, like Al-Nas, when I'm just lounging aroundbefore i go to sleep, is it permissable to do so without a hijab on?

sahih-baba

30-07-2005, 03:30 PM

salam,

you can make dhikr of allah at any time and place, covered or uncovered, except when using the toilet - and even then you can still remember allah without moving your lips!

Arya

30-07-2005, 03:40 PM

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amina_

05-08-2005, 06:44 AM

Salaam 3likom Rena,

I have read your question and I found one answer referring to the book "Islamic Fatawa regarding women" (publishers and distributors: Darussalam).

Question Number 73 of that book refers to a similar issue.
However, the final conclusion is, that women in general have to wear hijab while praying (not only while praying of course). But, the situation of properly covering may be broken down in some cases.
One of those cases is, that the woman is not wearing hijab due to circumstances forcing her to be in that state ( for example situations where women are not allowed to wear hijab in public, like pupils and students in France or female Muslim teachers in Germany). In that case, the woman can pray in the situation she is in, that means uncovered. The proof is brought from Shaikh ibn Baz and he is referring to surat al-baqara ( the cow) ajat 286 and surat al-taghabun ajat 16:

"لا يكلف الله نفسا الا و سعها"
" Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope" (al-baqara 286)

"فاتقوا الله ما استطعتم"
"So keep your duty to Allah (and fear him) as much as you can" (al-taghabun 16)

The woman s prayer will then be valid and there will be no sin upon her.

And Allah (sub7ana wa ta3ala) knows better.

Abu Talaal

05-08-2005, 09:11 AM

^^^^that book is for salafis

if you follow a madhab it is not appropriate for you to take fatawa from salafi scholars

Silver Sparrow

09-08-2005, 10:27 PM

And Allah (sub7ana wa ta3ala) knows better.
Just a suggestion: can you please not subsitute numbers for letters? It's not clever, it just looks stupid. No offence.

Silver Sparrow

10-08-2005, 09:36 PM

yes and they use a 7 for a ha... ummm
http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/images/ha.png 7 ... umm no i cant see it
http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/images/ayn.png 3 ... errr no !! lol
im sure maniac muslim wrote something about it.. like it looks like your cats jumped onto your keyboard LOLLLLLLLL

sahih-baba

10-08-2005, 10:04 PM

salam

the 7 actually does resemble the arabic letter. it looks like this at the end of words in indopak copies of the quran.

as for 3 - it's just a reverse 'ayn - come on!

the arabic alphabet is very flexible, hence manipulated into weird styles in calligraphy.

point being made is that when a normal qwerty keyboard is used, 3 and 7 come in very handy for writing arabic.
since we non-arabs are limited to islamic vocab, we can recognise the difference between the h in muhammed and the h in huda.

but how would you tell the difference between hamza(7amza) the name and hamza the letter?

btw-you still haven't corrected your avatar! it still reads lillah instead of allah!

ashley

21-08-2005, 02:06 PM

Salaams.

I am making the transition to Islam. Am hoping to wear hijab in a few days. But it is just that I would like to take it up more slowly.

Wasalaam,
Ashley

Silver Sparrow

08-09-2005, 03:15 PM

As salamu alaikum sister ashley. Its best with hijab to just jump straight in, as the saying goes. Shaytan will probably try to make you change your mind, so the longer you delay it the harder it'll be. Just stick with it, inshallah soon you will feel exposed without it :)

the 7 actually does resemble the arabic letter. it looks like this at the end of words in indopak copies of the quran.

as for 3 - it's just a reverse 'ayn - come on!

the arabic alphabet is very flexible, hence manipulated into weird styles in calligraphy.

point being made is that when a normal qwerty keyboard is used, 3 and 7 come in very handy for writing arabic.
since we non-arabs are limited to islamic vocab, we can recognise the difference between
the h in muhammed and the h in huda.

ayn in reverse! if were gonna start writing in mirror image, then lets go all the way! :p

umm, the h can be written like so Muhammad... see? looks much better, not like a cat running on your keyboard :D :D

yeah but it looks silly! Wouldnt it look daft if 1 st4rt3d spr1nkl1ng num8ers 1n my p05t5?! LOL. i stil think it looks silly anyway :p roman alphabet or arabic alphabet, its not too hard to choose one or the other :p i can refrain from adding gujji letters to my posts hey? :D lolllllllll funny funny

btw-you still haven't corrected your avatar! it still reads lillah instead of allah!
yes i have what are you seeing? http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/downloads/images/avatars/kalimah-red.gif

terennum

13-09-2005, 03:35 PM

Salaam
Dear sisters...
Please read this commentary of Quran about hijab and covering. It has been written by Wonder of the Age whose name is Said Nursi.
http://www.ayetulkubra.com/rnkdiller/eng/english_flash.htm
Wassalam

sahih-baba

13-09-2005, 07:35 PM

yeah but it looks silly! Wouldnt it look daft if 1 st4rt3d spr1nkl1ng num8ers 1n my p05t5?! LOL. i stil think it looks silly anyway :p roman alphabet or arabic alphabet, its not too hard to choose one or the other: http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/downloads/images/avatars/kalimah-red.gif

salam my dear sister in islam and sister in fiqh :cheesygri

look at what you're saying :lol:

i would advise you to follow your own advise! :D

....either roman or arabic - not both!

Silver Sparrow

13-09-2005, 09:35 PM

sahih-baba

14-09-2005, 08:58 PM

oh ha ha ha :p cos Allahs name IS arabic :p i wrote the WHOLE word in arabic, not like i wrote 'Allah' half in letters and half numbers!!! :p :D

Look at this drole de roleplay:

Sister: Brother, I would like to refer you to verse http://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/images/ayn.pnghttp://www.al-morrin.co.uk/islam/images/ha.png of Surah Baqarah, you see the bit where Allah teaches Adam -

Brother: verse ayn ha!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sister: Yes...

Brother: What you on about?

Sister: Yeah DUH didnt anyone tell you, that english people sometimes use the letters in place of numbers... gosh!! dont you know anything? it makes it easier for english-speakers to recognise the numbers you know. so i mean verse 37... honestly

Brother: You're crazy man!! Get away from me!!!!

Pedants....

:lol: 54L4M 4G41N MY 515T3R 1N 15L4M :cheesygri (but probably not in iman and ihsan :cheesygri )

obviously this is getting further and further away from the hijab thread as you are getting further and further away from reason :lol:

u have a normal qwerty or european qwertz and u wanna spell arabic without changing this and that and then looking for which key to punch to get h with a dot etc. 7,3 and 2 are excellent ways to quickly punch 7a, 3yn and hamza.

....just like in english we can use numerals too:

w8 4me 2day but not 2moro

Silver Sparrow

14-09-2005, 09:03 PM

uh yeah if you say so...

excuse me did u just say i dont have iman!?!?!?

all im saying is, it looks dumb! and yet you wanna turn this into a debate. People are gonna look at this and think malikis are a bunch of crazies! As salamu alaikum from your sister who has no iman (according to you) X(

sahih-baba

14-09-2005, 10:31 PM

not at all my sister in islam (fiqh), i didn't say such a thing. i meant perhaps u r not my sister in iman and ihsan, because most likely you excel me in these 2...sorry two

abdushakur

14-09-2005, 11:22 PM

is this a jokey thread

mishor

15-09-2005, 09:09 AM

That was a nice read. Thank You!!! :cheesygri

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15-09-2005, 09:17 AM

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