Adaab of Debating

[Strive4Allah]

We claim to be muslims...right...welll
*A muslim guards his tongue against speaking ill of others. The Quran says: O you who believe, avoid suspicion.Some suspicion is sin. Do not spy.Do not backbite one another. Would any of u like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Most guess works are useless and should be avoided. Inquiring too curioisly into the affairs of others is bad too.We should keep away from things that do not concern us..

**We all know how bad it is to speak il of others. We are asked not to hurt ppls feelings when they are present.It applies on internet too..We claim to be muslims..Do we live upto it? A good/true muslim does not speak ill of others...Nor does he hurt another muslim by his tongue/body.We should not talk about others who do wrong,unless we have a strong reason.Talking too much is bad...Which includes posting too much *looks at self*..Allah's messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam never spoke unnecessarily...WHAT HE SAID WAS ALWAYS TO THE POINT*...and ENOUGH TO MAKE HIS MEANING CLEAR**...We sould not interrupt unnecessarily some body who is talking to us...which includes ona too...We go on talking,never allowing others to complete what they r saying...This is a very bad habit....sadaqta sadiq....

***We should speak/put our word in only when necessary...other wise keep silent..There is however no harm in advising a friend/another member to correct their mistakes...But we should say it nicely and in a a way that the opp person doesnt feel hurt/offendid or embarrassed infront of everybody.When other brothers and sisters ask us about our religion or madhab i.e who we follow we should feel happy to tell them everything we believe and follow...We may even give them good books/links so they can find out for themselves...

****Modesty and faith r twins..
Faith is the greatest gift of Allah.
The prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam said ''modesty and faith are companions.When one is removed,the other is also gone.
Modesty is a part of faith. IF YOU HAVE NO SHAME,DO WHAT YOU LIKE.The best amongst us is the one with the best character.
Be gentle and avoid being harsh.mODESTY IS A BAROMETER OF A PERSON'S CHARACTER.a BAROMETER SHOWS AIR pressure,modesty shows faith.It keeps a person away from sins.Allah has given us a tongue,fingures...our whole body...a brain to think...We should always be careful when reading something/selecting friends/talking to someone.We should keep away from bad ppl and things.They spoil our character and if character is spoilt,everything is spoilt...
We should keep away from ppl who use bad kanguage bacause the users of bad language fall in the sight of Allah and ppl...


******Using slangI know alot of people have difficulty reading and understanding slang...We should avoid using slang...I mentioned above about the prphet sallallahu alaihi wasallam how he spoke to the point and enuf to make his point clear....
We should make sure everybody understands what we say...like using arabic,urdu or gujrati,punjabi...when using it we should also translate it into english...

*******We should stay on-topic and to the point and be as clear as possible when talking/posting...If we do not and then ppl misunderstand us,that is our own fault...

[Mossy]

Some advice sis:

1) Relax, chill and enjoy the elderberries. Sometimes people will take time to reply to your posts as they only visit sunniforum for certain time periods
2) Try to think before you write anything - think about exactly what you want to say and how you want to convey this message. Never write without pausing to think.
3) Take writing on forums as practice for good writing technique - write to your fellow brothers and sisters as you would to someone important to you - structure it well in nice paragraphs and try to ensure good spelling. It shows care on your part and helps cultivate good habits. There's no rush, s'all good (see point 1) - adab in any form of interaction is good, so it's nice to take a step back and tailor our interaction even on forums as best possible.
4) Feel free to use the edit button to change your posts - it helps keep everything in one place rather than coming across as a random stream of conciousness.
5) Always consider the reasons why you are posting - what are the benefits to you? What are the benefits to the reader? I always think this is an interesting exercise..

Quality will always win out over quantity - it is up to you what you post and how you post it as long as it is within the rules of the community. I am somewhat worried by the seemingly constant warnings and references to the "flood" of comments. If they are good and constructive comments, great. If they aren't, oh well. If you post huge numbers to purposely annoy us, eh.. If you post because you feel like you have something to say, fair enough. Posting for the sake of posting seems somewhat useless to me, but I'll never judge anyone on their quantity of posting unless it is blatantly and purposely designed to annoy and irritate (which is against the rules).

I will provide my response to the questions you asked:


s is right that I am being treated as someone special which is totally unfair? (name change)

To be unfair, someone has to be harmed by the action. I'm not sure exactly what happened in this instance, but if someone was treated unfairly (ie not within the rules) as a result of your username change, this would appear to be the case.


Is it right that I am taking advantage and u r letting me do what i want on SF?

Right and wrong on Sunniforum are judged with reference to the rules of Sunniforum. If you are going against these, then you are taking advantage as far as I can see - otherwise, who are we to regulate what you do? All rules were discussed via consultation with other members of the shura and insh'Allah anyone working within these will be ok.


Is it the fact that i knw 5 of you mods off SF THAT you arent saying anything to me?

Anything about what?


Am I in the bad habit of judging ppl? ill answer that myself...wallahi i do not and inshallah willnever judge anybody..what i say comes out of our ulamas mouths...

Everyone judges other people, it's human nature. If you do not feel qualified to judge, just don't say anything, simple enough. If you're not sure as to the judgement of the ulema on another, hold your tongue too - who knows, you could be committing ifk..


I am always posting non-sense? mean to say our ulama speak non-sense

You are not the mouthpiece of the ulema nor a parrot - some of your views are clearly your own. You may take in the views of the ulema and process these, but eh, don't we all? As for whether they are nonsense.. That's a purely subjective thing, I think it's mostly fine..

Anyway, you take care ma'am: relax, chill out and have a nice think about the pros and cons of everything you do and say. 'Tis hard, but we all should insh'Allah.

Post if you want to post, don't post if you don't want to post - don't put any restrictions on yourself unless you feel it has either a) become an addiction (which must always be combated), or b) posting is of no value. Just like speaking. Kinda.

[Raeesa]

Hmmmm the orignal post with the adaab of debating... nice post mashallah! I tottally agree with u especially in these times when theres alreayd so many divisions. I was having this conversation with a work at collegue who has very different views from me, and its interesting but nice. No one sits and says yr wrong i'm right, but u listen and respect each others views and beliefs...

Khair, anyways as for the rest of the topic...

i gotta agree with bro mossy... take it easy inshallah :) yr mashallah sooooo enthusiastic about yr deen and it shows! Inshallah with time i think u'll go v far...

Errr for now coppa buddy just go to the police terror conference :p lol

Hmmm... lemme do an answer to the questions as well inshallah..


s is right that I am being treated as someone special which is totally unfair? (name change)

..yr being treated specially? dang, no fair i want special treatment too! lol kidding...
i think everyone here is treated in a great way alhamdulilah... i havent seen any special treatment towards u...
but as bro mossy mentioned, it would b unfair if for eg someone else wasnt given the same privaleges u have been given...


Is it right that I am taking advantage and u r letting me do what i want on SF?
...err do wat u want on SF... lol break a rule and the mods editing away will show that isnt happennin lol


Is it the fact that i knw 5 of you mods off SF THAT you arent saying anything to me?

hmm... sis chill inshallah.. if there was anything to say then i;m sure it would b said.. trust me sis, the mods are frendly and all but theyre a scary bunch too lol khair alhamdulilah. seriously though, maybe they havent said anything because they dont think there is a serious reason TO say anything yet...


Am I in the bad habit of judging ppl?
neva seen u judge anyone before...


I am always posting non-sense? mean to say our ulama speak non-sense
thee content yr posting is fine...

my advice sis is to trust and b confident in yrself..
mashallah respect the person u r the person who is posting...
we all post summin and have second doubts about it, u think mayb u havent posted in the correct way mayb it will b misunderstood...
and so if u feel that way then go back and edit it... ppl do it all the time! its cool its fine.. and definitly a reassuring thing to have...

some of the posts that u have joined, are ones where everyone has diff opinions and ideas where nooooo opinion or view is technically wrong... and so theres bound to be disagreements with each other. This does NOT mean, that ppl hate the person theyre disagreein with nor does it mean that they are complainin about that person.
Its because we are all different that we have such a great board.. we must respect each others ideas...

lastly, mentioned already the slang.. until a little while ago (errr yesterday) i was unaware y u were posting in slang.. so errr i was like dang u make one good coppa the way u cant understand coppa's most of the time anyways (roll eyes) but khair, its all good just errr simplify the slang down a little bit, i;m allfor slang and short hand just sumtimes u post the most beneficial of things and if ppl spend so long configuring wat your saying they miss out on the message behind it which means they lost out A LOT

actually i shud follow the last peiece of advice.. my typos is terrible
khair we shud both work on it together my identical triplet lol mashallah

Hmmm... lastly r u leaving bcuz the mods havent told u off yet? cuz errr i thought u were leaving cuz of maddressah? i;m jsut errr confused

oh and one more thin...

Why is it that Someone (othr than a mod had to tell me)...
err tell u wat?
wat bro mossy said? err he is a moderator actually a moderateor..

[Raeesa]

Why is it that Someone (othr than a mod had to tell me)...

also.. wat another person may have a problem with u doesnt necessarily mean the mods have the same problems/concerns...

hope yr feelin betta sis... and seriously dont leave bcuz of this, wat am i gonna do wen i;m bored at work rite? :p lol

[Sajeda]

Raeesa she is not leaving the forum... She is going to busy... that's all... Insha'Allah she will explain to you...

Masha'Allah and Jazak'Allahu Khairan Katheera to Br. Mossy and Sr. Raeesa for their kind words...

Strive4Allah sis i told you all i had to say so not quite sure what to say here... Remember us in your duas and please forgive me sis.

Wassalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu

[Raeesa]

hmmm the way i see it, someone had some sorta problem with u
whereas the mods have no problem with u watsoeva..

so, sort it out with this person inshallah sis
and trust us, if the mods need to tell u summin they WILL inshallah...
and if they dont, then that doesnt necessarily mean theyre nice ppl but just that they're fine and cool with u around...

as for getting caught by the coppa lol wat have u been upto missy?
lol

[Strive4Allah]

Mind!!!
Last line sis raeesa..Caught and stopped has a difference lmho...

[Raeesa]

lol caught stopped (rolls eyes)
i mean was a simple would u like us to mark yr mobile or yr under arrest, u cannoty say anythin blah de blah de blah

and r u comin ova on sunday?